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At what age did you buy your first home ?

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  • X xiecsuk

    Good heavens, man. That is a fact that we, as men, have to learn very early in life. YOUR WIFE HAS TO MAKE ALL THE DECISIONS THAT AFFECT YOU BOTH, otherwise your marriage won't last long. I've been married for 53 years now and I haven't made an important decision in all that time. My wife even chooses what clothes I wear when we go out. It saves such a lot of arguments that way.

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    jgakenhe
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    Thank you. Yes, I have learned, the hard way! I won't make that mistake again.

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      Here is the thing. I live in land down under called Australia and property prices here are 12 to 15 times your average wages before tax. I am 32 and still renting and no hope in hell I can save 20% deposit to get loan even if I live off noodles for few years ( or may be I can if I only live off noodles ). There are many reasons for property prices so high here but I am just questioning what it takes to buy a first home ? How long did it takes you to buy your first home ? Edit Thank you for your responses.

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      Bought first house at 35. Second house at 38. Now 58 and that house is paid for. With taxes, insurance, and maintenance payments never go away, but it's nice to not have a mortgage payment.

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      • V virang_21

        Here is the thing. I live in land down under called Australia and property prices here are 12 to 15 times your average wages before tax. I am 32 and still renting and no hope in hell I can save 20% deposit to get loan even if I live off noodles for few years ( or may be I can if I only live off noodles ). There are many reasons for property prices so high here but I am just questioning what it takes to buy a first home ? How long did it takes you to buy your first home ? Edit Thank you for your responses.

        Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.

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        Mark H2
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        25 and the wife to be was 19, in the islands just across from the land down under. A small box on an undeveloped section for $64k. 1986 and interest rates were 20%. Most of our furniture was borrowed or cast-offs from family and friends. Life was exceedingly minimalistic for a year or two while I worked massive amounts of overtime and pumped it all into repayments. A few years later (while living/working in Melbourne and renting house) prices started to slump. Eventually sold, probably broke even. But after moving back to NZ, we've ended up (15 years ago) with a large old farmhouse on 2 acres we got for a shade over $300k, 10km from town (and 75km from work, so that's a fair bit of commuting each day). Value has seriously increased and am having to constantly tell the bank that no, I'm not really interested in buying more property - although a holiday home in France or Italy is on the wife's (same one) radar. There's no point looking at stuff you haven't a hope in hell of gathering a deposit for. Look further out even if you end up with a serious commute. Make a plan, figure out a budget for saving and stick to it. Nothing comes on a plate unless you inherit it.

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        • V virang_21

          Here is the thing. I live in land down under called Australia and property prices here are 12 to 15 times your average wages before tax. I am 32 and still renting and no hope in hell I can save 20% deposit to get loan even if I live off noodles for few years ( or may be I can if I only live off noodles ). There are many reasons for property prices so high here but I am just questioning what it takes to buy a first home ? How long did it takes you to buy your first home ? Edit Thank you for your responses.

          Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.

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          Ygnaiih
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          I was 25 and got a mortgage on a house the cost $17,500. that was around 44 years ago. Now that house is going for $100,000 US dollars. I'm looking at retirement now and a condo in Florida at around $70k. The state where I am working is a frozen hell.

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          • V virang_21

            Here is the thing. I live in land down under called Australia and property prices here are 12 to 15 times your average wages before tax. I am 32 and still renting and no hope in hell I can save 20% deposit to get loan even if I live off noodles for few years ( or may be I can if I only live off noodles ). There are many reasons for property prices so high here but I am just questioning what it takes to buy a first home ? How long did it takes you to buy your first home ? Edit Thank you for your responses.

            Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.

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            Tom Deketelaere
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            I was 25 when I bought my current apartment. But I got very lucky, the place had been on the market a long time (so price went down) and was a dump. But had the right size (2 bedrooms). And I got a very cheap loan. I did spend 2.5 years renovating it together with my father but all worth it in the end.

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            • V virang_21

              Michael Martin wrote:

              Where in Oz are you?

              Sydney

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              virang_21 wrote:

              Sydney

              I live in the North Western suburbs, Mount Druitt. I'm in the CBD working Thursdays and Fridays the next 3 weeks if you want to catch up for a coffee.

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              • V virang_21

                Here is the thing. I live in land down under called Australia and property prices here are 12 to 15 times your average wages before tax. I am 32 and still renting and no hope in hell I can save 20% deposit to get loan even if I live off noodles for few years ( or may be I can if I only live off noodles ). There are many reasons for property prices so high here but I am just questioning what it takes to buy a first home ? How long did it takes you to buy your first home ? Edit Thank you for your responses.

                Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.

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                PSU Steve
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                I was 30 when I bought my first house. I needed the tax break from the mortgage interest and was in the military so the housing allowance I received easily covered the monthly mortgage. I also got a VA loan so I needed just a tiny down payment. Got married six years later and the wife and I bought a much bigger house a year later. We kept my original house and rent it out for nearly twice the monthly mortgage. We've since purchased a third house which we rent to her parents.

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                • V virang_21

                  Here is the thing. I live in land down under called Australia and property prices here are 12 to 15 times your average wages before tax. I am 32 and still renting and no hope in hell I can save 20% deposit to get loan even if I live off noodles for few years ( or may be I can if I only live off noodles ). There are many reasons for property prices so high here but I am just questioning what it takes to buy a first home ? How long did it takes you to buy your first home ? Edit Thank you for your responses.

                  Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.

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                  loctrice
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                  I was 28 - but I got the place from a guy I worked with and it needed work so he let it go at a good price. We just did the paperwork through a lawyer and left the banks out of it. I have a fixed rate loan on it and pay him directly. So, that means I didn't have a downpayment to make.

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                  • V virang_21

                    Here is the thing. I live in land down under called Australia and property prices here are 12 to 15 times your average wages before tax. I am 32 and still renting and no hope in hell I can save 20% deposit to get loan even if I live off noodles for few years ( or may be I can if I only live off noodles ). There are many reasons for property prices so high here but I am just questioning what it takes to buy a first home ? How long did it takes you to buy your first home ? Edit Thank you for your responses.

                    Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.

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                    curtisc89
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                    I got mine at 24, I was lucky enough in the US we have a First Time Home Buyers loan which essentially trades the down payment for a bunch of smaller fees including mandatory inspections that must pass for the loan to approve, that totaled for me to about 1/5 of what a 20% down payment would be.

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                    • V virang_21

                      Here is the thing. I live in land down under called Australia and property prices here are 12 to 15 times your average wages before tax. I am 32 and still renting and no hope in hell I can save 20% deposit to get loan even if I live off noodles for few years ( or may be I can if I only live off noodles ). There are many reasons for property prices so high here but I am just questioning what it takes to buy a first home ? How long did it takes you to buy your first home ? Edit Thank you for your responses.

                      Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.

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                      dannomanno
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                      Good question, intriguing answers. Just as important as how much you earn is how much you spend. I worked since high school as much as possible and have always been a big saver, staying with my parents until about 28. At that point I could move out and buy myself a property. I paid off the mortgage aggressively (in less than 10 years) upon realizing bank interest was (and still is) near nothing I had little incentive to keep saving. I'd like a second/investment property but prices in my area (USA, Washington DC) are very high so instead I use my earnings to benefit my many siblings and their families. Life is good, and software development is a fine career.

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                      • J jgakenhe

                        I'm in that situation now. Neighbors always throwing trash in my yard or rocks at my siding when I'm not around.

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                        im sure that counts as some criminal behaviour of lotting and property damage in which police can be involved?

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                        • V virang_21

                          Here is the thing. I live in land down under called Australia and property prices here are 12 to 15 times your average wages before tax. I am 32 and still renting and no hope in hell I can save 20% deposit to get loan even if I live off noodles for few years ( or may be I can if I only live off noodles ). There are many reasons for property prices so high here but I am just questioning what it takes to buy a first home ? How long did it takes you to buy your first home ? Edit Thank you for your responses.

                          Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.

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                          agolddog
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                          28. I assume you're in IT and make a better-than-average wage. Don't necessarily buy all the house you can, buy the house you need. My first house was a 50-year-old, 800-square-foot little place in a blue-collar neighborhood. I was able to pay ahead to gain equity and still have money left for other things. After a few years, you can move up if you desire. Another piece of advice is to have at least $5k (USD) extra laying about. Things just come up--whether it's painting before you move in, buying appliances, whatever. If you end up not using that, great, but it's nice to have just in case. It is nice to have that part of your finances at a (relatively) stable cost. As others have pointed out though, there are risks involved, both financial (something breaks, it's on you to fix) or mental (bad neighbors, etc).

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                            im sure that counts as some criminal behaviour of lotting and property damage in which police can be involved?

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                            I've been taking pictures.

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                            • V virang_21

                              Here is the thing. I live in land down under called Australia and property prices here are 12 to 15 times your average wages before tax. I am 32 and still renting and no hope in hell I can save 20% deposit to get loan even if I live off noodles for few years ( or may be I can if I only live off noodles ). There are many reasons for property prices so high here but I am just questioning what it takes to buy a first home ? How long did it takes you to buy your first home ? Edit Thank you for your responses.

                              Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.

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                              Early 30s. I simply looked at the price for rent and price for mortgage and went with the mortgage because it was cheaper. The Buy-to-Let thing was huge and if you weren't paying your mortgage, you were paying someone elses.

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                                I've been taking pictures.

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                                ah, uncontrolled laughter :wtf: in open space office. When only thing in my email I saw was

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                                Whos taking what pictures :omg: ?

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                                • V virang_21

                                  Here is the thing. I live in land down under called Australia and property prices here are 12 to 15 times your average wages before tax. I am 32 and still renting and no hope in hell I can save 20% deposit to get loan even if I live off noodles for few years ( or may be I can if I only live off noodles ). There are many reasons for property prices so high here but I am just questioning what it takes to buy a first home ? How long did it takes you to buy your first home ? Edit Thank you for your responses.

                                  Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.

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                                  Kirk 10389821
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                                  I was 28. Here in the states, you can put down a bit less. The key things are the Ratios of Income to payments. We have a Front end Ratio (usually the monthly payment is about 28% or less of monthly income), and the Back end Ratio (usually the monthly payment is about 35% or less of monthly income - other monthly payments). The concept is rather sound. You need Food+Shelter+Clothing(etc). Assign 1/3 of your income to each. Saving up 20%, even if it takes years is good exercise. Dave Ramsey books are great for helping to get a handle on your expenses and learning how to save. I have been to Sydney recently. Kinda shocked at the prices. Typically here, the buying of a house takes about 7 years to break even against. So if you plan to move in 3-5 years, the rule of thumb is not to do it (of course, recent explosions in real estate prices before the crash not withstanding). Honestly, a $500,000 house, with a 20% down payment = $100,000.00 down. But a 500K house implies about 5,000/month in a payment (1% is an easy guesstimate). [Keep in mind, you have PITI: Principle+Interest+Taxes+Insurance] So, 20 months to save up your down payment. And REALITY is that if you can afford the payment, you should have SOME savings already, and you should be able to save about 10% above this. If you cannot, you are buying too much house. That can get you down to 18 months. The bright side is that it usually takes MONTHS to buy your first house, and find what you are looking for. Buy a book about First Time Home Buying, and learn what to be aware of. What immediate expenses you will have, like appliances. You should have 6 months of expenses in the bank AFTER the purchase (goal). If you are a single guy, get a gal pal to look at the house with you. A friend bought a house in which the bedrooms were renovated, and the closets were removed!!! LOL. He had NO Closets in his bedrooms. He never noticed. I bought a house with no sidewalks on either side of the street. I did not even notice. Buying a New House vs. Used is probably not an issue. I can't imagine you being able to afford a new place in Australia as a first home. The place we stayed in was over 100 years old. But nice. (Although the windows were original custom made sliding wood frames with "wavy" glass) except for the new windows that faced the Opera House (Cremone Point area). The limitation in mobility is a huge issue. The people we stayed with bought the house, and 3 months later, his job relocated. He now takes the tr

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                                  • V virang_21

                                    Here is the thing. I live in land down under called Australia and property prices here are 12 to 15 times your average wages before tax. I am 32 and still renting and no hope in hell I can save 20% deposit to get loan even if I live off noodles for few years ( or may be I can if I only live off noodles ). There are many reasons for property prices so high here but I am just questioning what it takes to buy a first home ? How long did it takes you to buy your first home ? Edit Thank you for your responses.

                                    Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.

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                                    34. Paid cash. Of course in one of the smallest towns in Iowa.

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                                    • V virang_21

                                      Here is the thing. I live in land down under called Australia and property prices here are 12 to 15 times your average wages before tax. I am 32 and still renting and no hope in hell I can save 20% deposit to get loan even if I live off noodles for few years ( or may be I can if I only live off noodles ). There are many reasons for property prices so high here but I am just questioning what it takes to buy a first home ? How long did it takes you to buy your first home ? Edit Thank you for your responses.

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                                      Scraping the initial down payment together is the hardest (10% down); most need a hand from relatives. But after that, you're set... As long as you can keep interest below say 10%. Figure on PIT of about 30% of your gross. (Bought my first place in my mid-twenties; always had one since then).

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                                        Here is the thing. I live in land down under called Australia and property prices here are 12 to 15 times your average wages before tax. I am 32 and still renting and no hope in hell I can save 20% deposit to get loan even if I live off noodles for few years ( or may be I can if I only live off noodles ). There are many reasons for property prices so high here but I am just questioning what it takes to buy a first home ? How long did it takes you to buy your first home ? Edit Thank you for your responses.

                                        Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.

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                                        I was 28. My situation was different to that of an average American, but relatively typical of the software types who read this page. * My wife and I were both professionals, so our income was somewhat above the median. * We lived frugally, essentially spending one income and saving the other. * We bought our first house outside the big city of Seattle. * We made extra payments to pay off a larger part of the mortgage. * We refinanced when interest rates went down. We lived in our first house for 10 years. During this time its value doubled in nominal dollars. We bought our second home in a somewhat depressed Seattle neighborhood near the university. The sale of our old home funded half the price of the second home, and our increased income funded the payments. We lived in that second house for 12 years, eventually moving to a big house in the desirable Capitol Hill neighborhood. Again, the sale of our second house funded half the purchase price of the next house, and our income was adequate to make the payments. This was the first time that we needed both incomes to live on. This was actually a mistake, as the Great Recession plus a devastating accident cut off both our incomes. But we made it through. We had good neighbors and bad neighbors. We had maintenance costs in addition to the mortgage, like putting new roofs on two houses. We substantially remodeled the third house. Some things we learned: * When you own your home, your payments stay the same for 30 years. No surprise rent increases, no getting kicked out because the landlord wants to turn the building into a condo. No getting kicked out because the landlord sells the building to Amazon who wants to raze it and put up a 12-storey office building. Large maintenance costs can be scheduled years in advance if you need to. It's very rare to have a significant maintenance expense you have to pay right away. * The monthly mortgage payment on a house is about the same as the monthly rent on the same sized dwelling. If you rent, that money's gone, but if you buy, some of that money goes into principal, which you may eventually get back. The financial computation is a no-brainer. * You can buy nice appliances, instead of the cheap ones they put in apartments. In fact everything you do in a house you own will be nice and new and you get to use it for years. * Crappy neighbors of your hose are separated by 30 feet and a six foot fence. This air-gap is really important. Crappy neighbors in an apartment are banging on your walls or c

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                                        • J Joe Woodbury

                                          I was 30 and a big chunk of the down payment was the only stock option grant that ever paid off for me. It turned into a money pit with neighbors from hell. I sold it at 36 and swore I'd never buy a home again.

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                                          Neighbors from hell lol.I laughed a lot.

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