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Yeah, but I bet among Canadian lighthouse keepers, its pretty damned funny. They probably set around telling it to each other over and over and over....;)
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This is the transcript of an actual radio conversation between a U.S. naval ship and Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in October, 1995. Radio conversation released by the Chief of Naval Operations 10-10-95 Americans: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the North to avoid a collision. Canadians: Recommend you divert YOUR course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision. Americans: This is the captain of a U.S. Navy ship. I say again, divert YOUR course. Canadians: No. I say again, you divert YOUR course. Americans: THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER U.S.S. LINCOLN, THE SECOND LARGEST SHIP IN THE UNITED STATES' ATLANTIC FLEET. WE ARE ACCOMPANIED BY THREE DESTROYERS, THREE CRUISERS AND NUMEROUS SUPPORT VESSELS. I DEMAND THAT YOU CHANGE YOUR COURSE 15 DEGREES NORTH, THAT'S ONE FIVE DEGREES NORTH, OR COUNTER MEASURES WILL BE TAKEN TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THIS SHIP. Canadians: This is a lighthouse. Your call. -------------- "Aagh!! I'm a victim of a Random Act of Management!"
Who'd have thought that a simple post with a simple bit of humor would cause as much static as it apparently has? ;) ICE BERG, RIGHT AHEAD!!! Jamie Nordmeyer Portland, Oregon, USA
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Who'd have thought that a simple post with a simple bit of humor would cause as much static as it apparently has? ;) ICE BERG, RIGHT AHEAD!!! Jamie Nordmeyer Portland, Oregon, USA
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Stan, Since we're fanning the flame of anti-American sentiment here, would you mind re-posting your July 4th post? I got a huge kick out of that. :-D Your fellow American, Jon Sagara "Left-handed nunchakus!"
Nah, I don't even remember what I said. If it's still on the forum I suppose anyone can go find it. The thing is, I freely admit that it was bad humor, although done for the altruistic purpose of confirming the delusions of superiority harbored by the lesser nations of the planet. But, at least it was original (mostly) bad humor. I went to the time and trouble to make something up. I didn't just repeat the same lame joke thats been going around the internet since 1993.
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Who'd have thought that a simple post with a simple bit of humor would cause as much static as it apparently has? ;) ICE BERG, RIGHT AHEAD!!! Jamie Nordmeyer Portland, Oregon, USA
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Jeeze, Akbar, step away from the explosive device. We're making jokes about the joke. I KEEL YOU! I KEEL YOU ALL!! BTW, you guys hear about the Palestinian bomberr that blew himself up in front of an empty building in Jerusulem (sp) over the weekend? I guess someone convinced him it was just a test run or something. LOL
No, I heard some guy blew himself up outside a cafe. I thought it interested that even his folks seem proud of him, and funny that this example of how misguided and stupid some people are came just after a discussion that centred around the whole Allah thing. How can any intelligent person buy such crap - I'm proud my son killed himself and a few children for the glory of god ? Christian Secrets of a happy marriage #27: Never go to bed if you are mad at each other. It's more fun to stay up and fight.
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No, I heard some guy blew himself up outside a cafe. I thought it interested that even his folks seem proud of him, and funny that this example of how misguided and stupid some people are came just after a discussion that centred around the whole Allah thing. How can any intelligent person buy such crap - I'm proud my son killed himself and a few children for the glory of god ? Christian Secrets of a happy marriage #27: Never go to bed if you are mad at each other. It's more fun to stay up and fight.
If only it were that simple. I personally think both sides of that conflict are bunch of idiots, and the sad part is they are not alone (N. Ireland, Balkans, Sudan, Rwanda, ect.). But I really wonder how the rest of us in our comfortable, peaceful homes would react, if an other group of people came to our country, kicked us out, and then called the country theirs. and there we sit, several generations later still stuck in refugee camps, no future, no land to call home, while the other's, living in the land that use to be ours, live very comfortable. I bet you would fight back too, in what ever way you could. I know I would. --- Multitasking: Screwing up several things at once.
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If only it were that simple. I personally think both sides of that conflict are bunch of idiots, and the sad part is they are not alone (N. Ireland, Balkans, Sudan, Rwanda, ect.). But I really wonder how the rest of us in our comfortable, peaceful homes would react, if an other group of people came to our country, kicked us out, and then called the country theirs. and there we sit, several generations later still stuck in refugee camps, no future, no land to call home, while the other's, living in the land that use to be ours, live very comfortable. I bet you would fight back too, in what ever way you could. I know I would. --- Multitasking: Screwing up several things at once.
Actually, our country contains a bunch of people just like that, people who lived here quite happily until we came along and 'kicked them out'. I believe there's a bunch of people like that in the USA as well. The difference is in their screwed up religion - these people want their land back, sure, but it's also enshrined in their religion that you go to heaven and have a plentiful supply of young virgins if you die killing infidels. There is no cause for which I would die or desire my children to die, especially not for a patch of dirt. The problem isn't that they ave no-where, it's that they both think the same patch is holy to their religion. There is also no cause for which I would kill innocent people. I agree that it would be hard to envision how we would react under the same circumstances, and I guess if you include religious brainwashing from an early age it's possible I would do the same. But otherwise, I guarentee no matter how I would react to such a situation, it would not be by strapping a bomb to myself and consider it a glorious death if I can kill some innocent bystanders on the way. Christian Secrets of a happy marriage #27: Never go to bed if you are mad at each other. It's more fun to stay up and fight.
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If only it were that simple. I personally think both sides of that conflict are bunch of idiots, and the sad part is they are not alone (N. Ireland, Balkans, Sudan, Rwanda, ect.). But I really wonder how the rest of us in our comfortable, peaceful homes would react, if an other group of people came to our country, kicked us out, and then called the country theirs. and there we sit, several generations later still stuck in refugee camps, no future, no land to call home, while the other's, living in the land that use to be ours, live very comfortable. I bet you would fight back too, in what ever way you could. I know I would. --- Multitasking: Screwing up several things at once.
I agree, its way past time that our species outgrew such nonsense. Yet, I know I would be angry if the U.N. suddenly decided that my home should be given back to the Shawnees. Would I strap a bomb to myself and blow up a bunch of innocent Shawnees? I doubt it, but who knows? ( I do think it is over simplifying the problem to blame it on religion. I am aboust as non-religious as you can get, but I think religion gets too much blame for much of this violence. People were fighthing over Northern Ireland, for example, long before there were any religious differences. Consider how savagely the ancient city states of Greece fought each other, and they all worshipped the same gods, spoke the same language, were racially identical to each other. If you completely removed relgion from the equation, the violence would not end. People don't need an excuse to kill each other, bad habits are just hard to break.)
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If only it were that simple. I personally think both sides of that conflict are bunch of idiots, and the sad part is they are not alone (N. Ireland, Balkans, Sudan, Rwanda, ect.). But I really wonder how the rest of us in our comfortable, peaceful homes would react, if an other group of people came to our country, kicked us out, and then called the country theirs. and there we sit, several generations later still stuck in refugee camps, no future, no land to call home, while the other's, living in the land that use to be ours, live very comfortable. I bet you would fight back too, in what ever way you could. I know I would. --- Multitasking: Screwing up several things at once.
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Actually, our country contains a bunch of people just like that, people who lived here quite happily until we came along and 'kicked them out'. I believe there's a bunch of people like that in the USA as well. The difference is in their screwed up religion - these people want their land back, sure, but it's also enshrined in their religion that you go to heaven and have a plentiful supply of young virgins if you die killing infidels. There is no cause for which I would die or desire my children to die, especially not for a patch of dirt. The problem isn't that they ave no-where, it's that they both think the same patch is holy to their religion. There is also no cause for which I would kill innocent people. I agree that it would be hard to envision how we would react under the same circumstances, and I guess if you include religious brainwashing from an early age it's possible I would do the same. But otherwise, I guarentee no matter how I would react to such a situation, it would not be by strapping a bomb to myself and consider it a glorious death if I can kill some innocent bystanders on the way. Christian Secrets of a happy marriage #27: Never go to bed if you are mad at each other. It's more fun to stay up and fight.
Chris, You've got no idea what you are talking about, neither do most people in these forums. For thses people religion is not simply something they choose to practice after work. It is their life, their heritage, their history and their after life. So it should not be hard to understand that out of such a large popualation of depressed and supressed people, there are going to be a few who blow themsleves up to make a statement. In their beleifs, they are being heroes and they will enjoy and afterlife with their God. Their family of course agree. So please, before posting such harsh critism on these people and their religion, take a minuite to understand the real situation. (2b || !2b)
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Chris, You've got no idea what you are talking about, neither do most people in these forums. For thses people religion is not simply something they choose to practice after work. It is their life, their heritage, their history and their after life. So it should not be hard to understand that out of such a large popualation of depressed and supressed people, there are going to be a few who blow themsleves up to make a statement. In their beleifs, they are being heroes and they will enjoy and afterlife with their God. Their family of course agree. So please, before posting such harsh critism on these people and their religion, take a minuite to understand the real situation. (2b || !2b)
No, *you* don't get it. Yes, it is their life, their heritage. But the people who blow themselves up are not sad, frustrated people who think of it themselves - this behaviour is enshrined in their religion. They preach it ( or they should if they believe the Quran, which says it ). That is why there are so many of these people acting this way, and so few Australian Aboriginals ( none AFAIK ) doing the same - because they don't expect an eternal reward for killing children. Christian Secrets of a happy marriage #27: Never go to bed if you are mad at each other. It's more fun to stay up and fight.
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No, *you* don't get it. Yes, it is their life, their heritage. But the people who blow themselves up are not sad, frustrated people who think of it themselves - this behaviour is enshrined in their religion. They preach it ( or they should if they believe the Quran, which says it ). That is why there are so many of these people acting this way, and so few Australian Aboriginals ( none AFAIK ) doing the same - because they don't expect an eternal reward for killing children. Christian Secrets of a happy marriage #27: Never go to bed if you are mad at each other. It's more fun to stay up and fight.
Yes, you are right. It is their religion which makes them blow themselves up. But remove their religion and what have you got left? Nothing. No politics, no government, no culture, nothing. As I said, these people live for their religion, so from their perspective dying for their religion makes sense. To us it doesn't make sense, and thats the hard part for us, accepting that people are different, countries are different and religion is different from what we expect. But I agree with you, it is a sensless thing to do. These people are obviosly blinded by their religion and they cannot enjoy life the way we do. But thats the way they've lived for centuries, so really, its not that bad. Its just a way of life for them. The clever ones leave. (2b || !2b)
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Oh, you mean the superpower thats saving everyone's bacon around the world. But isn't it time for a NEW anti-American/superpower joke? Even the Canadians should be able to come up with a few more. Besides, if the U.S.S. Lincoln wanted to move a Canadian island, it would just move it. Now THAT would be funny!
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Yes, you are right. It is their religion which makes them blow themselves up. But remove their religion and what have you got left? Nothing. No politics, no government, no culture, nothing. As I said, these people live for their religion, so from their perspective dying for their religion makes sense. To us it doesn't make sense, and thats the hard part for us, accepting that people are different, countries are different and religion is different from what we expect. But I agree with you, it is a sensless thing to do. These people are obviosly blinded by their religion and they cannot enjoy life the way we do. But thats the way they've lived for centuries, so really, its not that bad. Its just a way of life for them. The clever ones leave. (2b || !2b)
Yes, you are right. It is their religion which makes them blow themselves up. But remove their religion and what have you got left? Nothing. No politics, no government, no culture, nothing. As I said, these people live for their religion, so from their perspective dying for their religion makes sense. You're saying they have no government over there ? No culture ? That's a bit racist, don't you think ? Or do you just mean all those things for them involve their religion ? To us it doesn't make sense, and thats the hard part for us, accepting that people are different, countries are different and religion is different from what we expect. I don't give a toss, I am happy for these people to do what they want - until they start killing innocent children. Then my tolerance drops sharply. But I agree with you, it is a sensless thing to do. These people are obviosly blinded by their religion and they cannot enjoy life the way we do. But thats the way they've lived for centuries, so really, its not that bad. Its just a way of life for them. The clever ones leave. Well, I wouldn't suggest the obvious conclusion - that the country is full of child killing morons, but overall I think we agree except that you're too busy trying to be tolerant to consider the rights of the people they kill. Christian Secrets of a happy marriage #27: Never go to bed if you are mad at each other. It's more fun to stay up and fight.
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Yes, you are right. It is their religion which makes them blow themselves up. But remove their religion and what have you got left? Nothing. No politics, no government, no culture, nothing. As I said, these people live for their religion, so from their perspective dying for their religion makes sense. You're saying they have no government over there ? No culture ? That's a bit racist, don't you think ? Or do you just mean all those things for them involve their religion ? To us it doesn't make sense, and thats the hard part for us, accepting that people are different, countries are different and religion is different from what we expect. I don't give a toss, I am happy for these people to do what they want - until they start killing innocent children. Then my tolerance drops sharply. But I agree with you, it is a sensless thing to do. These people are obviosly blinded by their religion and they cannot enjoy life the way we do. But thats the way they've lived for centuries, so really, its not that bad. Its just a way of life for them. The clever ones leave. Well, I wouldn't suggest the obvious conclusion - that the country is full of child killing morons, but overall I think we agree except that you're too busy trying to be tolerant to consider the rights of the people they kill. Christian Secrets of a happy marriage #27: Never go to bed if you are mad at each other. It's more fun to stay up and fight.
You're saying they have no government over there ? No culture ? That's a bit racist, don't you think ? Or do you just mean all those things for them involve their religion ? Religion IS their culture and government. Removing religion leaves them without. I don't give a toss, I am happy for these people to do what they want - until they start killing innocent children. Then my tolerance drops sharply They can kill each other and their children as far as I am concerned, why should that bother you? After all, these children will grow up to be like their parents anyway, so why do you have a problem with them being killed before they grow up? Well, I wouldn't suggest the obvious conclusion - that the country is full of child killing morons, but overall I think we agree except that you're too busy trying to be tolerant to consider the rights of the people they kill You have obviosly misunderstood me. I don't know if it is simply because of your low IQ, or maybe you have problems reading. But I will be tolerant and accept you for what you are. (2b || !2b)
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If only it were that simple. I personally think both sides of that conflict are bunch of idiots, and the sad part is they are not alone (N. Ireland, Balkans, Sudan, Rwanda, ect.). But I really wonder how the rest of us in our comfortable, peaceful homes would react, if an other group of people came to our country, kicked us out, and then called the country theirs. and there we sit, several generations later still stuck in refugee camps, no future, no land to call home, while the other's, living in the land that use to be ours, live very comfortable. I bet you would fight back too, in what ever way you could. I know I would. --- Multitasking: Screwing up several things at once.
> If only it were that simple. I personally think both sides of that conflict are bunch > of idiots I agree (and I've stated this before). > and the sad part is they are not alone (N. Ireland, Balkans, Sudan, Rwanda, ect.). Again, I agree. > But I really wonder how the rest of us in our comfortable, peaceful homes would react, > if an other group of people came to our country, kicked us out, and then called the > country theirs. and there we sit, several generations later still stuck in refugee > camps, no future, no land to call home, while the other's, living in the land that use > to be ours, live very comfortable. I bet you would fight back too, in what ever way > you could. I know I would. It's always different when it's in your own back yard, but if it was, don't even for a second think that the countries we're talking about right now would have people just like us that share the views we have right now of them. That's human nature.
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"Oh, you mean the superpower thats saving everyone's bacon around the world." Yessss, that one is very funny. Keep it up, you may become new Jerry Lewis... :cool:
Sorry, I think Jim Carrey (a Canadian, BTW) already has that job.
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You're saying they have no government over there ? No culture ? That's a bit racist, don't you think ? Or do you just mean all those things for them involve their religion ? Religion IS their culture and government. Removing religion leaves them without. I don't give a toss, I am happy for these people to do what they want - until they start killing innocent children. Then my tolerance drops sharply They can kill each other and their children as far as I am concerned, why should that bother you? After all, these children will grow up to be like their parents anyway, so why do you have a problem with them being killed before they grow up? Well, I wouldn't suggest the obvious conclusion - that the country is full of child killing morons, but overall I think we agree except that you're too busy trying to be tolerant to consider the rights of the people they kill You have obviosly misunderstood me. I don't know if it is simply because of your low IQ, or maybe you have problems reading. But I will be tolerant and accept you for what you are. (2b || !2b)
You're saying they have no government over there ? No culture ? That's a bit racist, don't you think ? Or do you just mean all those things for them involve their religion ? Religion IS their culture and government. Removing religion leaves them without. The second option I gave is correct then ? I guess this is so. I don't give a toss, I am happy for these people to do what they want - until they start killing innocent children. Then my tolerance drops sharply They can kill each other and their children as far as I am concerned, why should that bother you? After all, these children will grow up to be like their parents anyway, so why do you have a problem with them being killed before they grow up? Well, at least one child who died was an Australian citizen on holiday, but ignoring that for a moment... Every child has the ability to grow up and become more than their environment, to rise above. You said as much when you said the smart ones leave - they have to come from somewhere. It bothers me because the people dying are not necessarily the same sort of maniacs as the people doing the killing, it bothers me because it should be self evident that the death of a child is a doubly terrible thing. Well, I wouldn't suggest the obvious conclusion - that the country is full of child killing morons, but overall I think we agree except that you're too busy trying to be tolerant to consider the rights of the people they kill You have obviosly misunderstood me. I don't know if it is simply because of your low IQ, or maybe you have problems reading. But I will be tolerant and accept you for what you are. If you want to be rude you can just pucker up for all I care. Christian Secrets of a happy marriage #27: Never go to bed if you are mad at each other. It's more fun to stay up and fight.
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Yes, you are right. It is their religion which makes them blow themselves up. But remove their religion and what have you got left? Nothing. No politics, no government, no culture, nothing. As I said, these people live for their religion, so from their perspective dying for their religion makes sense. To us it doesn't make sense, and thats the hard part for us, accepting that people are different, countries are different and religion is different from what we expect. But I agree with you, it is a sensless thing to do. These people are obviosly blinded by their religion and they cannot enjoy life the way we do. But thats the way they've lived for centuries, so really, its not that bad. Its just a way of life for them. The clever ones leave. (2b || !2b)