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Musk says we are a computer simulation

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  • B BillWoodruff

    "Elon Musk has said that there is only a “one in billions” chance that we’re not living in a computer simulation. Our lives are almost certainly being conducted within an artificial world powered by AI and highly-powered computers, like in The Matrix, the Tesla and SpaceX CEO suggested at a tech conference in California:" [^]. Excellent, that means we don't need to buy a Tesla.

    «There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008

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    kalberts
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    Strongly recommended: Realtime Interrupt: James P. Hogan: 9780671578848: Amazon.com: Books[^] This story is not quite being a computer simulation, but about living in a computer simulation. Or... Is is reality? How would you find out? When you exit the simulation, how do you know that you are back to reality? I known people who have had sleeping problems after reading this novel. Admittedly, it is somewhat "creepy". But fascinating. Like all James P Hogan novels, it is very well researched, carrying a lot of real expert knowledge, with a logically consistent story. And just slightly across the border to Science Fiction: You are left with a feeling that this could be real reality in just a few years.

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    • D Daniel Pfeffer

      I just looked out my window and saw GAME OVER plastered all over the sky. I wonder what happens now?

      If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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      I play life on hard mode, permadeath on, neutral birth options. I'm aiming for one of those grim-dark endings with lots of robots and Warhammer 40K references. Doing great so far, and haven't even died once! I'm not a big fan of the pay2win mechanics though. Kinda ruins the gameplay.

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      • L ledtech3

        They just started this seaasons episodes but they are going to be on 2 times a week at the moment. I haven't heard of anything else that may happen to it.

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        yeah this is the end of the show, they are burning off the final few episodes: Person of Interest (TV series) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[^] The series was renewed for a 13-episode fifth season,[3] which was later confirmed to be the final season.[4] The season premiered on May 3, 2016, and its series finale will air on June 21, 2016.[5]

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        • B BillWoodruff

          "Elon Musk has said that there is only a “one in billions” chance that we’re not living in a computer simulation. Our lives are almost certainly being conducted within an artificial world powered by AI and highly-powered computers, like in The Matrix, the Tesla and SpaceX CEO suggested at a tech conference in California:" [^]. Excellent, that means we don't need to buy a Tesla.

          «There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008

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          User 8697789
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          He must have read this: Am I a simulation

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          • J JCarlos Abad

            Nooooooooooooooooooooo I don´t want to be a computer simulation!!!!!

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            User 8697789
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            Why Not? What difference does it make?

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              So we are not going to heaven, hell or reincarnation (or any combintion of these). We are going to be garbage collected. And what if there is a tiny bug? Will I be immortal if I somehow can prevent my destructor ever being executed? Or if I always have a few other people who keep a reference?

              The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
              This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
              "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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              User 8697789
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              and does it mean there is a god? We could also get re-used, I guess...

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                Why Not? What difference does it make?

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                JCarlos Abad
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                Sorry, my low level of English prevents me from maintaining a deep conversation, so I'll be brief: Surely no difference, a simulation does not know that it is being simulated. It is, above all, a psychological desire. I want to really exist. I want to have soul. I don't want to be a hologram, or executable code. My life should make sense, else what I'm doing here? If I'm not real, I want to kill the matrix architect.

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                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                  I give it a 999,999,999 in a billion chance that he watched The Matrix last night :D

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                  Regards, Sander

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                  Middle Manager
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                  lol. He probably watches it to psyche himself up for another day of being too cool for the rest of us

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                  • B BillWoodruff

                    "Elon Musk has said that there is only a “one in billions” chance that we’re not living in a computer simulation. Our lives are almost certainly being conducted within an artificial world powered by AI and highly-powered computers, like in The Matrix, the Tesla and SpaceX CEO suggested at a tech conference in California:" [^]. Excellent, that means we don't need to buy a Tesla.

                    «There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008

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                    maze3
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                    we are a computer simulation != high possibility we are computer simulation 0.000000001 != 0

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                    • B BillWoodruff

                      "Elon Musk has said that there is only a “one in billions” chance that we’re not living in a computer simulation. Our lives are almost certainly being conducted within an artificial world powered by AI and highly-powered computers, like in The Matrix, the Tesla and SpaceX CEO suggested at a tech conference in California:" [^]. Excellent, that means we don't need to buy a Tesla.

                      «There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008

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                      Slow Eddie
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                      Well a program bug would explain the presidential race this year.... :omg:

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                      • B BillWoodruff

                        "Elon Musk has said that there is only a “one in billions” chance that we’re not living in a computer simulation. Our lives are almost certainly being conducted within an artificial world powered by AI and highly-powered computers, like in The Matrix, the Tesla and SpaceX CEO suggested at a tech conference in California:" [^]. Excellent, that means we don't need to buy a Tesla.

                        «There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008

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                        SirMichaelJam
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                        ELON MUSK FINDS GOD One could confer that Elon is saying there is a higher power. Indeed he is saying that GOD exists and is in control of everything! MichaelJAM

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                        • B BillWoodruff

                          "Elon Musk has said that there is only a “one in billions” chance that we’re not living in a computer simulation. Our lives are almost certainly being conducted within an artificial world powered by AI and highly-powered computers, like in The Matrix, the Tesla and SpaceX CEO suggested at a tech conference in California:" [^]. Excellent, that means we don't need to buy a Tesla.

                          «There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008

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                          Lucas D Luengo
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                          Once you start learning a little bit about quantum mechanics you can't help but agree. The fact that the universe doesn't hold the position of every particle in "memory" but a probability simplification... That's exactly what I'd do to save resources if I were to program a universe. The fact that there is a speed limit (light speed) is so weird that I have to think it's done because otherwise the processing speed required would be infinite. It makes perfect sense. Oh! I almost forgot... Did you know that the universe has a "resolution"? Yup. 0,000000000000000000000000000000000001 meters is the smallest possible size for anything

                          Just a Bean, trying to ket some sleep...

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                          • B BillWoodruff

                            "Elon Musk has said that there is only a “one in billions” chance that we’re not living in a computer simulation. Our lives are almost certainly being conducted within an artificial world powered by AI and highly-powered computers, like in The Matrix, the Tesla and SpaceX CEO suggested at a tech conference in California:" [^]. Excellent, that means we don't need to buy a Tesla.

                            «There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008

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                            TheThorpeMachine
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                            I think Life is a Video Game is probably a pretty good analogy. Which is similar to what Elon is saying.

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                            • B BillWoodruff

                              "Elon Musk has said that there is only a “one in billions” chance that we’re not living in a computer simulation. Our lives are almost certainly being conducted within an artificial world powered by AI and highly-powered computers, like in The Matrix, the Tesla and SpaceX CEO suggested at a tech conference in California:" [^]. Excellent, that means we don't need to buy a Tesla.

                              «There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008

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                              David Schiffer
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                              We most certainly live in a holographic Universe and we are most certainly AI's in the making. However, that simulation does not run on any computer, it runs inside our very soul which is part of the Creator soul. That is age-old wisdom from the Zohar, 3000 years old. And as it were, the conclusion of quantum mechanics. Cool to see that Elon is starting to get it :)

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                              • B BillWoodruff

                                "Elon Musk has said that there is only a “one in billions” chance that we’re not living in a computer simulation. Our lives are almost certainly being conducted within an artificial world powered by AI and highly-powered computers, like in The Matrix, the Tesla and SpaceX CEO suggested at a tech conference in California:" [^]. Excellent, that means we don't need to buy a Tesla.

                                «There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008

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                                User 11508194
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                                Maybe it wasn't The Matrix . . . maybe he read this: Are You Living in a Simulation?[^]

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                                • B BillWoodruff

                                  "Elon Musk has said that there is only a “one in billions” chance that we’re not living in a computer simulation. Our lives are almost certainly being conducted within an artificial world powered by AI and highly-powered computers, like in The Matrix, the Tesla and SpaceX CEO suggested at a tech conference in California:" [^]. Excellent, that means we don't need to buy a Tesla.

                                  «There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008

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                                  syntotic
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                                  Yeah, I wrote a model of Physics based on that idea and it found Space curved and pi in no time. SURELY we can characterize Life in such way, but maybe that particular statement.

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                                  • R rtpHarry

                                    yeah this is the end of the show, they are burning off the final few episodes: Person of Interest (TV series) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[^] The series was renewed for a 13-episode fifth season,[3] which was later confirmed to be the final season.[4] The season premiered on May 3, 2016, and its series finale will air on June 21, 2016.[5]

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                                    ledtech3
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                                    Well bummer, I couldn't watch the last 2 seasons because the episodes were never available online , on there site, with out the new Pay thing anyway. I don't have any of the payed services that you could have watched them on and no TV antenna.

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                                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                      I wondered why there was a big red sign saying "LEVEL 2" when I reached 1,000,000 rep points!

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                                      Herbie Mountjoy
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                                      I think I'm a curly brace short of a function... I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.

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                                      • S Slow Eddie

                                        Well a program bug would explain the presidential race this year.... :omg:

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                                        Chris Ross 2
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                                        Nah! Not a bug - just a hacker having a laugh!

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                                        • B BillWoodruff

                                          "Elon Musk has said that there is only a “one in billions” chance that we’re not living in a computer simulation. Our lives are almost certainly being conducted within an artificial world powered by AI and highly-powered computers, like in The Matrix, the Tesla and SpaceX CEO suggested at a tech conference in California:" [^]. Excellent, that means we don't need to buy a Tesla.

                                          «There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008

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                                          To suggest that we must living in a computer simulation is to disregard the extra dimensionality of reality. It means only that our most advanced technologies tend toward the state of our reality. I think it would be more accurate to suggest that the knowable limits of our reality have much in common with computer simulations. A computer? Really? BIGGER! Think outside the hyper-cube :)

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