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  • M Marc Clifton

    Leandro Taset wrote:

    that actually omits the bizarre requirement of "being able to work in a fast-paced environment"?

    Funeral home? Marc

    Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny

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    Lost User
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    Is this your own personal way of answering no, or do you really mean it? Well, I'd bet they use at least some software tools for that too nowadays. I'll have to look into that industry, but I must confess it kind of gives me cold feet. Honestly, it seems like a dead end to me.

    Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
    In the worst way that could be possible!

    –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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    • L Lost User

      I just wonder: is there any job post out there in the multiverse that actually omits the bizarre requirement of "being able to work in a fast-paced environment"? Is that really and honestly regarded as a good thing? Also, is the widespread abuse of empty catchy phrases like this one that make them lose their meaning, or is it that they never had one to start with?

      Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
      In the worst way that could be possible!

      –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      It just serves to make them feel that they work in a fast-paced environment, because they don't want to admit the reality.

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        It's alright. I can relate to that, and understand it. You said it yourself: generally, it's an easy going environment. The problem is, when I read "fast-paced environment", I picture a never ending scene of people running around like crazy headless chickens in face of Armageddon. Maybe I just need therapy. Looking for anything C#/.NET, either web or desktop (even embedded). Upstate New York.

        Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
        In the worst way that could be possible!

        –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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        Lost User
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        Leandro Taset wrote:

        a never ending scene of people running around like crazy headless chickens in face of Armageddon.

        Yes, I worked there.

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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          It just serves to make them feel that they work in a fast-paced environment, because they don't want to admit the reality.

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          Nagy Vilmos
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          True dat. Fast paced == Badly organised

          veni bibi saltavi

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          • L Lost User

            I just wonder: is there any job post out there in the multiverse that actually omits the bizarre requirement of "being able to work in a fast-paced environment"? Is that really and honestly regarded as a good thing? Also, is the widespread abuse of empty catchy phrases like this one that make them lose their meaning, or is it that they never had one to start with?

            Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
            In the worst way that could be possible!

            –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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            Lost User
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            fast paced - work overtime no pay team player - no matter what mess you have to clean after someone, you will not piep self motivated - will work for food etc ect

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            • L Lost User

              I just wonder: is there any job post out there in the multiverse that actually omits the bizarre requirement of "being able to work in a fast-paced environment"? Is that really and honestly regarded as a good thing? Also, is the widespread abuse of empty catchy phrases like this one that make them lose their meaning, or is it that they never had one to start with?

              Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
              In the worst way that could be possible!

              –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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              Pete OHanlon
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              Leandro Taset wrote:

              omits the bizarre requirement of "being able to work in a fast-paced environment"

              Snail breeder.

              This space for rent

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              • N Nagy Vilmos

                True dat. Fast paced == Badly organised

                veni bibi saltavi

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                Lost User
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                Bullseye! Couldn't agree more.

                Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
                In the worst way that could be possible!

                –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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                • L Lost User

                  I just wonder: is there any job post out there in the multiverse that actually omits the bizarre requirement of "being able to work in a fast-paced environment"? Is that really and honestly regarded as a good thing? Also, is the widespread abuse of empty catchy phrases like this one that make them lose their meaning, or is it that they never had one to start with?

                  Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
                  In the worst way that could be possible!

                  –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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                  Maximilien
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                  Find a domain where there are long development cycles; not necessarily in the software itself but in the application of the software. Traditional domains ( engineering, aerospace, banking/insurances..) have long cycles. New domains ( mobile apps, games...) have small cycles.

                  I'd rather be phishing!

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                  • L Lost User

                    I just wonder: is there any job post out there in the multiverse that actually omits the bizarre requirement of "being able to work in a fast-paced environment"? Is that really and honestly regarded as a good thing? Also, is the widespread abuse of empty catchy phrases like this one that make them lose their meaning, or is it that they never had one to start with?

                    Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
                    In the worst way that could be possible!

                    –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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                    Jacquers
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                    Maybe working for a non IT company, but in their IT department writing software for them.

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                    • L Lost User

                      I just wonder: is there any job post out there in the multiverse that actually omits the bizarre requirement of "being able to work in a fast-paced environment"? Is that really and honestly regarded as a good thing? Also, is the widespread abuse of empty catchy phrases like this one that make them lose their meaning, or is it that they never had one to start with?

                      Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
                      In the worst way that could be possible!

                      –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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                      devvvy
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                      They used to call it "Multi-tasking" or "Many-tasking". Perhaps now that's going away they need something new to *inspire* developers.

                      dev

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                      • M Maximilien

                        Find a domain where there are long development cycles; not necessarily in the software itself but in the application of the software. Traditional domains ( engineering, aerospace, banking/insurances..) have long cycles. New domains ( mobile apps, games...) have small cycles.

                        I'd rather be phishing!

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                        devvvy
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                        Banking can be very different these days... ever work in front office trading environment anyone?

                        dev

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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          Leandro Taset wrote:

                          that actually omits the bizarre requirement of "being able to work in a fast-paced environment"?

                          Funeral home? Marc

                          Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny

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                          devvvy
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                          i hear funeral homes pay their people pretty well (but don't think they need developers)

                          dev

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                          • L Lost User

                            fast paced - work overtime no pay team player - no matter what mess you have to clean after someone, you will not piep self motivated - will work for food etc ect

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                            devvvy
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                            exactly

                            dev

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                            • T Tim Carmichael

                              Some environments are more fast paced that others; some require the ability to be able to react quickly. Case in point: I was up in the middle of the night with allergies - sneezing and what not. As I didn't want to disturb my wife, I went to the living room. My cell phone received a text message: a high priority ticket had been logged from work for a system - no data was being shown. Normally, tickets are medium priority unless manually elevated. So, I looked at the ticket, opened my laptop and fixed the issue. I wasn't the team member on call, but I saw the issue and decided to react. As a team, if the issue is not resolved in a timely manner, we all get hit with a performance failure. So.. this was 'fast paced', but, generally, it's an easy going environment. Having said that, if you are looking, what field/general area and what region?

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                              F ES Sitecore
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                              That's not "fast paced" it's "bad employer". If you're not on-call you shouldn't be receiving messages or having to cover for people in the middle of the night. This is exactly what the OP is getting at, employers that are stuck in the 90s and take the mick...expecting their employees to sacrifice all of their time and personal life for the company, usually unpaid.

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                              • L Lost User

                                I just wonder: is there any job post out there in the multiverse that actually omits the bizarre requirement of "being able to work in a fast-paced environment"? Is that really and honestly regarded as a good thing? Also, is the widespread abuse of empty catchy phrases like this one that make them lose their meaning, or is it that they never had one to start with?

                                Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
                                In the worst way that could be possible!

                                –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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                                Kevin Marois
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                                Leandro Taset wrote:

                                being able to work in a fast-paced environment

                                This is recruiter speak for "The customer's work environment is so screwed up that they change jobs and tasks on you so fast that you can't keep up".

                                If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                                • D devvvy

                                  Banking can be very different these days... ever work in front office trading environment anyone?

                                  dev

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                                  Maximilien
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                                  trading is not banking.

                                  I'd rather be phishing!

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                                  • F F ES Sitecore

                                    That's not "fast paced" it's "bad employer". If you're not on-call you shouldn't be receiving messages or having to cover for people in the middle of the night. This is exactly what the OP is getting at, employers that are stuck in the 90s and take the mick...expecting their employees to sacrifice all of their time and personal life for the company, usually unpaid.

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                                    Tim Carmichael
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                                    If I'm not on call, I'm not responsible for covering for other people. I CHOSE to assist a colleague... that is my choice. And fast past is always a relative term; it doesn't have to be break neck speed for all tasks.

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                                    • D devvvy

                                      Banking can be very different these days... ever work in front office trading environment anyone?

                                      dev

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                                      Maximilien
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                                      nope.

                                      I'd rather be phishing!

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        I just wonder: is there any job post out there in the multiverse that actually omits the bizarre requirement of "being able to work in a fast-paced environment"? Is that really and honestly regarded as a good thing? Also, is the widespread abuse of empty catchy phrases like this one that make them lose their meaning, or is it that they never had one to start with?

                                        Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
                                        In the worst way that could be possible!

                                        –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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                                        Joe Woodbury
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                                        My favorites are "Must be self starter" "Must work with minimal supervision" Then you get in trouble for actually doing both (and not being a team player.)

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          I just wonder: is there any job post out there in the multiverse that actually omits the bizarre requirement of "being able to work in a fast-paced environment"? Is that really and honestly regarded as a good thing? Also, is the widespread abuse of empty catchy phrases like this one that make them lose their meaning, or is it that they never had one to start with?

                                          Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
                                          In the worst way that could be possible!

                                          –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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                                          Mark_Wallace
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                                          "fast-paced" requirements are often written by people who work at a snail's pace or are cr@p at managing their time, so they think any job that requires a reasonable level of output is way too fast. Either that, or they're added by morons in HR, who took a course that told them to use phrases like that because it makes the company sound cool.

                                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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