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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    I'm just starting to work my way through the Petzold book on Xamarin Forms - and I'm on my second day, but still on "hello world" as it's been a PITA getting the Android emulator to run. So, the second "Hello World" app is a PCL solution, so I create that and get an MS error about a missing SDK. The message includes a URL to fix the problem:

    go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?prd=12514&pver=14.0&sbp=PlatformSDKMissing&plcid=0x409&o1=UAP, Version=10.0.10240.0

    Which isn't clickable...or copyable...so you have to type the whole damn thing in by hand. :mad: So, I get that right, and run the installer, and...it says to go to sdksetup.exe in

    C:\Users\PaulG\Downloads\Windows Kits\10\StandaloneSDK

    to instal it. And that's not copyable either...:mad::mad: How difficult is it to make these things selectable? Not that $%$£^%$ing difficult - I do it all the time! Tell me chaps - are your error messages selectable, copyable? Mine are...and I'm sure you do it to. So what the Elephant can.t MS do that? [edit] I just ran it, and...it says "setup is already running" and shuts down. So you can't have the message showing what to do while you do it... :doh: [/edit]

    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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    Duncan Edwards Jones
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    I thought CTRL+C on any message box copied the text to the clipboard ?

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      I'm just starting to work my way through the Petzold book on Xamarin Forms - and I'm on my second day, but still on "hello world" as it's been a PITA getting the Android emulator to run. So, the second "Hello World" app is a PCL solution, so I create that and get an MS error about a missing SDK. The message includes a URL to fix the problem:

      go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?prd=12514&pver=14.0&sbp=PlatformSDKMissing&plcid=0x409&o1=UAP, Version=10.0.10240.0

      Which isn't clickable...or copyable...so you have to type the whole damn thing in by hand. :mad: So, I get that right, and run the installer, and...it says to go to sdksetup.exe in

      C:\Users\PaulG\Downloads\Windows Kits\10\StandaloneSDK

      to instal it. And that's not copyable either...:mad::mad: How difficult is it to make these things selectable? Not that $%$£^%$ing difficult - I do it all the time! Tell me chaps - are your error messages selectable, copyable? Mine are...and I'm sure you do it to. So what the Elephant can.t MS do that? [edit] I just ran it, and...it says "setup is already running" and shuts down. So you can't have the message showing what to do while you do it... :doh: [/edit]

      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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      Mark_Wallace
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      Message boxes used to copy in their entirety if you just highlighted them and hit Ctrl+C. Doesn't that work, any more? [edit] "highlighted them" is misleading. Replace with "gave them focus".

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

        Did you forget to enable the "copyable links" option during the W10 installation? It's under Options -> More Options -> Advanced -> Super Advanced -> Esoteric -> Occult -> Copyable links. Once you enable it you get a terms of use window that basically tells you your undying soul belongs to Santa Satan Satya once you agree. There is no other way to enable this option, so you can either re-install your computer and hope they haven't removed the option with one of the 666 updates or live with links that aren't copyable :sigh:

        Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

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        Regards, Sander

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        Mark_Wallace
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        I went through all that, but the problem was that it also makes all message boxes full-screen.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        • M Mark_Wallace

          I went through all that, but the problem was that it also makes all message boxes full-screen.

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          Sander Rossel
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          Are you sure you disabled the "Full screen message boxes" option? It's right there next to the "Reliable estimated times" option :rolleyes:

          Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

          Regards, Sander

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            I'm just starting to work my way through the Petzold book on Xamarin Forms - and I'm on my second day, but still on "hello world" as it's been a PITA getting the Android emulator to run. So, the second "Hello World" app is a PCL solution, so I create that and get an MS error about a missing SDK. The message includes a URL to fix the problem:

            go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?prd=12514&pver=14.0&sbp=PlatformSDKMissing&plcid=0x409&o1=UAP, Version=10.0.10240.0

            Which isn't clickable...or copyable...so you have to type the whole damn thing in by hand. :mad: So, I get that right, and run the installer, and...it says to go to sdksetup.exe in

            C:\Users\PaulG\Downloads\Windows Kits\10\StandaloneSDK

            to instal it. And that's not copyable either...:mad::mad: How difficult is it to make these things selectable? Not that $%$£^%$ing difficult - I do it all the time! Tell me chaps - are your error messages selectable, copyable? Mine are...and I'm sure you do it to. So what the Elephant can.t MS do that? [edit] I just ran it, and...it says "setup is already running" and shuts down. So you can't have the message showing what to do while you do it... :doh: [/edit]

            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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            Super Lloyd
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            It seemed like a good idea at the time! ;P Plus, now, you have to get board approval and quality assurance testing and regression test pass for any user experience changes! :omg: :laugh:

            All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar DirectX for WinRT/C# since 2013! Taking over the world since 1371!

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            • D Duncan Edwards Jones

              I thought CTRL+C on any message box copied the text to the clipboard ?

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              ledtech3
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              I still try it on most things that are not copy pasteable

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                I'm just starting to work my way through the Petzold book on Xamarin Forms - and I'm on my second day, but still on "hello world" as it's been a PITA getting the Android emulator to run. So, the second "Hello World" app is a PCL solution, so I create that and get an MS error about a missing SDK. The message includes a URL to fix the problem:

                go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?prd=12514&pver=14.0&sbp=PlatformSDKMissing&plcid=0x409&o1=UAP, Version=10.0.10240.0

                Which isn't clickable...or copyable...so you have to type the whole damn thing in by hand. :mad: So, I get that right, and run the installer, and...it says to go to sdksetup.exe in

                C:\Users\PaulG\Downloads\Windows Kits\10\StandaloneSDK

                to instal it. And that's not copyable either...:mad::mad: How difficult is it to make these things selectable? Not that $%$£^%$ing difficult - I do it all the time! Tell me chaps - are your error messages selectable, copyable? Mine are...and I'm sure you do it to. So what the Elephant can.t MS do that? [edit] I just ran it, and...it says "setup is already running" and shuts down. So you can't have the message showing what to do while you do it... :doh: [/edit]

                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                Basildane
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                Yeah, and while we are at it, why does microsoft trap your back button on their website, so when you click "back", it just goes to a page called "continue" and puts you right back on the same page again. This has been going on for at least a decade. Another one, get an error in Windows and a box pops up saying "click here for more information on this problem". You click it and get a microsoft page saying "no information available". This has been going on for at least 15 years. And then you are stuck in the "continue" loop. It's like they are punishing you for using their products. ONLY MICROSOFT DOES THIS. They hate people. They must really hate people. There is no way this could be going on for over a decade unless it was deliberate.

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                • M Mark_Wallace

                  Message boxes used to copy in their entirety if you just highlighted them and hit Ctrl+C. Doesn't that work, any more? [edit] "highlighted them" is misleading. Replace with "gave them focus".

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  maze3
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                  Mark_Wallace wrote:

                  highlighted them and hit Ctrl+C

                  what, that's for when base type is textbox. those message boxes are of base type: text. so you need to do ctrl+shift+C. but Xamarin? oh that might be the legacy text type, so ctrl+alt+c should do it?

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                  • B Basildane

                    Yeah, and while we are at it, why does microsoft trap your back button on their website, so when you click "back", it just goes to a page called "continue" and puts you right back on the same page again. This has been going on for at least a decade. Another one, get an error in Windows and a box pops up saying "click here for more information on this problem". You click it and get a microsoft page saying "no information available". This has been going on for at least 15 years. And then you are stuck in the "continue" loop. It's like they are punishing you for using their products. ONLY MICROSOFT DOES THIS. They hate people. They must really hate people. There is no way this could be going on for over a decade unless it was deliberate.

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                    Herbie Mountjoy
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                    Hah! At least you can use your PC. I spent an embarrassing 2 hours this morning at a site demonstration waiting for an unstoppable Windows upgrade to complete. The (lost) client was not impressed. Neither was my boss and neither was I. We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      I'm just starting to work my way through the Petzold book on Xamarin Forms - and I'm on my second day, but still on "hello world" as it's been a PITA getting the Android emulator to run. So, the second "Hello World" app is a PCL solution, so I create that and get an MS error about a missing SDK. The message includes a URL to fix the problem:

                      go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?prd=12514&pver=14.0&sbp=PlatformSDKMissing&plcid=0x409&o1=UAP, Version=10.0.10240.0

                      Which isn't clickable...or copyable...so you have to type the whole damn thing in by hand. :mad: So, I get that right, and run the installer, and...it says to go to sdksetup.exe in

                      C:\Users\PaulG\Downloads\Windows Kits\10\StandaloneSDK

                      to instal it. And that's not copyable either...:mad::mad: How difficult is it to make these things selectable? Not that $%$£^%$ing difficult - I do it all the time! Tell me chaps - are your error messages selectable, copyable? Mine are...and I'm sure you do it to. So what the Elephant can.t MS do that? [edit] I just ran it, and...it says "setup is already running" and shuts down. So you can't have the message showing what to do while you do it... :doh: [/edit]

                      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                      ngoj
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                      You are a lazy ass, that's all. The title "Why does Microsoft do that?" made me to click the link... and what a mistake, nothing really about microsoft in your article. Go troll elsewhere.

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