Of cats and the laws of physics
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Could someone kindly explain to me how they got from "the box that makes a noise has something inside it" to "cats understand physics"? Cats seem to grasp the laws of physics[^] Sounds like a good way to swindle research funds.
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Could someone kindly explain to me how they got from "the box that makes a noise has something inside it" to "cats understand physics"? Cats seem to grasp the laws of physics[^] Sounds like a good way to swindle research funds.
I think what they are saying is the cat's understand that a box that rattles has something in it - so when that understanding fails they are surprised and stare longer. It's a bit of a stretch to get from that to "understanding physics" I agree, but the basic grasp of "noise == content" is established. And yes, cats do grasp some abstract concepts surprisingly well, and will experiment to get to a goal. We had one that learned to raid his treats - which took jumping from the third step onto the wine rack, jumping from there to the top of the cabinet, leaning over the side to chew through the rubber band keeping the door shut (so he couldn't raid his treats), dropping to the shelf below so he could push himself up under the doors to get inside the cupboard. Took him about a week to work out - had to be the third step, the second was too low, the fourth too far away - and so on. But once he'd got it fixed, it took him seconds each time.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Could someone kindly explain to me how they got from "the box that makes a noise has something inside it" to "cats understand physics"? Cats seem to grasp the laws of physics[^] Sounds like a good way to swindle research funds.
This comes from people who think animal are stupid. So they have to make grand theory to admit they were wrong. The gist is, the cat shake the box and can detect whether there is something lose and moving inside by how the box make noise / behave differently from a solid object. But they name it with the much more pompous name of "cats understand the law of physics" Common guys, cats are predator, of course they know all about hiding!
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This comes from people who think animal are stupid. So they have to make grand theory to admit they were wrong. The gist is, the cat shake the box and can detect whether there is something lose and moving inside by how the box make noise / behave differently from a solid object. But they name it with the much more pompous name of "cats understand the law of physics" Common guys, cats are predator, of course they know all about hiding!
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Super Lloyd wrote:
cats are predator, of course they know all about hiding!
Ours doesn't! It's normally fairly obvious where he is hiding, because he forgets to cover his tail... :sigh: Mind you, it doesn't seem to hurt him as a hunter, he brings home dead-or-alive prey pretty much every day.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Super Lloyd wrote:
cats are predator, of course they know all about hiding!
Ours doesn't! It's normally fairly obvious where he is hiding, because he forgets to cover his tail... :sigh: Mind you, it doesn't seem to hurt him as a hunter, he brings home dead-or-alive prey pretty much every day.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
Haha, just like kids! ;P
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Haha, just like kids! ;P
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Your kids bring home rats, mice, moles, and dead birds? :omg:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Your kids bring home rats, mice, moles, and dead birds? :omg:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
Err... I was referring the visible tail when they hide... Young kids usually only hide their face when they are hiding! ;P Or were you taunting me?! haha! :laugh:
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Err... I was referring the visible tail when they hide... Young kids usually only hide their face when they are hiding! ;P Or were you taunting me?! haha! :laugh:
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It's the taunting one! ;)
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Your kids bring home rats, mice, moles, and dead birds? :omg:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
OriginalGriff wrote:
Your kids bring home rats, mice, moles, and dead birds?
Yes it's called supper. I'll get my hat
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I think what they are saying is the cat's understand that a box that rattles has something in it - so when that understanding fails they are surprised and stare longer. It's a bit of a stretch to get from that to "understanding physics" I agree, but the basic grasp of "noise == content" is established. And yes, cats do grasp some abstract concepts surprisingly well, and will experiment to get to a goal. We had one that learned to raid his treats - which took jumping from the third step onto the wine rack, jumping from there to the top of the cabinet, leaning over the side to chew through the rubber band keeping the door shut (so he couldn't raid his treats), dropping to the shelf below so he could push himself up under the doors to get inside the cupboard. Took him about a week to work out - had to be the third step, the second was too low, the fourth too far away - and so on. But once he'd got it fixed, it took him seconds each time.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
OriginalGriff wrote:
the basic grasp of "noise == content" is establishe
I'd have said it's the basic grasp of "noise == something to chase". Hunting instinct != understanding of Physics.
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Could someone kindly explain to me how they got from "the box that makes a noise has something inside it" to "cats understand physics"? Cats seem to grasp the laws of physics[^] Sounds like a good way to swindle research funds.
aaryan42 wrote:
Sounds like a good way to swindle research funds.
More likely just, "Science reporter doesn't really understand the paper, writes headline to catch attention." You can never trust headline writers. Or blurb writers. They're all shifty. :-O
TTFN - Kent
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Your kids bring home rats, mice, moles, and dead birds?
Yes it's called supper. I'll get my hat
Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.
Corporal Agarn wrote:
I'll get my hat
Why? Are you going to pull a rabbit out of it? :laugh:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Corporal Agarn wrote:
I'll get my hat
Why? Are you going to pull a rabbit out of it? :laugh:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
Na, just too hot for a coat. :) Besides I need a hat to keep the glare down. :-O
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Your kids bring home rats, mice, moles, and dead birds?
Yes it's called supper. I'll get my hat
Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.
Corporal Agarn wrote:
Yes it's called supper.
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aaryan42 wrote:
Sounds like a good way to swindle research funds.
More likely just, "Science reporter doesn't really understand the paper, writes headline to catch attention." You can never trust headline writers. Or blurb writers. They're all shifty. :-O
TTFN - Kent
Kent Sharkey wrote:
You can never trust headline writers.
+5 although that's not entirely fair. Most newspapers are trustworthy sources, staffed by dedicated professionals The problem is the 83 yotta Interweb "news" sites that are staffed with semi-literate cretins who don't know what the word "journalism" means, let alone "Physics", and probably "cat".
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Could someone kindly explain to me how they got from "the box that makes a noise has something inside it" to "cats understand physics"? Cats seem to grasp the laws of physics[^] Sounds like a good way to swindle research funds.
Cats understand how to manipulate people in a way that we give them shelter and food; let them sit on us; let them in, then out, then in, then out again; let them wreck our furniture and won't even get mad... Ancient Egypt worshiped them. And now they have taken over the Internet. Cats understand way more than just physics, they might be aliens with an intellect vastly superior than our own! You think the Illuminati or lizards rule the world? Hell no, it's cats!
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Regards, Sander
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Could someone kindly explain to me how they got from "the box that makes a noise has something inside it" to "cats understand physics"? Cats seem to grasp the laws of physics[^] Sounds like a good way to swindle research funds.
Cats are alien beings that telepathically send their observations back to their home world, Meow. When they stare at things longer, they're actually sending longer messages, along the lines of "humans keep proving what idiots they are." Marc
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Cats understand how to manipulate people in a way that we give them shelter and food; let them sit on us; let them in, then out, then in, then out again; let them wreck our furniture and won't even get mad... Ancient Egypt worshiped them. And now they have taken over the Internet. Cats understand way more than just physics, they might be aliens with an intellect vastly superior than our own! You think the Illuminati or lizards rule the world? Hell no, it's cats!
Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
You make a convincing argument there. Does tinfoil protect against cats?
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You make a convincing argument there. Does tinfoil protect against cats?
Seems like it does[^] :laugh:
Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
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Seems like it does[^] :laugh:
Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
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