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    "I think that we believe there are chemical weapons in Syria, for example," Bush said. Does he want to start another war? Also, is the US claiming that they, the Russians, the Chinese etc. don't have chemical weapons, that having chemical weapons became a big issue? AFAIK, whatever their reputation be, Syria has not done a military offensive on a neighbouring country like Iraq did. Anyway, the statement sounds ominous. Thomas My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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      "I think that we believe there are chemical weapons in Syria, for example," Bush said. Does he want to start another war? Also, is the US claiming that they, the Russians, the Chinese etc. don't have chemical weapons, that having chemical weapons became a big issue? AFAIK, whatever their reputation be, Syria has not done a military offensive on a neighbouring country like Iraq did. Anyway, the statement sounds ominous. Thomas My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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      Seems to be a bit of buzz around US going into Syria next. It would be a bad mistake at this point. I don't think it will happen, but I don't rule out trying to put some heat on them for being an ally to Saddam. But of course at some point weren't we all partners with him? BW "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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        "I think that we believe there are chemical weapons in Syria, for example," Bush said. Does he want to start another war? Also, is the US claiming that they, the Russians, the Chinese etc. don't have chemical weapons, that having chemical weapons became a big issue? AFAIK, whatever their reputation be, Syria has not done a military offensive on a neighbouring country like Iraq did. Anyway, the statement sounds ominous. Thomas My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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        Thomas George wrote: Does he want to start another war? why not? the troops are already there. Thomas George wrote: Syria has not done a military offensive on a neighbouring country like Iraq did. maybe not like Iraq did, but Syria is a big supporter of Hezbollah. Israel would probably love it if the US did a bit of regime change in Syria. -c


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          Thomas George wrote: Does he want to start another war? why not? the troops are already there. Thomas George wrote: Syria has not done a military offensive on a neighbouring country like Iraq did. maybe not like Iraq did, but Syria is a big supporter of Hezbollah. Israel would probably love it if the US did a bit of regime change in Syria. -c


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          Chris Losinger wrote: why not? the troops are already there. Why not Iran instead? The country is now encircled, no more problem of "second front" with an uncooperative Turkey. Chris Losinger wrote: Israel would probably love it if the US did a bit of regime change in Syria. I can already hear the Arab countries claiming the US are an israeli puppet.


          But I did emphasie techies who I would imagine are brighter than the average freedom fry eating rednecks - Chris Austin

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            Chris Losinger wrote: why not? the troops are already there. Why not Iran instead? The country is now encircled, no more problem of "second front" with an uncooperative Turkey. Chris Losinger wrote: Israel would probably love it if the US did a bit of regime change in Syria. I can already hear the Arab countries claiming the US are an israeli puppet.


            But I did emphasie techies who I would imagine are brighter than the average freedom fry eating rednecks - Chris Austin

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            KaЯl wrote: The country is now encircled, no more problem of "second front" with an uncooperative Turkey. This one will fall from internal pressures. KaЯl wrote: I can already hear the Arab countries claiming the US are an israeli puppet. Why did you think it would change? The US is the only country I am aware of that isn't dedicated to the obliteration of Israel and the Jewish inhabitants thereof. Mike

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              KaЯl wrote: The country is now encircled, no more problem of "second front" with an uncooperative Turkey. This one will fall from internal pressures. KaЯl wrote: I can already hear the Arab countries claiming the US are an israeli puppet. Why did you think it would change? The US is the only country I am aware of that isn't dedicated to the obliteration of Israel and the Jewish inhabitants thereof. Mike

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              Mike Gaskey wrote: The US is the only country I am aware of that isn't dedicated to the obliteration of Israel and the Jewish inhabitants thereof. Wouldn't you have a small tendency to fall sometimes into extremist arguments? :suss: Did Sweden or Switzerland ask for the wipe out of Israel :wtf: ?


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                "I think that we believe there are chemical weapons in Syria, for example," Bush said. Does he want to start another war? Also, is the US claiming that they, the Russians, the Chinese etc. don't have chemical weapons, that having chemical weapons became a big issue? AFAIK, whatever their reputation be, Syria has not done a military offensive on a neighbouring country like Iraq did. Anyway, the statement sounds ominous. Thomas My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                Thomas George wrote: AFAIK, whatever their reputation be, Syria has not done a military offensive on a neighbouring country like Iraq did. 1948,1967,1973 - Israel. 1970 - Attempt to overthrow King Hussein of Jordan together with the PLO. 1982 - Lebanon, Syria occupies it even today. Same as Kuwait, but Lebanon doesn't have oil (only drugs), so no one cares Almost war with Turkey few years, until they expelled Kurdish rebels. Damascus hosts every terror group on earth - Shia, Sunni, African, etc...

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                  KaЯl wrote: The country is now encircled, no more problem of "second front" with an uncooperative Turkey. This one will fall from internal pressures. KaЯl wrote: I can already hear the Arab countries claiming the US are an israeli puppet. Why did you think it would change? The US is the only country I am aware of that isn't dedicated to the obliteration of Israel and the Jewish inhabitants thereof. Mike

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                  Iran will indeed change. But, even if they get rid of the Islamic laws and achieve a progressive government, it is hard to imagine Iranians getting too friendly with the US. It will take quite some time for the wounds to heal. You seriously think that no country in Europe or Asia wants Israel to exist. I understand the Middle-East Islamic countries; the rest, IMO, does not care. In other countries, you hear a little bit more of Palestinian sentiment as well. and none of them except US, Britain and France have directly taken part in any war involving Israel. Thomas My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                    Chris Losinger wrote: why not? the troops are already there. Why not Iran instead? The country is now encircled, no more problem of "second front" with an uncooperative Turkey. Chris Losinger wrote: Israel would probably love it if the US did a bit of regime change in Syria. I can already hear the Arab countries claiming the US are an israeli puppet.


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                    KaЯl wrote: Why not Iran instead? The country is now encircled, no more problem of "second front" with an uncooperative Turkey. Look in a map. Iran is huge. You need million soldiers to take it. Any way, it'll collapse from inside.

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                      Mike Gaskey wrote: The US is the only country I am aware of that isn't dedicated to the obliteration of Israel and the Jewish inhabitants thereof. Wouldn't you have a small tendency to fall sometimes into extremist arguments? :suss: Did Sweden or Switzerland ask for the wipe out of Israel :wtf: ?


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                      KaЯl wrote: Wouldn't you have a small tendency to fall sometimes into extremist arguments? Ohhh you noticed too?! So maybe we share the same paranoia :cool:


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                        Iran will indeed change. But, even if they get rid of the Islamic laws and achieve a progressive government, it is hard to imagine Iranians getting too friendly with the US. It will take quite some time for the wounds to heal. You seriously think that no country in Europe or Asia wants Israel to exist. I understand the Middle-East Islamic countries; the rest, IMO, does not care. In other countries, you hear a little bit more of Palestinian sentiment as well. and none of them except US, Britain and France have directly taken part in any war involving Israel. Thomas My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                        Thomas George wrote: Iran will indeed change. But, even if they get rid of the Islamic laws and achieve a progressive government, it is hard to imagine Iranians getting too friendly with the US. It will take quite some time for the wounds to heal. Recent poll showed the opposite, Iranians favor us: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2294509.stm[^] http://www.payvand.com/news/02/sep/1080.html[^] http://www.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/meast/09/12/iran.usa.reut/[^]

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                          KaЯl wrote: Wouldn't you have a small tendency to fall sometimes into extremist arguments? Ohhh you noticed too?! So maybe we share the same paranoia :cool:


                          "Der Geist des Kriegers ist erwacht / Ich hab die Macht" StS
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                          peterchen wrote: o maybe we share the same paranoia I already suspect some will say it's a common feature of leftists-liberals-reds-communists :rolleyes:


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                            Chris Losinger wrote: why not? the troops are already there. Why not Iran instead? The country is now encircled, no more problem of "second front" with an uncooperative Turkey. Chris Losinger wrote: Israel would probably love it if the US did a bit of regime change in Syria. I can already hear the Arab countries claiming the US are an israeli puppet.


                            But I did emphasie techies who I would imagine are brighter than the average freedom fry eating rednecks - Chris Austin

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                            KaЯl wrote: Why not Iran instead? Syria is smaller. -c


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                              KaЯl wrote: Why not Iran instead? The country is now encircled, no more problem of "second front" with an uncooperative Turkey. Look in a map. Iran is huge. You need million soldiers to take it. Any way, it'll collapse from inside.

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                              Felix Gartsman wrote: Any way, it'll collapse from inside. Why are you so sure it will collapse? :confused:


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                                peterchen wrote: o maybe we share the same paranoia I already suspect some will say it's a common feature of leftists-liberals-reds-communists :rolleyes:


                                But I did emphasie techies who I would imagine are brighter than the average freedom fry eating rednecks - Chris Austin

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                                :-D The people prone to say it make me kind of proud :rolleyes:


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                                  KaЯl wrote: Why not Iran instead? Syria is smaller. -c


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                                  I thought size doesn't matter :rolleyes:


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                                    :-D The people prone to say it make me kind of proud :rolleyes:


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                                    :laugh::cool:


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                                      "I think that we believe there are chemical weapons in Syria, for example," Bush said. Does he want to start another war? Also, is the US claiming that they, the Russians, the Chinese etc. don't have chemical weapons, that having chemical weapons became a big issue? AFAIK, whatever their reputation be, Syria has not done a military offensive on a neighbouring country like Iraq did. Anyway, the statement sounds ominous. Thomas My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                                      I think the US administration is just trying to apply a little "diplomacy" while the memory of Iraq's defeat is fresh in everybody's mind. It's like a parent who smacks child #1 on the butt for doing something bad and then "reminds" child #2 to be good. If GWB does a thing (militarily) in Syria he'll lose any and all support here and get soundly "flushed" out of office at the next election. Mike Mullikin :beer:

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                                        I think the US administration is just trying to apply a little "diplomacy" while the memory of Iraq's defeat is fresh in everybody's mind. It's like a parent who smacks child #1 on the butt for doing something bad and then "reminds" child #2 to be good. If GWB does a thing (militarily) in Syria he'll lose any and all support here and get soundly "flushed" out of office at the next election. Mike Mullikin :beer:

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                                        Mike Mullikin wrote: If GWB does a thing (militarily) in Syria he'll lose any and all support here and get soundly "flushed" out of office at the next election Why wouldn't he have the same support than when invading Iraq? :confused:


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                                          I thought size doesn't matter :rolleyes:


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                                          we could probably take out Syria in a week. there wouldn't even be time for the news networks to update their graphics. it would be perfect. Iran would take too long, and i don't think the US population is up for yet another war. (of course i'm probably wrong about that) -c


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