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    Single Step Debugger
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    I'm reading the news about this fucking cyborg Oscar Pistorius, who shot dead his girlfriend in the bathroom, and has been sentenced for only 6 years in prison. The word is, he will be out in tree. There is something very wrong with the current way we enforce lows. The bias is obvious. What about some kind of AI-judge system? That is incorruptible. Sounds to me like a good idea.

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      I'm reading the news about this fucking cyborg Oscar Pistorius, who shot dead his girlfriend in the bathroom, and has been sentenced for only 6 years in prison. The word is, he will be out in tree. There is something very wrong with the current way we enforce lows. The bias is obvious. What about some kind of AI-judge system? That is incorruptible. Sounds to me like a good idea.

      There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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      Bassam Abdul Baki
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      How about Judge Dredd?

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        I'm reading the news about this fucking cyborg Oscar Pistorius, who shot dead his girlfriend in the bathroom, and has been sentenced for only 6 years in prison. The word is, he will be out in tree. There is something very wrong with the current way we enforce lows. The bias is obvious. What about some kind of AI-judge system? That is incorruptible. Sounds to me like a good idea.

        There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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        jeron1
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        Deyan Georgiev wrote:

        he will be out in tree.

        You from Chicago? :-D I imagine an AI judge would 'learn' bias, just like everyone else.

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          How about Judge Dredd?

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          Kyle Moyer
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          I AM THE LAW! The writing and acting were super sub-par, but man if it isn't still an enjoyable movie... :D The original. The more recent remake/rehash was garbage.

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            I'm reading the news about this fucking cyborg Oscar Pistorius, who shot dead his girlfriend in the bathroom, and has been sentenced for only 6 years in prison. The word is, he will be out in tree. There is something very wrong with the current way we enforce lows. The bias is obvious. What about some kind of AI-judge system? That is incorruptible. Sounds to me like a good idea.

            There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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            Who's we? Is USA in any way involved in the decisions of the South African Court? This is the decision of a black female judge against a white male defendant. It's hard to argue bias in his favour. Her reasons for the shorter than normal sentence were clearly laid out. The prosecution is free to appeal if they can show as a matter of law that her interpretation that though it was his intention to kill it was not his intention to kill a specific victim is incorrect or faulty (though as they've now failed to convince two judges that this was a case of malice aforethought I doubt they'll do so). In US law this would be at most 2nd degree or even conceivably voluntary manslaughter for which the minimum sentence would in fact be lower than South Africa's. Knee-jerk reactions aside it seems as if this is an example of a justice system operating to a surprisingly high standard.

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              I AM THE LAW! The writing and acting were super sub-par, but man if it isn't still an enjoyable movie... :D The original. The more recent remake/rehash was garbage.

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              OriginalGriff
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              The original comic version (2000AD) was definitive. Judge Dredd 2000AD[^]

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                Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                he will be out in tree.

                You from Chicago? :-D I imagine an AI judge would 'learn' bias, just like everyone else.

                "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                Plus...how would you know that the developer didn't add a "back door"? Total immunity to prosecution would be quite a reward... :laugh:

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                  I'm reading the news about this fucking cyborg Oscar Pistorius, who shot dead his girlfriend in the bathroom, and has been sentenced for only 6 years in prison. The word is, he will be out in tree. There is something very wrong with the current way we enforce lows. The bias is obvious. What about some kind of AI-judge system? That is incorruptible. Sounds to me like a good idea.

                  There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                  How to implement IDeathSentence? Plz send codes its urgent.

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                    How to implement IDeathSentence? Plz send codes its urgent.

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                    OriginalGriff
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                    Just implement the HideInTheToiletToGetAwayFromGunWavingBoyfriend method...

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                      I'm reading the news about this fucking cyborg Oscar Pistorius, who shot dead his girlfriend in the bathroom, and has been sentenced for only 6 years in prison. The word is, he will be out in tree. There is something very wrong with the current way we enforce lows. The bias is obvious. What about some kind of AI-judge system? That is incorruptible. Sounds to me like a good idea.

                      There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                      Thinking that a human judgement is so easy that it can be assigned to an AI system is somewhat childish.

                      You always obtain more by being rather polite and armed than polite only.

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                        I'm reading the news about this fucking cyborg Oscar Pistorius, who shot dead his girlfriend in the bathroom, and has been sentenced for only 6 years in prison. The word is, he will be out in tree. There is something very wrong with the current way we enforce lows. The bias is obvious. What about some kind of AI-judge system? That is incorruptible. Sounds to me like a good idea.

                        There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                        My thoughts? They were more lenient because in the mind of every person he's the handicapped one. Yes, he lacks only legs - yet he's still considered as a sub-human, one with handicaps of which we see only one, the most evident, but who knows how many others does he have and does not know? There has been leniency because in the common minds he's not entirely reliable, he wasn't from the very beginning, he's faulty. To the other part of the population, he's a stubborn cyborg (I borrowed the term from the OP, i like it) - unnatural and forcing his way into the "natural" order, a faulty human trying to compete with normal, natural and functional ones. Therefore he has much more than one problem - that he's different, lesser than the others. So he must be either extremely self-centered or not being able to understand such a basic and visible difference... meaning he's as unreliable as a "retard". Many people also tend to be accustomed to the thought that since these people have a hard life they are naturally inclined to hate, self-hate and bouts of verbal and physical violence - more so because they're wrong. DISCLAIMER: I used a language that many of you will consider abusive - and it IS! I tried to explain the mindset of the people I'm talking about from their own, often unspoken due to social stigma, point of view. I'm not saying that most or any of us poeple that are discussing here thinks as much, and I'm not "holding the truth". It's what I think and it may be wrong, of course. Keep it in mind before bashing or reporting, please.

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                          Who's we? Is USA in any way involved in the decisions of the South African Court? This is the decision of a black female judge against a white male defendant. It's hard to argue bias in his favour. Her reasons for the shorter than normal sentence were clearly laid out. The prosecution is free to appeal if they can show as a matter of law that her interpretation that though it was his intention to kill it was not his intention to kill a specific victim is incorrect or faulty (though as they've now failed to convince two judges that this was a case of malice aforethought I doubt they'll do so). In US law this would be at most 2nd degree or even conceivably voluntary manslaughter for which the minimum sentence would in fact be lower than South Africa's. Knee-jerk reactions aside it seems as if this is an example of a justice system operating to a surprisingly high standard.

                          I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                          9082365 wrote:

                          Knee-jerk

                          pffffft!!

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                            I'm reading the news about this fucking cyborg Oscar Pistorius, who shot dead his girlfriend in the bathroom, and has been sentenced for only 6 years in prison. The word is, he will be out in tree. There is something very wrong with the current way we enforce lows. The bias is obvious. What about some kind of AI-judge system? That is incorruptible. Sounds to me like a good idea.

                            There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                            AlphaDeltaTheta
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                            We will have a judgement on robot right abuse

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                              Thinking that a human judgement is so easy that it can be assigned to an AI system is somewhat childish.

                              You always obtain more by being rather polite and armed than polite only.

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                              Lost User
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                              That would defeat the point anyway, the goal was to do better, so explicitly *not* emulating human judgement. I still have to put this whole idea on the Big Pile of Impossible Ideas, but for other reasons.

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                                Plus...how would you know that the developer didn't add a "back door"? Total immunity to prosecution would be quite a reward... :laugh:

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                                jeron1
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                                I can't imagine a developer who wouldn't add such a thing! Hell, that would be my first 'feature'.

                                "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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