Core Meltdown
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Thats why I am looking into a liqui-cool system.
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Ray Cassick wrote: liqui-cool system. It would be nice, but I would feel a little uneasy. Too much can go wrong like a leak or pump-failure etc etc -BestSnowman
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Daniel Turini wrote: The joy of not running an AMD processor is beyond words. My Intel chips are running even warmer. :) -BestSnowman
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Daniel Turini wrote: The joy of not running an AMD processor is beyond words. My Intel chips are running even warmer. :) -BestSnowman
My old Athlon 900 ran at 57. My P4 2.5 runs at 37 (and is half as loud).
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Ray Cassick wrote: liqui-cool system. It would be nice, but I would feel a little uneasy. Too much can go wrong like a leak or pump-failure etc etc -BestSnowman
The idea of water being inside my computer would make me uneasy too.
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- Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
"But a fresh install - it's like having clean sheets"
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The idea of water being inside my computer would make me uneasy too.
"If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
- Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
"But a fresh install - it's like having clean sheets"
- C. Maunder Lounge 3 Mar '03
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]
From what I understand you can use something called HFE that does not harm the components should it leak. I would never use water anyway, is not that great of a heat conductor. I have seen several people on the web that have build systems where the mother board and all the cards were completely submersed in pure mineral oil also without any problems and they are able to super cool their systems way down and over clock really high. I am trying to find a link to a site I went to once that showed the guys system submersed in oil and running a game.
Paul Watson wrote: "At the end of the day it is what you produce that counts, not how many doctorates you have on the wall." George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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The idea of water being inside my computer would make me uneasy too.
"If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
- Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
"But a fresh install - it's like having clean sheets"
- C. Maunder Lounge 3 Mar '03
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]
well if youve got a few hundred (£400 or so) spare, you could use a VapoChill system, then its a gas in the system.
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well if youve got a few hundred (£400 or so) spare, you could use a VapoChill system, then its a gas in the system.
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Nnamdi, If I had that kind of money to blow, i'd have air conditioning in my room. And a minibar.
"If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
- Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
"But a fresh install - it's like having clean sheets"
- C. Maunder Lounge 3 Mar '03
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]
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Nnamdi, If I had that kind of money to blow, i'd have air conditioning in my room. And a minibar.
"If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
- Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
"But a fresh install - it's like having clean sheets"
- C. Maunder Lounge 3 Mar '03
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]
Jonny Newman wrote: i'd have air conditioning in my room erm, jonny, have you forgotten that you live in england? most of the year you wont be needing that. ;P
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Jonny Newman wrote: i'd have air conditioning in my room erm, jonny, have you forgotten that you live in england? most of the year you wont be needing that. ;P
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My current CPU temperature is 74degC. The main Case fan is blowing into the wall with about 1" gap. There is no ventilation in the room short of the crack in the door. Go figure :-)
"If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
- Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
"But a fresh install - it's like having clean sheets"
- C. Maunder Lounge 3 Mar '03
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]
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My current CPU temperature is 74degC. The main Case fan is blowing into the wall with about 1" gap. There is no ventilation in the room short of the crack in the door. Go figure :-)
"If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
- Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
"But a fresh install - it's like having clean sheets"
- C. Maunder Lounge 3 Mar '03
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]
Jonny Newman wrote: 74degC :omg: id sort that out if i were you, i think the chips stop working at about 80C, the automatically shutdown....cant be good for it, make sure youve got some thermal grease on it....or maybe a better heatsink.
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My old Athlon 900 ran at 57. My P4 2.5 runs at 37 (and is half as loud).
funny, my cpu doesnt make a sound, the heatsink fan on the other hand.... ;P
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[Dramatization] Captain, the core is overheating Captain: How bad is it? Chernobyl comes to mind... Captain: That bad!? Increase fans to full power. But Captain, that will produce a sound wave in excess of 50 dBA Captain: We must all make sacrifices to save the mother ship [/Dramatization] In other words summer has hit the unairconditioned dorms and I am now faced with turning my computer into a grill, or suffering loud fans X| -BestSnowman
The ALU canna take it Capn :laugh: The tigress is here :-D
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The ALU canna take it Capn :laugh: The tigress is here :-D
What about the vacuum tubes? How will they survive :) -BestSnowman
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Ray Cassick wrote: liqui-cool system. It would be nice, but I would feel a little uneasy. Too much can go wrong like a leak or pump-failure etc etc -BestSnowman
Dry ice, maybe? "Please don't put cigarette butts in the urinal. It makes them soggy and hard to light" - Sign in a Bullhead City, AZ Restroom
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[Dramatization] Captain, the core is overheating Captain: How bad is it? Chernobyl comes to mind... Captain: That bad!? Increase fans to full power. But Captain, that will produce a sound wave in excess of 50 dBA Captain: We must all make sacrifices to save the mother ship [/Dramatization] In other words summer has hit the unairconditioned dorms and I am now faced with turning my computer into a grill, or suffering loud fans X| -BestSnowman
Water cooling is the one true way. You can pick up 2nd hand or obsolete water cooling stuff cheap. A) Pump - Via Aqua 1300 $22 on the web. B) Automotive heater core - find one the right size with 1/2-inch hose barbs on it - $18 (local auto store) C) CPU water block - You can get these for about $30 if you look around and wait for a deal, or you can suck it up and pay for a newer model. Either way, you shouldn't have to pay much more than $50. D) Pabst 120mm fan to suck air through the radiator - $22 with a molex connector on it. E) If you have a fancy graphics card (nVidia Ti4x00 or Radeon 9xxx), you may also want to get a waterblock for that, but that's complete optional - $45. F) Tubing - I use Tygon. It's more expensive ($2-3 per foot), but it's also higher quality stuff. If you cheap out, it only costs about $5 for a 10-foot roll of vinyl tubing at Home Depot. A few of pieces of advice: 1) All waterblocks and the radiator should be made out of copper. If ANY of it is made of aluminum, you'll have metal corrosion problems. 2) Use Tygon tubing. It's more flexible than plain vinyl tubing, and it doesn't get hard with age. If you use steel hose clamps, tape the ends so you don't cut the tubing. 3) Use an algea inhibitor in your water, and use distilled water. 4) Assemble your system and test it for at LEAST 8 hours BEFORE installing it in your system. 5) Do research. Evaluate your needs. Ask questions of those knowledgeable in this area. 6) Since you won't be overclocking (you're only doing this to eliminate fan noise), a simple and inexpensive system should be able to at least keep your CPU at/slightly above ambient temperatures. 7) If you get a part-time job for a month, you should be able to earn enough money to do a fine job (and even buy newer more efficient components. You'd be surprised at what's available for water cooling nowadays. Complete kits for as little as $150, high-quality and highly efficient water blocks, radiators build specifically for computer water cooling, a lot of different pumps - it's amazing. There's LOTS of info on the web. The beauty is that it can all be move from system to system. Good luck. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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From what I understand you can use something called HFE that does not harm the components should it leak. I would never use water anyway, is not that great of a heat conductor. I have seen several people on the web that have build systems where the mother board and all the cards were completely submersed in pure mineral oil also without any problems and they are able to super cool their systems way down and over clock really high. I am trying to find a link to a site I went to once that showed the guys system submersed in oil and running a game.
Paul Watson wrote: "At the end of the day it is what you produce that counts, not how many doctorates you have on the wall." George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
You should check around the net. I have yet to see anyone proclaim that a water leak killed their system. Submersing your system in oil is a little extreme, messy as hell, and requires a lot more preparation that is generally considered acceptable. Besides, you're using a few gallons of oil as a heat sink. Eventually the properties of the oil will break down, and you'll have to replace it. BTW, water isn't used as the heat conductor. That's the job of the hard components. Water carries the heat away from the heat source, travels through a cooling device, and returns to the heat source, ready to do it all over again. Try using mineral oil in a water cooling system, your temps will rise dramatically because the oil doesn't flow as fast. High flow is the key, and water works best. It's boiling poiint is fairly high, and in a closed system, it won't evaporate. On a typical system, water cooling results in overclocked AMD cpus being cooled to just above ambient room temperatures. You can't beat that kind of performance unless you move to a more extreme cooling solution like phase change or TECs. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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My old Athlon 900 ran at 57. My P4 2.5 runs at 37 (and is half as loud).
My AMD 2400 runs at 52c. When I get my water-cooling stuff setup, it should come down to around 44c. I currently have to run with the case sides off, and the 6 fans in my system are driving me nuts. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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My current CPU temperature is 74degC. The main Case fan is blowing into the wall with about 1" gap. There is no ventilation in the room short of the crack in the door. Go figure :-)
"If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
- Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
"But a fresh install - it's like having clean sheets"
- C. Maunder Lounge 3 Mar '03
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]
That's dangerously high. I don't know what CPU you're running, but I know my old AMD 1900 was supposed to shut itself off at 80c. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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Ray Cassick wrote: liqui-cool system. It would be nice, but I would feel a little uneasy. Too much can go wrong like a leak or pump-failure etc etc -BestSnowman
As long as you're careful, and do sufficient research, you should be fine. Stay away from waterblocks with lucite or aluminum components (all copper is the absolute best). Leak test the components BEFORE installing them. Use a bit of anti-freeze to inhibit algea growth. Use distilled water. Don't use rubbing alchohol or oil. Keep it simple, and the system will work fine. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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That's dangerously high. I don't know what CPU you're running, but I know my old AMD 1900 was supposed to shut itself off at 80c. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
Live life on the edge. it normally hangs around 64c. BUt I was doing a lot of work so it bumped up. Its an AMD Athlon XP 2400.
"If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
- Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
"But a fresh install - it's like having clean sheets"
- C. Maunder Lounge 3 Mar '03
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]
