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    Then that God has no right to expect to be worshipped or loved in any way. It is a moral imperative to treat such a God with utter contempt, whatever the cost, and to treat his followers likewise!

    I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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    It might be easy for you to talk big against God right now. But some day, when you will be standing before him soon, you will be utterly terrified. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom (Proverbs 1:7). Better to fear Him now, than later when there is nothing that can save you.

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      That's what they want you to think! Actually, he's one of Our Lizard Masters: IRON SKY 2[^]

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      You mean I will not get to visit grandpa on the moon?

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        OriginalGriff wrote:

        Evolution doesn't change "facts" at all: it isn't a "fact", it's a theory

        Now you understand.

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        I’m not sure you understand the word 'theory' in this context, a scientific context, rather than a layman context.

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          It might be easy for you to talk big against God right now. But some day, when you will be standing before him soon, you will be utterly terrified. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom (Proverbs 1:7). Better to fear Him now, than later when there is nothing that can save you.

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          I will not. God can do nothing since it doesn't exist, nor any other gods or demons or whatever. And if he does exist HE will be utterly terrified for Hell hath no fury like a rational bad temeperd atheist who lived an entire life dominated by religious sycophants who maimed, killed and stomped on civil liberties to honor an extraplanar dictator.

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            The 10 Best Evidences from Science that Confirm a Young Earth | Answers in Genesis[^] Worth a read

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            RogelioP EX DE HL
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            Oh my good LORD! (not) where had I been? I am now truly convinced that the Bible is the world's most accurate book. If thrown in over a short distance to someone's head :cool:

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              It might be easy for you to talk big against God right now. But some day, when you will be standing before him soon, you will be utterly terrified. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom (Proverbs 1:7). Better to fear Him now, than later when there is nothing that can save you.

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              Believe in unicorns too rather than having them show up from nowhere later and shove their horns where Sun does not shine.

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                Oh my good LORD! (not) where had I been? I am now truly convinced that the Bible is the world's most accurate book. If thrown in over a short distance to someone's head :cool:

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                ISIS strongly disagrees.

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                  2 or 3 idiots peer reviewing a piece of toilet paper does not make it fact Evolution changes "facts" every few weeks. Would you rather base your eternal security on something that changes every few weeks, or something that has held strong for over 2000 years? If you could put your money in a bank that changed names as fast as evolution theory, or one that has existed for 2000 years, which would you pick?

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                  PradeepGaggandeep wrote:

                  Evolution changes "facts" every few weeks.

                  I do find it very weird that people who only believe in science will openly admit that it is a flawed method, meaning that it changes often, and they find that wonderful about it. I do agree that it is wonderful that science improves upon itself but if I am given the choice between a method that is admittedly flawed vs. one that has proven truth, why would I pick the flawed one? Weird.

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                    Would you rather bet your life on a medicine that has been rigorously blind tested and proven to work on the disease you suffer from, or visit your witch doctor so he can shake a stick at you and chant? The latter is the older medical treatment that has existed for probably tens of thousands of years... Evolution doesn't change "facts" at all: it isn't a "fact", it's a theory which explains and predicted extremely well changes we can and have seen happening in a population. Being a theory it is of course open to replacement if a better theory comes along and explains and predicts things better. And as for "something that has held strong for over 2000 years?" I would suggest you check your "facts" there as well unless you are reading it in the original paleo-Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic, or selected as "correct" by the papal Council of Carthage in 397AD (except for the Deuterocanonical books which were removed from the King James version in 1611 of course).

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                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                    Would you rather bet your life on a medicine that has been rigorously blind tested and proven to work

                    This is probably the worst example you could have chosen. You know very well that every year there are lawsuits that come out "if you ever took this drug, ..." because medicine is a very new technology compared to how long the world has been around. It is constantly being proven to have major side effects.

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                    The latter is the older medical treatment that has existed for probably tens of thousands of years...

                    I'm not sure why you don't seem to understand what you just wrote. You would rather take the brand new technology that has known deadly side-effects over the one that has been around for 1000s of years?! :wtf: :wtf: :doh:

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                      I’m not sure you understand the word 'theory' in this context, a scientific context, rather than a layman context.

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                      A theory is a theory is a theory. It's a guess. Educated yes, but still a guess.

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                        I admire your tenacity.:thumbsup: For me, trying to argue with a closed illogical mind is just an exercise in frustration and futility.:mad:

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                        RossMW wrote:

                        trying to argue with a closed illogical mind

                        Like someone who only accepts science. :laugh:

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                          OriginalGriff wrote:

                          Would you rather bet your life on a medicine that has been rigorously blind tested and proven to work

                          This is probably the worst example you could have chosen. You know very well that every year there are lawsuits that come out "if you ever took this drug, ..." because medicine is a very new technology compared to how long the world has been around. It is constantly being proven to have major side effects.

                          OriginalGriff wrote:

                          The latter is the older medical treatment that has existed for probably tens of thousands of years...

                          I'm not sure why you don't seem to understand what you just wrote. You would rather take the brand new technology that has known deadly side-effects over the one that has been around for 1000s of years?! :wtf: :wtf: :doh:

                          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                          :D For the same reason that I prefer to cook a souffle in a fan oven than on a open fire... ;)

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                            I’m not sure you understand the word 'theory' in this context, a scientific context, rather than a layman context.

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                            Some people seem to be incapable of understanding the meaning of the word theory in a scientific context. They assume that it must mean guess, because the concept of words having different meanings in different contexts is too difficult to grasp. See the reply immediately above mine, for example. :doh:


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                              :D For the same reason that I prefer to cook a souffle in a fan oven than on a open fire... ;)

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                              OriginalGriff wrote:

                              For the same reason that I prefer to cook a souffle in a fan oven than on a open fire

                              So, a fan oven has proven deadly side effects when used according to prescription like medicine does? No, therefore, it is a failed analogy.

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                                OriginalGriff wrote:

                                For the same reason that I prefer to cook a souffle in a fan oven than on a open fire

                                So, a fan oven has proven deadly side effects when used according to prescription like medicine does? No, therefore, it is a failed analogy.

                                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                RyanDev wrote:

                                a fan oven has proven deadly side effects

                                Damn right! It can chop your hair right up when you try to gas yourself! :laugh:

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                                  RyanDev wrote:

                                  a fan oven has proven deadly side effects

                                  Damn right! It can chop your hair right up when you try to gas yourself! :laugh:

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                                  Notice, you ignored this part "when used according to prescription." ;)

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                                    PradeepGaggandeep wrote:

                                    Evolution changes "facts" every few weeks.

                                    I do find it very weird that people who only believe in science will openly admit that it is a flawed method, meaning that it changes often, and they find that wonderful about it. I do agree that it is wonderful that science improves upon itself but if I am given the choice between a method that is admittedly flawed vs. one that has proven truth, why would I pick the flawed one? Weird.

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                                    RyanDev wrote:

                                    given the choice between a method that is admittedly flawed vs. one that has proven truth

                                    Of course, by "proven truth", you mean "other people who follow the same religion say it's true, so it must be true". * :rolleyes: I'd rather pick the option that leaves itself open to improvement as new evidence is discovered. The alternative - setting out an absolute unalterable "truth" which never adapts to new evidence - seems particularly illogical. I accept that some people find it comforting to be told what to think, and to never have to adapt to new facts. But that doesn't give them the right to force others to accept their "truth" - particularly not when they can't even agree on what that "truth" is to begin with. * And no, before you try to make the analogy, that's not the same as science. With religion, you're told "the answer is 42 because I said so, now stop asking questions". With science, you have access to the evidence and the reasoning behind the conclusion, and you're actively encouraged to question and challenge it.


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                                      given the choice between a method that is admittedly flawed vs. one that has proven truth

                                      Of course, by "proven truth", you mean "other people who follow the same religion say it's true, so it must be true". * :rolleyes: I'd rather pick the option that leaves itself open to improvement as new evidence is discovered. The alternative - setting out an absolute unalterable "truth" which never adapts to new evidence - seems particularly illogical. I accept that some people find it comforting to be told what to think, and to never have to adapt to new facts. But that doesn't give them the right to force others to accept their "truth" - particularly not when they can't even agree on what that "truth" is to begin with. * And no, before you try to make the analogy, that's not the same as science. With religion, you're told "the answer is 42 because I said so, now stop asking questions". With science, you have access to the evidence and the reasoning behind the conclusion, and you're actively encouraged to question and challenge it.


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                                      Richard Deeming wrote:

                                      Of course, by "proven truth", you mean "other people who follow the same religion say it's true, so it must be true".

                                      Nope.

                                      Richard Deeming wrote:

                                      I accept that some people find it comforting to be told what to think, and to never have to adapt to new facts.

                                      I don't know what experience you have with religions, but no religion that I am familiar with fits that description.

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                                        Richard Deeming wrote:

                                        Of course, by "proven truth", you mean "other people who follow the same religion say it's true, so it must be true".

                                        Nope.

                                        Richard Deeming wrote:

                                        I accept that some people find it comforting to be told what to think, and to never have to adapt to new facts.

                                        I don't know what experience you have with religions, but no religion that I am familiar with fits that description.

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                                        RyanDev wrote:

                                        Nope.

                                        OK then - where's your proof?

                                        RyanDev wrote:

                                        no religion that I am familiar with fits that description

                                        So you're saying that religions do adapt to new facts? That, in fact, they are a "flawed method", rather than a "proven truth"? :rolleyes:


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                                          RyanDev wrote:

                                          Nope.

                                          OK then - where's your proof?

                                          RyanDev wrote:

                                          no religion that I am familiar with fits that description

                                          So you're saying that religions do adapt to new facts? That, in fact, they are a "flawed method", rather than a "proven truth"? :rolleyes:


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                                          Richard Deeming wrote:

                                          where's your proof?

                                          For what specifically?

                                          Richard Deeming wrote:

                                          So you're saying that religions do adapt to new facts?

                                          Yep, I learned from science that pluto is no longer a planet, and then it was, and then I'm not sure. And my religion never told me what to believe about it.

                                          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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