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    Gavin Jerman
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    I've just upgraded my self build home pc from a PII 350 with 128Mb RAM to an Athlon 1Ghz 266FSB with 512Mb RAM. Apart from the impressive performance increase, my other main observation is how hot it runs. With just a CoolerMaster CPU fan (supporting up to 1.4Ghz) and a CoolerMaster case fan (noisy) the bios reports a system temperature of 98F/37C and a CPU temperature of 122F/47C. Disabling the case fan, to give the ears a rest, ups the CPU to 125F. Dropping the CPU to 750Mhz (not ideal) and without the case fan, the CPU runs at 116F/47C. These temperatures seem very high to me, but they don't seem to be affecting system stability. I'm sure the PII used to only run at 90F or thereabouts. Does anyone know what the normal operating temperature for the Athlon is, or where I can find out - no luck on AMDs web site. Do I need to invest in a better CPU fan e.g. ThermoEngine V60-2410, or should I accept that speed equals heat and use the case to keep the coffee warm? Gavin

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      I've just upgraded my self build home pc from a PII 350 with 128Mb RAM to an Athlon 1Ghz 266FSB with 512Mb RAM. Apart from the impressive performance increase, my other main observation is how hot it runs. With just a CoolerMaster CPU fan (supporting up to 1.4Ghz) and a CoolerMaster case fan (noisy) the bios reports a system temperature of 98F/37C and a CPU temperature of 122F/47C. Disabling the case fan, to give the ears a rest, ups the CPU to 125F. Dropping the CPU to 750Mhz (not ideal) and without the case fan, the CPU runs at 116F/47C. These temperatures seem very high to me, but they don't seem to be affecting system stability. I'm sure the PII used to only run at 90F or thereabouts. Does anyone know what the normal operating temperature for the Athlon is, or where I can find out - no luck on AMDs web site. Do I need to invest in a better CPU fan e.g. ThermoEngine V60-2410, or should I accept that speed equals heat and use the case to keep the coffee warm? Gavin

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      The maximum die temperature for 1GHz Athlon is 90C, so your temperatures are safe. It uses about 50W of power while your old PII used only 20W, but the increase in power dissipation is smaller than the increase of clock speed so you could say that the Athlon is more energy efficient.

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        The maximum die temperature for 1GHz Athlon is 90C, so your temperatures are safe. It uses about 50W of power while your old PII used only 20W, but the increase in power dissipation is smaller than the increase of clock speed so you could say that the Athlon is more energy efficient.

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        Is the maximum temperature the same for the 1.4 GHz Athlon, mine seems to run at about 62-64C, but the motherboard shuts the computer down if it reaches 70C which it has done once or twice whilst attempting to reinstall Windows 98SE :confused: Martin

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          Is the maximum temperature the same for the 1.4 GHz Athlon, mine seems to run at about 62-64C, but the motherboard shuts the computer down if it reaches 70C which it has done once or twice whilst attempting to reinstall Windows 98SE :confused: Martin

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          You should be able to increase the max temperature through a BIOS setting.

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            You should be able to increase the max temperature through a BIOS setting.

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            70C is the maximum it can be set to through the bios :( Martin

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              70C is the maximum it can be set to through the bios :( Martin

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              Ruh roh...

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                I've just upgraded my self build home pc from a PII 350 with 128Mb RAM to an Athlon 1Ghz 266FSB with 512Mb RAM. Apart from the impressive performance increase, my other main observation is how hot it runs. With just a CoolerMaster CPU fan (supporting up to 1.4Ghz) and a CoolerMaster case fan (noisy) the bios reports a system temperature of 98F/37C and a CPU temperature of 122F/47C. Disabling the case fan, to give the ears a rest, ups the CPU to 125F. Dropping the CPU to 750Mhz (not ideal) and without the case fan, the CPU runs at 116F/47C. These temperatures seem very high to me, but they don't seem to be affecting system stability. I'm sure the PII used to only run at 90F or thereabouts. Does anyone know what the normal operating temperature for the Athlon is, or where I can find out - no luck on AMDs web site. Do I need to invest in a better CPU fan e.g. ThermoEngine V60-2410, or should I accept that speed equals heat and use the case to keep the coffee warm? Gavin

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                My Athlon makes my room nice and warm too. Don't think the temp runs that high though, but my fan sounds really LOUD. You may want to check out www.ocshoot.com/quietpc.htm for some ideas on how to quiet down your system if it bothers you.

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                  Is the maximum temperature the same for the 1.4 GHz Athlon, mine seems to run at about 62-64C, but the motherboard shuts the computer down if it reaches 70C which it has done once or twice whilst attempting to reinstall Windows 98SE :confused: Martin

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                  For 1.1GHz and faster Athlons the max. die temperature is 95C. The motherboard heat sensor is usually located inside the chip socket and can't accurately measure the actual die temperature. That's why there is a wide "safety margin" in the BIOS thermal protection. AthlonMP and Athlon4 chips have an on-chip thermal sensor for more accurate measurement.

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                    Is the maximum temperature the same for the 1.4 GHz Athlon, mine seems to run at about 62-64C, but the motherboard shuts the computer down if it reaches 70C which it has done once or twice whilst attempting to reinstall Windows 98SE :confused: Martin

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                    Hello Martin, I have a 1.4GHz Athlon myself. My PC was having some overheating problems and my CPU temps were 56-62C. My computer kept rebooting when it got too hot. The machine came with an aluminum Thermatalk Super Mini-Orb cooler. It was extremely noisy and not very good at cooling. I tried resetting the cooler in fresh thermo paste because it appeared the original installer did not do a good job installing the cooler. I was able to drop the temp about 2C. I then purchased an all copper heatsink and fan combo(The Blizzard S370) from http://www.blizzardheatsinks.com/. Now my 1.4 GHz Athlon runs at a cool 45-49C. Also, the Blizzard S370 is a lot quieter than the Super Mini-Orb. By reducing the temp, you can really prolong the life of your system. Kind regards, Tim

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                      Ruh roh...

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                      John who is this TV star you quote? Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018

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                        John who is this TV star you quote? Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018

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                        Scooby Doo.

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                          Scooby Doo.

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                          Oh God, not another animal... ;). David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com

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                            My Athlon makes my room nice and warm too. Don't think the temp runs that high though, but my fan sounds really LOUD. You may want to check out www.ocshoot.com/quietpc.htm for some ideas on how to quiet down your system if it bothers you.

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                            Dud link :confused: ? -> www.ocshoot.com/quietpc.htm Rgs.

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                              Dud link :confused: ? -> www.ocshoot.com/quietpc.htm Rgs.

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                              Must be a DNS problem for you, cause it's a valid link. CodeGuy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wtl

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                                I've just upgraded my self build home pc from a PII 350 with 128Mb RAM to an Athlon 1Ghz 266FSB with 512Mb RAM. Apart from the impressive performance increase, my other main observation is how hot it runs. With just a CoolerMaster CPU fan (supporting up to 1.4Ghz) and a CoolerMaster case fan (noisy) the bios reports a system temperature of 98F/37C and a CPU temperature of 122F/47C. Disabling the case fan, to give the ears a rest, ups the CPU to 125F. Dropping the CPU to 750Mhz (not ideal) and without the case fan, the CPU runs at 116F/47C. These temperatures seem very high to me, but they don't seem to be affecting system stability. I'm sure the PII used to only run at 90F or thereabouts. Does anyone know what the normal operating temperature for the Athlon is, or where I can find out - no luck on AMDs web site. Do I need to invest in a better CPU fan e.g. ThermoEngine V60-2410, or should I accept that speed equals heat and use the case to keep the coffee warm? Gavin

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                                Athlons usually run hotter then Pentiums. You could try different cooling techniques b/c heat and processors in my experience != Good! -Matt Newman :suss:

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                                  Scooby Doo.

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                                  Could be Astro... I heard on Cartoon Network that they attended the same speech therapy class. ;)

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