More American politics for Europeans
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Well, the USians have a choice between an untrustworthy crook, an untrustworthy braggart and blowhard, and an unknown Libertarian. Given the realities of campaigning these these days (if you don't appear on TV, then you don't exist), only the first two have a realistic chance of being elected. I don't envy you!
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
and I sure as hell don't envy you. and if you had half a brain, you would know that if Hillary is elected president, then our relationship with Israel will become even less. And once you guys have no allies, then your ass is grass...or sand. At least Trump (with all his faults) will be more of an ally to Israel then the libtards are.
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The real sad fact here in America is that the media is just as complicit. They keep pushing that the citizens only have a choice between the two, but there is a third party called the Libertarian party with a candidate on all 50 state ballots. Neither Trump nor Clinton will be a good choice for POTUS and the Libertarian Gary Johnson is a much better choice.
When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others. Same thing when you are stupid.
Why do we hear none of this on the media over here?
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The Europeans still interested in American politics need to start protesting against Trump's opponent (Hillary Clinton). She deserves it more than anyone else. As President Obama's Secretary of State (responsible for foreign relations), she mostly neglected her official responsibilities and used the position as a means to solicit bribes and political connections from foreign governments and corporations. Her main accomplishments as Secretary of State include destabilizing governments in the Middle East and Africa, getting the U.S. Ambassador of Libya killed, causing the rise of ISIS, creating a dysfunctional policy of both allying with and fighting ISIS, and causing the migration crisis in Europe. After barely surviving an email scandal where she accidentally leaked top-secret military information to the whole world when all she meant to do was receive bribes from foreign entities (and then got caught lying and destroying evidence), she gets into another scandal: Apparently, she, her party leaders, and several media outlets illegally manipulated the primary election to get her elected above another member of her party (who was likely the legitimate winner of the election). Instead of denying these allegations, they accused Wikileaks of using Russian intelligence to obtain that data to disrupt the American political process (as if election fraud wasn't a disruption of the American political process in the first place). And then protests against the primary election results ended with peaceful protesters being thrown in jail to shut them up, and she continues to be the official party nominee (to be Trump's main opponent in the general election). So we've hit a new low here in America politics, and the only thing that's missing is bewilderment and/or pity from the Europeans that such a thing could happen in a (supposedly) first-world country.
jesarg wrote:
causing the rise of ISIS
Utter crap. ISIS was caused by the Bush administration gutting the new Iraqi govt army and civil service of sunnis. They then set up their own state in Syria. Why do you think the ISIS' generals are from Sadams old army?
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Why do we hear none of this on the media over here?
Because our media companies just forward what they want to?
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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The Europeans still interested in American politics need to start protesting against Trump's opponent (Hillary Clinton). She deserves it more than anyone else. As President Obama's Secretary of State (responsible for foreign relations), she mostly neglected her official responsibilities and used the position as a means to solicit bribes and political connections from foreign governments and corporations. Her main accomplishments as Secretary of State include destabilizing governments in the Middle East and Africa, getting the U.S. Ambassador of Libya killed, causing the rise of ISIS, creating a dysfunctional policy of both allying with and fighting ISIS, and causing the migration crisis in Europe. After barely surviving an email scandal where she accidentally leaked top-secret military information to the whole world when all she meant to do was receive bribes from foreign entities (and then got caught lying and destroying evidence), she gets into another scandal: Apparently, she, her party leaders, and several media outlets illegally manipulated the primary election to get her elected above another member of her party (who was likely the legitimate winner of the election). Instead of denying these allegations, they accused Wikileaks of using Russian intelligence to obtain that data to disrupt the American political process (as if election fraud wasn't a disruption of the American political process in the first place). And then protests against the primary election results ended with peaceful protesters being thrown in jail to shut them up, and she continues to be the official party nominee (to be Trump's main opponent in the general election). So we've hit a new low here in America politics, and the only thing that's missing is bewilderment and/or pity from the Europeans that such a thing could happen in a (supposedly) first-world country.
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+5 for proper use of "cite", especially in this context. Are you really an outlaw???
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
Being an outlaw does not preclude one from obtaining a proper education.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
The Europeans still interested in American politics need to start protesting against Trump's opponent (Hillary Clinton). She deserves it more than anyone else. As President Obama's Secretary of State (responsible for foreign relations), she mostly neglected her official responsibilities and used the position as a means to solicit bribes and political connections from foreign governments and corporations. Her main accomplishments as Secretary of State include destabilizing governments in the Middle East and Africa, getting the U.S. Ambassador of Libya killed, causing the rise of ISIS, creating a dysfunctional policy of both allying with and fighting ISIS, and causing the migration crisis in Europe. After barely surviving an email scandal where she accidentally leaked top-secret military information to the whole world when all she meant to do was receive bribes from foreign entities (and then got caught lying and destroying evidence), she gets into another scandal: Apparently, she, her party leaders, and several media outlets illegally manipulated the primary election to get her elected above another member of her party (who was likely the legitimate winner of the election). Instead of denying these allegations, they accused Wikileaks of using Russian intelligence to obtain that data to disrupt the American political process (as if election fraud wasn't a disruption of the American political process in the first place). And then protests against the primary election results ended with peaceful protesters being thrown in jail to shut them up, and she continues to be the official party nominee (to be Trump's main opponent in the general election). So we've hit a new low here in America politics, and the only thing that's missing is bewilderment and/or pity from the Europeans that such a thing could happen in a (supposedly) first-world country.
Hillary thinks unbridled immigration is a good thing. Therefore anything else she does is OK in most Europeans eyes. That Monster Trump and his 'racist' comments though...
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Because our media companies just forward what they want to?
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
Exactly. What many of us in the States have come to realize is that what we see in the media is nothing more than political theater. They want us to chose between who they want us to vote for. In the end, both Democrat and Republican parties have the same agenda. An independent or libertarian candidate will not go with the standard establishment ways of doing things, so they deceive people into thinking that there are only two candidates. They also play down the fact that there are write-in votes, so you can vote for whom ever you wish. The other mind-set, that is pushed a lot, is that if you don't vote for one of the two major parties, your vote is wasted. I keep telling people that there is no such thing unless you are stupid and do a write-in vote for a fictional character (Mickey Mouse). Believe it or not, some actually do this to make a point, but all they are doing is showing their ignorance.
When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others. Same thing when you are stupid.
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jesarg wrote:
causing the rise of ISIS
Utter crap. ISIS was caused by the Bush administration gutting the new Iraqi govt army and civil service of sunnis. They then set up their own state in Syria. Why do you think the ISIS' generals are from Sadams old army?
The Bush administration and Obama administration had roughly the same foreign policy. Hillary was a big part of that policy during her tenure as Secretary of State. Yes, there are other people to blame, too, but they aren't running for president right now.
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The real sad fact here in America is that the media is just as complicit. They keep pushing that the citizens only have a choice between the two, but there is a third party called the Libertarian party with a candidate on all 50 state ballots. Neither Trump nor Clinton will be a good choice for POTUS and the Libertarian Gary Johnson is a much better choice.
When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others. Same thing when you are stupid.
Go ahead - throw your vote away![^] :-D
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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and I sure as hell don't envy you. and if you had half a brain, you would know that if Hillary is elected president, then our relationship with Israel will become even less. And once you guys have no allies, then your ass is grass...or sand. At least Trump (with all his faults) will be more of an ally to Israel then the libtards are.
Were I an American, I would worry about the results of the election in either case. Clinton, as you said, will continue Obama's policy of eroding American freedoms, rule of Law, and ethos. Trump will behave like a bull in a china shop. Clinton is at least predictable, in that we know that her policies (both domestic and foreign) will be disastrous. As for Israel, I agree that America's active enmity would be disastrous for us. However, if the next administration is like Obama's, I expect that we'll muddle through. Israel has established strong diplomatic and trade relations with Russia, China, India, and other powers, and is no longer surrounded by enemies capable of destroying it. The only existential danger faced by Israel at the moment is the Iranian bomb, and on that issue, ironically, we have common cause with many of the Arab states...
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
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Being an outlaw does not preclude one from obtaining a proper education.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Forsooth!:thumbsup:
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Because our media companies just forward what they want to?
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
Our media is very intrusive in US politics, if it werent for Muslim attacks its all we would have on the TV! :)
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The Bush administration and Obama administration had roughly the same foreign policy. Hillary was a big part of that policy during her tenure as Secretary of State. Yes, there are other people to blame, too, but they aren't running for president right now.
You were wrong, admit it. Disenfranchising Sunnis was done by the Bush administration, not Clinton.
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Being an outlaw does not preclude one from obtaining a proper education.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Reminds me of the quote "A good 'ol boy can become an intellectual, but an intellectual can NOT become a good 'ol boy.", I believe it was in reference to Bush junior.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Our media is very intrusive in US politics, if it werent for Muslim attacks its all we would have on the TV! :)
That's why I don't watch TV. It sucks :sigh: :sigh:
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Reminds me of the quote "A good 'ol boy can become an intellectual, but an intellectual can NOT become a good 'ol boy.", I believe it was in reference to Bush junior.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
A "good 'ol boy" - a person who belongs to a network of friends and associates with close ties of loyalty and mutual support. More often than not, the term is (incorrectly, as is the case here) applied to white southern males. In actuality, it refers to a something more along the lines of a clique, where membership is not easily breached by "outsiders".
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
A "good 'ol boy" - a person who belongs to a network of friends and associates with close ties of loyalty and mutual support. More often than not, the term is (incorrectly, as is the case here) applied to white southern males. In actuality, it refers to a something more along the lines of a clique, where membership is not easily breached by "outsiders".
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013You're no fun, I like the Merriam-Webster definition better. good old boy noun \ˈgu̇d-ōl(d)-ˌbȯi\ Full Definition of good old boy : a usually white Southerner who conforms to the values, culture, or behavior of his peers
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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You're no fun, I like the Merriam-Webster definition better. good old boy noun \ˈgu̇d-ōl(d)-ˌbȯi\ Full Definition of good old boy : a usually white Southerner who conforms to the values, culture, or behavior of his peers
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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What does Merriam-Webster know. They're not good'ol boys. From a Tennessee hillbilly, yours truly.
When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others. Same thing when you are stupid.
Ugh, alright you guys just killed that quote for me...But in my defense I am a yankee (and damn proud of it) and the quote was from a Texan, one James Mcmurtry of Austin, yes he's the son of Larry. :)
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
