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  • M Marco Bertschi

    I live in a ground floor apt. Some time ago I heard a strange sound, like metal being thrown to the ground on the porch ('twas 1:15 AM, and it's usually a quiet neighbourhood apart from the alcoholic on the 2nd floor yelling at his wife, but he got a lot more quiet since the police spent them/him a visit). Anyways, that night we (we as in me and the police - reasons for calling the police further down the post) couldn't find any evidence of anyone strolling around the hood. Yesterday I finally found what the sound came from: The awning pole (which I usually hang at a hook on the wall) was cleanly leant on to the glass which separates my porch from my neighbour's. Now way it fell down and leaned itself there. I do know some people who potentially could have done this, and I don't really want most of them on my porch (or anywhere near me), not late night and not during daylight. So now that the why of the title is explained, has anyone of you guys experience with controlling cameras or motion sensors with Win 10 IoT Core on a RPi? If anyone can tell me what the most aggressive pepper spray I can legally get is, that would help as well.

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    Lost User
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    Get a big ugly dog. Has a built-in motion detector, audio warnings, and moves autonomous :)

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      Get a big ugly dog. Has a built-in motion detector, audio warnings, and moves autonomous :)

      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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      Daniel Pfeffer
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      It's not the initial cost, but the upkeep - licensing, vaccinations, food, exercise, etc. etc.

      If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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        It's not the initial cost, but the upkeep - licensing, vaccinations, food, exercise, etc. etc.

        If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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        Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

        It's not the initial cost, but the upkeep - licensing, vaccinations, food, exercise, etc. etc.

        Yes, the walking will be healthy for you, without having to pay for a sport-school. And not so long ago most dogs ate leftovers from the table. No idea what a license may cost over there though. While a camera may record anything as evidence, a dog may work even preventive; some people are afraid enough to not even come close to the fence.

        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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        • M Marco Bertschi

          I live in a ground floor apt. Some time ago I heard a strange sound, like metal being thrown to the ground on the porch ('twas 1:15 AM, and it's usually a quiet neighbourhood apart from the alcoholic on the 2nd floor yelling at his wife, but he got a lot more quiet since the police spent them/him a visit). Anyways, that night we (we as in me and the police - reasons for calling the police further down the post) couldn't find any evidence of anyone strolling around the hood. Yesterday I finally found what the sound came from: The awning pole (which I usually hang at a hook on the wall) was cleanly leant on to the glass which separates my porch from my neighbour's. Now way it fell down and leaned itself there. I do know some people who potentially could have done this, and I don't really want most of them on my porch (or anywhere near me), not late night and not during daylight. So now that the why of the title is explained, has anyone of you guys experience with controlling cameras or motion sensors with Win 10 IoT Core on a RPi? If anyone can tell me what the most aggressive pepper spray I can legally get is, that would help as well.

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          charlieg
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          I live with dog alarms - scares the #$%$%^ out of anyone on my front porch that makes the mistake of pushing the "make dogs go berserk" button. Humans call it the door bell. USB cameras don't pee on the carpet either. Shop around newegg or the like. What you want is a battery powered motion sensitive camera (or two). If you have a power source, then so much the better. I don't know if your porch is your entrance or the back, but I bought the ring video door bell for the wife. Catches all sorts of critters on my front porch - bats, lizard, large moths and children who come home too late :)

          Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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          • M Marco Bertschi

            I live in a ground floor apt. Some time ago I heard a strange sound, like metal being thrown to the ground on the porch ('twas 1:15 AM, and it's usually a quiet neighbourhood apart from the alcoholic on the 2nd floor yelling at his wife, but he got a lot more quiet since the police spent them/him a visit). Anyways, that night we (we as in me and the police - reasons for calling the police further down the post) couldn't find any evidence of anyone strolling around the hood. Yesterday I finally found what the sound came from: The awning pole (which I usually hang at a hook on the wall) was cleanly leant on to the glass which separates my porch from my neighbour's. Now way it fell down and leaned itself there. I do know some people who potentially could have done this, and I don't really want most of them on my porch (or anywhere near me), not late night and not during daylight. So now that the why of the title is explained, has anyone of you guys experience with controlling cameras or motion sensors with Win 10 IoT Core on a RPi? If anyone can tell me what the most aggressive pepper spray I can legally get is, that would help as well.

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            Mark_Wallace
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            Just get something like YawCam[^] and an IP camera.

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            • M Marco Bertschi

              I live in a ground floor apt. Some time ago I heard a strange sound, like metal being thrown to the ground on the porch ('twas 1:15 AM, and it's usually a quiet neighbourhood apart from the alcoholic on the 2nd floor yelling at his wife, but he got a lot more quiet since the police spent them/him a visit). Anyways, that night we (we as in me and the police - reasons for calling the police further down the post) couldn't find any evidence of anyone strolling around the hood. Yesterday I finally found what the sound came from: The awning pole (which I usually hang at a hook on the wall) was cleanly leant on to the glass which separates my porch from my neighbour's. Now way it fell down and leaned itself there. I do know some people who potentially could have done this, and I don't really want most of them on my porch (or anywhere near me), not late night and not during daylight. So now that the why of the title is explained, has anyone of you guys experience with controlling cameras or motion sensors with Win 10 IoT Core on a RPi? If anyone can tell me what the most aggressive pepper spray I can legally get is, that would help as well.

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              BarrRobot
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              Don't have the sort of camera/recorder that detects motion by comparing one video frame with the last. That sort is totally useless for outdoor use. One that I know of triggers on every raindrop that goes past at night, when the built-in IR floodlight gets refracted straight back into the camera, every bird that flies past in the day and every leaf that waves about in the wind, day or night.

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              • M Marco Bertschi

                I live in a ground floor apt. Some time ago I heard a strange sound, like metal being thrown to the ground on the porch ('twas 1:15 AM, and it's usually a quiet neighbourhood apart from the alcoholic on the 2nd floor yelling at his wife, but he got a lot more quiet since the police spent them/him a visit). Anyways, that night we (we as in me and the police - reasons for calling the police further down the post) couldn't find any evidence of anyone strolling around the hood. Yesterday I finally found what the sound came from: The awning pole (which I usually hang at a hook on the wall) was cleanly leant on to the glass which separates my porch from my neighbour's. Now way it fell down and leaned itself there. I do know some people who potentially could have done this, and I don't really want most of them on my porch (or anywhere near me), not late night and not during daylight. So now that the why of the title is explained, has anyone of you guys experience with controlling cameras or motion sensors with Win 10 IoT Core on a RPi? If anyone can tell me what the most aggressive pepper spray I can legally get is, that would help as well.

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                Richard Deeming
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                Marco Bertschi (SFC) wrote:

                the alcoholic on the 2nd floor yelling at his wife

                I thought you said you lived on the ground floor? :)


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                  Marco Bertschi (SFC) wrote:

                  the alcoholic on the 2nd floor yelling at his wife

                  I thought you said you lived on the ground floor? :)


                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                  I'm not the hungarian-by-choice.

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                  • M Marco Bertschi

                    I'm not the hungarian-by-choice.

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                    Richard Deeming
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                    Nagy's not an alcoholic. He's too busy drinking to go to the meetings. :-D


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                    • M Marco Bertschi

                      I live in a ground floor apt. Some time ago I heard a strange sound, like metal being thrown to the ground on the porch ('twas 1:15 AM, and it's usually a quiet neighbourhood apart from the alcoholic on the 2nd floor yelling at his wife, but he got a lot more quiet since the police spent them/him a visit). Anyways, that night we (we as in me and the police - reasons for calling the police further down the post) couldn't find any evidence of anyone strolling around the hood. Yesterday I finally found what the sound came from: The awning pole (which I usually hang at a hook on the wall) was cleanly leant on to the glass which separates my porch from my neighbour's. Now way it fell down and leaned itself there. I do know some people who potentially could have done this, and I don't really want most of them on my porch (or anywhere near me), not late night and not during daylight. So now that the why of the title is explained, has anyone of you guys experience with controlling cameras or motion sensors with Win 10 IoT Core on a RPi? If anyone can tell me what the most aggressive pepper spray I can legally get is, that would help as well.

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                      Better off doing that using motion in linux on the Pi. The camera support on the Pi in Win10 was not the greatest when I looked at it. Roger

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                      • M Marco Bertschi

                        I live in a ground floor apt. Some time ago I heard a strange sound, like metal being thrown to the ground on the porch ('twas 1:15 AM, and it's usually a quiet neighbourhood apart from the alcoholic on the 2nd floor yelling at his wife, but he got a lot more quiet since the police spent them/him a visit). Anyways, that night we (we as in me and the police - reasons for calling the police further down the post) couldn't find any evidence of anyone strolling around the hood. Yesterday I finally found what the sound came from: The awning pole (which I usually hang at a hook on the wall) was cleanly leant on to the glass which separates my porch from my neighbour's. Now way it fell down and leaned itself there. I do know some people who potentially could have done this, and I don't really want most of them on my porch (or anywhere near me), not late night and not during daylight. So now that the why of the title is explained, has anyone of you guys experience with controlling cameras or motion sensors with Win 10 IoT Core on a RPi? If anyone can tell me what the most aggressive pepper spray I can legally get is, that would help as well.

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                        Mark Starr
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                        Pepper spray? No: use Raid Wasp Killer. It'll shoot 30 feet and stop 'em. Works well on raging dogs too.

                        Mark Just another cog in the wheel

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                        • M Marco Bertschi

                          I live in a ground floor apt. Some time ago I heard a strange sound, like metal being thrown to the ground on the porch ('twas 1:15 AM, and it's usually a quiet neighbourhood apart from the alcoholic on the 2nd floor yelling at his wife, but he got a lot more quiet since the police spent them/him a visit). Anyways, that night we (we as in me and the police - reasons for calling the police further down the post) couldn't find any evidence of anyone strolling around the hood. Yesterday I finally found what the sound came from: The awning pole (which I usually hang at a hook on the wall) was cleanly leant on to the glass which separates my porch from my neighbour's. Now way it fell down and leaned itself there. I do know some people who potentially could have done this, and I don't really want most of them on my porch (or anywhere near me), not late night and not during daylight. So now that the why of the title is explained, has anyone of you guys experience with controlling cameras or motion sensors with Win 10 IoT Core on a RPi? If anyone can tell me what the most aggressive pepper spray I can legally get is, that would help as well.

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                          For the easiest way to set up a Raspberry Pi as a motion camera, I would highly recommend MotionEye OS: Home · ccrisan/motioneyeos Wiki · GitHub[^] He has customized the OS so the RPi acts as an appliance; all you have to do is flash the SD card and it's ready to go. To make configuation changes, you type in the internal IP address using another computer and you get the web-based login screen, and after logging in you can tell it how long to save recordings, whether to take still shots long with video, etc. You pretty much do all your interaction with it using the web interface, not the command line. It's based on Linux and not Windows IoT, but you won't notice the difference anyway because it just sits there and does its thing and the only time you interact with it is to look at recordings or change its configuration. For mine, I use this camera: http://www.waveshare.com/rpi-camera-f.htm[^] Unfortunately I put my camera inside a waterproof housing and the night vision infrared would reflect off the housing glass, so I had to remove the infrared bulbs, but during my initial tests the night vision worked great. If you wanted this as a project to learn and tinker on, then Windows IoT might be fun to try, but if you just want to set it up quick with minimal headache, MotionEyeOS is the way to go. I'm saying this as someone who started out doing it as a fun project, and I had grand plans of writing my own custom scripts to move the saved recordings around, but after a couple of fruitless days working on it, I got to a point where I just wanted it working, and MotionEyeOS was the winner.

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                          • M Marco Bertschi

                            I live in a ground floor apt. Some time ago I heard a strange sound, like metal being thrown to the ground on the porch ('twas 1:15 AM, and it's usually a quiet neighbourhood apart from the alcoholic on the 2nd floor yelling at his wife, but he got a lot more quiet since the police spent them/him a visit). Anyways, that night we (we as in me and the police - reasons for calling the police further down the post) couldn't find any evidence of anyone strolling around the hood. Yesterday I finally found what the sound came from: The awning pole (which I usually hang at a hook on the wall) was cleanly leant on to the glass which separates my porch from my neighbour's. Now way it fell down and leaned itself there. I do know some people who potentially could have done this, and I don't really want most of them on my porch (or anywhere near me), not late night and not during daylight. So now that the why of the title is explained, has anyone of you guys experience with controlling cameras or motion sensors with Win 10 IoT Core on a RPi? If anyone can tell me what the most aggressive pepper spray I can legally get is, that would help as well.

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                            forego the pepper spray and get a taser. itza one shot deal, but effective.

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                              Get a big ugly dog. Has a built-in motion detector, audio warnings, and moves autonomous :)

                              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                              I can vouch for the big scary dog design. We live next door to a 40 acre public park and have problem with drug dealers (& other idiots) every few years. Early on we had an 80-90 pound mutt that looked like a Rottweiler. We got the reputation for owning Cujo[^]. Sadly he died several years ago, but don’t tell the drug dealers that! ;P These days I’d suggest a Chow Chow[^]-German Shepherd[^] mix. The shepherd should give the animal good intelligence. The Chow Chow should make it very loyal to you/your family. I’ll need to be very strict with the dog as it grows… know exactly how you want it to respond and train it as a puppy. We did this with a beautiful brindle chow-shepherd mix that was loving and very playful. But look out if she didn’t know you and you walked on our property… she’d put the fear of God in you!

                              - great coders make code look easy - When humans are doing things computers could be doing instead, the computers get together late at night and laugh at us. - ¿Neal Ford?

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                                I can vouch for the big scary dog design. We live next door to a 40 acre public park and have problem with drug dealers (& other idiots) every few years. Early on we had an 80-90 pound mutt that looked like a Rottweiler. We got the reputation for owning Cujo[^]. Sadly he died several years ago, but don’t tell the drug dealers that! ;P These days I’d suggest a Chow Chow[^]-German Shepherd[^] mix. The shepherd should give the animal good intelligence. The Chow Chow should make it very loyal to you/your family. I’ll need to be very strict with the dog as it grows… know exactly how you want it to respond and train it as a puppy. We did this with a beautiful brindle chow-shepherd mix that was loving and very playful. But look out if she didn’t know you and you walked on our property… she’d put the fear of God in you!

                                - great coders make code look easy - When humans are doing things computers could be doing instead, the computers get together late at night and laugh at us. - ¿Neal Ford?

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                                Rottweilers are great :) Very loving animal.

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                                  forego the pepper spray and get a taser. itza one shot deal, but effective.

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                                  Tasers aren't 100% effective, but they might be lethal. The effectiveness of pepperspray depends on the pepper. Internet has some cool video's that show people eating those things and regretting it seconds later.

                                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                                  • M Marco Bertschi

                                    I live in a ground floor apt. Some time ago I heard a strange sound, like metal being thrown to the ground on the porch ('twas 1:15 AM, and it's usually a quiet neighbourhood apart from the alcoholic on the 2nd floor yelling at his wife, but he got a lot more quiet since the police spent them/him a visit). Anyways, that night we (we as in me and the police - reasons for calling the police further down the post) couldn't find any evidence of anyone strolling around the hood. Yesterday I finally found what the sound came from: The awning pole (which I usually hang at a hook on the wall) was cleanly leant on to the glass which separates my porch from my neighbour's. Now way it fell down and leaned itself there. I do know some people who potentially could have done this, and I don't really want most of them on my porch (or anywhere near me), not late night and not during daylight. So now that the why of the title is explained, has anyone of you guys experience with controlling cameras or motion sensors with Win 10 IoT Core on a RPi? If anyone can tell me what the most aggressive pepper spray I can legally get is, that would help as well.

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                                    Darrell Risley
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                                    Wasp and Hornet spray for getting rid of wasps and hornets, is said to be as or more effective than pepper spray due to the range of 25 feet with the Wasp/Hornet spray as opposed to pepper spray. I've had no experience with it but would be worth a little research. I would think it cheaper also.

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                                    • M Mark_Wallace

                                      Just get something like YawCam[^] and an IP camera.

                                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                      framckyinuk
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                                      Or on the same idea but cheaper you could get a regular webcam, a very long USB cable (20 meter did it for me) and the free software ispy. With that in minutes you can program the soft to record any noise or movement it detects. I had some issue with someone messing up with my bike and it helped a lot.

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                                        Or on the same idea but cheaper you could get a regular webcam, a very long USB cable (20 meter did it for me) and the free software ispy. With that in minutes you can program the soft to record any noise or movement it detects. I had some issue with someone messing up with my bike and it helped a lot.

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                                        Mark_Wallace
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                                        That raises an interesting point: what's the USB distance limit? I'll have to search the Interwebs.

                                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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