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What's your definition of a "senior" developer?

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    Lost User
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    I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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      I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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      One that makes more $ than me.

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        I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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        One that's out of short trousers, probably!

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          I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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          Nagy Vilmos
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          Two of: - in depth language knowledge - responsible for how the code base was/is designed - business domain expert Get those and you're senior

          veni bibi saltavi

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            I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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            Mike Hankey
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            I believe that 62 is when one starts reaping the benefits afforded a senior.

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              I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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              PeejayAdams
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              I thought at first that this was going to be about someone else you had a bit of a homework rant at (guy with the chess problem). Now, I'd be seriously worried if the guy who posted that called himself a senior dev and was somewhat relieved to see that he doesn't but I'm intrigued as to what question inspired this post ... I guess it would be unethical of you to tell us, though. Or would it?

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                I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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                Bassam Abdul Baki
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                What? Speak up?

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                  I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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                  Vincent Maverick Durano
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                  If one knows how to properly use google, then you can be classified as senior. :rolleyes:

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                    I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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                    Slacker007
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                    If you forgot why you came into work today, then you are a senior developer.

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                      I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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                      Marc Clifton
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                      As part of an article that I'm writing, I'll give you a loose definition: Someone who is senior able to apply scientific methods and has formal methodologies for their work process, demonstrates skill in the domain, tools, and languages, would be considered a master craftsman (ie, proven track record, ability to teach others, etc.) and also treats development as an art, meaning that it requires creativity, imagination, and the ability to think outside of the box of said skills. Marc

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                        Two of: - in depth language knowledge - responsible for how the code base was/is designed - business domain expert Get those and you're senior

                        veni bibi saltavi

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                        raddevus
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                        I think those are a decent basic set of criteria. At least you've created some kind of target. Most companies/managers/people just have no idea.

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                          If you forgot why you came into work today, then you are a senior developer.

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                          raddevus
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                          LOL! What say? errr...what were we talking about? Wait, what's this plastic thing under my hands? Keyboard? who? :laugh:

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                            As part of an article that I'm writing, I'll give you a loose definition: Someone who is senior able to apply scientific methods and has formal methodologies for their work process, demonstrates skill in the domain, tools, and languages, would be considered a master craftsman (ie, proven track record, ability to teach others, etc.) and also treats development as an art, meaning that it requires creativity, imagination, and the ability to think outside of the box of said skills. Marc

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                            raddevus
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                            I like your loose definition . And thinking back to the OP's question... 1. It could be that the senior is assigning work because s/he is so fantastically amazing that s/he doesn't have time for these easy things that s/he is assigning. or 2. Senior is assigning work because s/he is so NOT fantastically amazing that s/he has no clue about how to get the work done properly. I'm assuming the OP was alluding to the fact that it was the second condition. :)

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                              I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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                              jgakenhe
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                              When their cubicle looks like a kitchen pantry.

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                                I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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                                Mark_Wallace
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                                A senior developer is one who, when he needs to search the web, automatically starts to type altavista.com

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                                  A senior developer is one who, when he needs to search the web, automatically starts to type altavista.com

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                  David Crow
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                                  I started with that search engine! :doh:

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                                    I believe that 62 is when one starts reaping the benefits afforded a senior.

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                                    I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!

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                                    Clifford Nelson
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                                    Sorry, we are getting age creep and now someone must be at least 67.

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                                      I started with that search engine! :doh:

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                                      Mark_Wallace
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                                      It's a fair bet that a lot of us did.

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                                        A senior developer is one who, when he needs to search the web, automatically starts to type altavista.com

                                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                          I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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                                          Sander Rossel
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                                          A ploy by HR. When there's a senior there are also mediors and juniors, people you can pay less. Ultimately, it's just a stupid label people get when they're old, have worked in the industry for a while or have worked for the company for a while. You'd expect them to have deep knowledge of software and/or hardware engineering, but judging from the "seniors" I know it isn't really a prerequisite :sigh:

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