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Never trust polls... the Shy Trumps will catch you out Just like the Shy Brexiteers cuaght people out.
WiganLatics wrote:
Never trust polls... the Shy Trumps will catch you out
Actually, its not that you "can't trust" them, you just have to look at the "Science" behind them. Some will sample dispersed subsets appropriately, some won't for self interest. Some will normalize appropriately, some won't for self interest. Some will take sample enough of a size, some won't for self interest. The list goes on and on. The thing is, each of these can be OK to disregard on their own in some stat samples. It just depends on what data you are looking for, for which data sets you can use. With that, you can also control the outcome. That is in fact exactly how stats works. Shrinking the size enough and manipulating the normalizing factor SHOULD give you specific results that you expect, else math is failing your system. This does NOT however mean you can't trust stats, it just means you have to look at what the sample set normalized on, how big it is, how they dispersed it etc. etc. etc and they use the sample set to draw your own conclusion. But I digress, many media poll sets are simple used for propaganda. We knew this all along, but the recent Wiki leaks proves it but those that are so drained into media don't even seem to care. Both SIDEs have been manipulated. The DNC has rigged it using propoganda and media to infalte Trump at their convenience. They completely punked him into thinking he had half the support. The thing is the DNC never had the support either. So they punked themselves. I think third party support is at a massive high and they are just being really good at hiding it.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
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WiganLatics wrote:
Never trust polls... the Shy Trumps will catch you out
Actually, its not that you "can't trust" them, you just have to look at the "Science" behind them. Some will sample dispersed subsets appropriately, some won't for self interest. Some will normalize appropriately, some won't for self interest. Some will take sample enough of a size, some won't for self interest. The list goes on and on. The thing is, each of these can be OK to disregard on their own in some stat samples. It just depends on what data you are looking for, for which data sets you can use. With that, you can also control the outcome. That is in fact exactly how stats works. Shrinking the size enough and manipulating the normalizing factor SHOULD give you specific results that you expect, else math is failing your system. This does NOT however mean you can't trust stats, it just means you have to look at what the sample set normalized on, how big it is, how they dispersed it etc. etc. etc and they use the sample set to draw your own conclusion. But I digress, many media poll sets are simple used for propaganda. We knew this all along, but the recent Wiki leaks proves it but those that are so drained into media don't even seem to care. Both SIDEs have been manipulated. The DNC has rigged it using propoganda and media to infalte Trump at their convenience. They completely punked him into thinking he had half the support. The thing is the DNC never had the support either. So they punked themselves. I think third party support is at a massive high and they are just being really good at hiding it.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
Just adding on that the sample size also effects the margin of error and that any statistics with a sample size less than one thousand has a margin or error too large to be considered a reliable representation of the population. In regards to this election, there are rumors that the large polls (e.g. CNN and the like) are leaving out the results for entire sections of the demographic, such as the 35 and under voters. When I say rumors, I have seen some documents but nothing on the internet can be trusted until after November 8th.
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Denying is one of characteristic of Trump Puppet. :laugh:
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Let me end this thread; to be human, is to be an entity that uses generalization to make sense of the world, meaning that to be human is to be racist. That does not mean that you should go around and call those, very generalizing, deplorables :laugh:
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Let me end this thread; to be human, is to be an entity that uses generalization to make sense of the world, meaning that to be human is to be racist. That does not mean that you should go around and call those, very generalizing, deplorables :laugh:
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To be human is to be prejudiced. Racism is completely different.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
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Let me end this thread; to be human, is to be an entity that uses generalization to make sense of the world, meaning that to be human is to be racist. That does not mean that you should go around and call those, very generalizing, deplorables :laugh:
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to be human is to be racist.
That the dumbest thing I've read so far. Is that how you feel about other race than yours.
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to be human is to be racist.
That the dumbest thing I've read so far. Is that how you feel about other race than yours.
The best way to make your dreams come true is to wake up. Paul Valery
Stephen Gonzalez wrote:
That the dumbest thing I've read so far. Is that how you feel about other race than yours.
I'm not even able to define a race; AFAIK, I'm part homo sapiens, part Neanderthal.
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To be human is to be prejudiced. Racism is completely different.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
To be human is to be prejudiced. Racism is completely different.
Happens to be what I meant :thumbsup: I should really learn those more complicatered words one day.
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Stephen Gonzalez wrote:
That the dumbest thing I've read so far. Is that how you feel about other race than yours.
I'm not even able to define a race; AFAIK, I'm part homo sapiens, part Neanderthal.
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Let me end this thread; to be human, is to be an entity that uses generalization to make sense of the world, meaning that to be human is to be racist.
What is your point then ?
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Just adding on that the sample size also effects the margin of error and that any statistics with a sample size less than one thousand has a margin or error too large to be considered a reliable representation of the population. In regards to this election, there are rumors that the large polls (e.g. CNN and the like) are leaving out the results for entire sections of the demographic, such as the 35 and under voters. When I say rumors, I have seen some documents but nothing on the internet can be trusted until after November 8th.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); } Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
Foothill wrote:
Just adding on that the sample size also effects the margin of error and that any statistics with a sample size less than one thousand has a margin or error too large to be considered a reliable representation of the population.
Yeah, I think they honestly outright lie with their margin of error or are just really bad at math or really good at doublethink[^] as they sometimes account for things and they sometimes choose not to when it was even more applicable completely skewing what should be the "Margin of error" in fact sometimes their margin of error is as I said, outright manipulation. Its not that its an error, it is more accurately a fixed sample set that the outcome was known prior to the polling, and then the poll was used and claimed had a wrong "Margin of Error" as there was no error, it was set to be that outcome.
Foothill wrote:
In regards to this election, there are rumors that the large polls (e.g. CNN and the like) are leaving out the results for entire sections of the demographic, such as the 35 and under voters.
This is why I think third party is far more powerful that being stated. It seemed prior to the convention that they were all clearly going Sanders, and I honestly think they did not flip to HRC or Trump. I doubt they went Libertarian as the media likes to claim followed up by a silly Johnson Gaffe and then a bit about how voting Third party is a protest vote and a throw away etc., which then then bundle something in about Jill Stein to associate the thinking to Green. Truth is, she is off the charts yet in younger voters. If nothing I bet Green earns their funding for the next election, but I think it is possible the 270 is hit by neither and there becomes disorder in Congress (both branches)
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
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Let me end this thread; to be human, is to be an entity that uses generalization to make sense of the world, meaning that to be human is to be racist.
What is your point then ?
The best way to make your dreams come true is to wake up. Paul Valery
Stephen Gonzalez wrote:
What is your point then ?
Most humans will have prejudices, and will sooner or later be confronted by generalizations, even from the media. My point was in the "deplorables"; but that's not about race, is it? :)
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Stephen Gonzalez wrote:
What is your point then ?
Most humans will have prejudices, and will sooner or later be confronted by generalizations, even from the media. My point was in the "deplorables"; but that's not about race, is it? :)
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When you say "deplorables" ?, you mean Trump Puppets?
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When you say "deplorables" ?, you mean Trump Puppets?
The best way to make your dreams come true is to wake up. Paul Valery
..sorry for butting in again, but I had to look up what a race is first. I quote from wikipedia (emphasis mine);
Race is the classification of humans into groups based on physical traits, ancestry, genetics or social relations, or the relations between them.[1][2][3][4][5]
Which means that the hamsters have a list of all the members of the CodeProject race :cool: It is also too confusing, as it would mean that anyone can start a race. Would even make it possible to have twins in different races, wouldn't it? ..deplorables; New York Times[^]
Hillary Clinton’s comments Friday at a fund-raiser that half of Donald Trump’s supporters could be put in a “basket of deplorables” wasn’t a smart political play.
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..sorry for butting in again, but I had to look up what a race is first. I quote from wikipedia (emphasis mine);
Race is the classification of humans into groups based on physical traits, ancestry, genetics or social relations, or the relations between them.[1][2][3][4][5]
Which means that the hamsters have a list of all the members of the CodeProject race :cool: It is also too confusing, as it would mean that anyone can start a race. Would even make it possible to have twins in different races, wouldn't it? ..deplorables; New York Times[^]
Hillary Clinton’s comments Friday at a fund-raiser that half of Donald Trump’s supporters could be put in a “basket of deplorables” wasn’t a smart political play.
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Race and racist is different. I said Trump is a racist. For the last statement what you provided is quite true. Trump supporters are not only deplorables.but also puppets.
The best way to make your dreams come true is to wake up. Paul Valery
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Race and racist is different. I said Trump is a racist. For the last statement what you provided is quite true. Trump supporters are not only deplorables.but also puppets.
The best way to make your dreams come true is to wake up. Paul Valery
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Better than brain washed. I'll get my coat.
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Better than brain washed. I'll get my coat.
Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.
Much better than being Trump Puppet. :laugh:
The best way to make your dreams come true is to wake up. Paul Valery
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Much better than being Trump Puppet. :laugh:
The best way to make your dreams come true is to wake up. Paul Valery
Stephen Gonzalez wrote:
Trump Puppet
Whew! just when I needed my 'Trump Puppet' phrase fix, you came through.
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Race and racist is different. I said Trump is a racist. For the last statement what you provided is quite true. Trump supporters are not only deplorables.but also puppets.
The best way to make your dreams come true is to wake up. Paul Valery
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Stephen Gonzalez wrote:
Trump supporters are not only deplorables.but also puppets.
According to previous, that would be racist? :confused: Take a look at a Miss America election. Now take a look at the presidential candidates. WHERE DID IT GO WRONG?
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Stephen Gonzalez wrote:
Trump supporters are not only deplorables.but also puppets.
According to previous, that would be racist? :confused: Take a look at a Miss America election. Now take a look at the presidential candidates. WHERE DID IT GO WRONG?
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Don't confuse yourself. For the initial of start commenting, you have little knowledge and you jumping here and there to explain something. Let "us", the American talk about the our election. Tired of explaining each and everything.
The best way to make your dreams come true is to wake up. Paul Valery
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The Trump Puppet[^] :laugh: :laugh:
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I see you are ignoring the new post. Typical. You have nothing. You are such a puppet.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
It hard to discuss with random guy who has limited knowledge about what I'm talking. The English guy, Richard Deeming[^] beats you with your own post. And you talking about English, grammmer... as if you know something. You want conversation, then come back when you know something. You're not there yet.
The best way to make your dreams come true is to wake up. Paul Valery