DOS timestamp vs Explorer timestamp
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I've just checked here, and DIR in a CMD box is giving me identical timestamps to the default view in Explorer: that's on Win10 AE What are you doing that shows the problem? What system?
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I'm on Win10, but they are all on Win7. As example my C:\ shows Windows folder 02/11/2016 10:40am My DOS CMD window shows Windows folder 02/11/2016 09:40am Edit: also Temp folder is 15/11/2016 11:53am in both. So it appears to only be off for files before time change.
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I never noticed this before. Some of my users have shown me folders in Explorer have one time. The same folder in DOS CMD window are off by 1 hour. DST happened recently so could be involved. I've googled and found mention that the timestamps are supposed to reflect that. But it should be consistent. New files have identical timestamps, so it's just existing files. Also, any workaround to get the DOS window to match timestamps? Scripts are feeding bad data.
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Raymond Chen posted the explanation back in 2013: Why do Explorer and the command prompt interpret file times differently? – The Old New Thing[^] NB: Powershell shows the same timestamp as Explorer. It's only the ancient
cmd.exethat gets it wrong.
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I'm on Win10, but they are all on Win7. As example my C:\ shows Windows folder 02/11/2016 10:40am My DOS CMD window shows Windows folder 02/11/2016 09:40am Edit: also Temp folder is 15/11/2016 11:53am in both. So it appears to only be off for files before time change.
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Strange: mine shows the same timestamps: DirVsExplorer.jpg (794.5 KB)
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I'm on Win10, but they are all on Win7. As example my C:\ shows Windows folder 02/11/2016 10:40am My DOS CMD window shows Windows folder 02/11/2016 09:40am Edit: also Temp folder is 15/11/2016 11:53am in both. So it appears to only be off for files before time change.
I need an app that will automatically deliver a new BBBBBBBBaBB (beautiful blonde bimbo brandishing bountiful bobbing bare breasts and bodacious butt) every day. John Simmons / outlaw programmer
How old are these files? Something else is a bit off I think. We just went off of daylight savings, so we gained an hour that we lost. So, if it was a result of the recent switch off of DST I'd think the command window would be showing a time of 11:40 AM, with explorer being one hour sooner. Which it's not, so it's gotta be something else. Can you give us examples of real dates?
Jeremy Falcon
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Strange: mine shows the same timestamps: DirVsExplorer.jpg (794.5 KB)
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
Look at your Windows10 upgrade folder.
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How old are these files? Something else is a bit off I think. We just went off of daylight savings, so we gained an hour that we lost. So, if it was a result of the recent switch off of DST I'd think the command window would be showing a time of 11:40 AM, with explorer being one hour sooner. Which it's not, so it's gotta be something else. Can you give us examples of real dates?
Jeremy Falcon
I can't seem to upload a file. But I gave 2 examples earlier.
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I can't seem to upload a file. But I gave 2 examples earlier.
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Is that in MM/DD/YYYY or DD/MM/YYYY?
Jeremy Falcon
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Is that in MM/DD/YYYY or DD/MM/YYYY?
Jeremy Falcon
The dates are in DD/MM/YYYY
I need an app that will automatically deliver a new BBBBBBBBaBB (beautiful blonde bimbo brandishing bountiful bobbing bare breasts and bodacious butt) every day. John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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I never noticed this before. Some of my users have shown me folders in Explorer have one time. The same folder in DOS CMD window are off by 1 hour. DST happened recently so could be involved. I've googled and found mention that the timestamps are supposed to reflect that. But it should be consistent. New files have identical timestamps, so it's just existing files. Also, any workaround to get the DOS window to match timestamps? Scripts are feeding bad data.
I need an app that will automatically deliver a new BBBBBBBBaBB (beautiful blonde bimbo brandishing bountiful bobbing bare breasts and bodacious butt) every day. John Simmons / outlaw programmer
This is a complete hack, and I can't say I'm crazy about the idea, but at least it's something... Batch files and Daylight Savings[^]
Jeremy Falcon
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This is a complete hack, and I can't say I'm crazy about the idea, but at least it's something... Batch files and Daylight Savings[^]
Jeremy Falcon
Wow. That's a lot of work. Appreciated. I'd have to apply that to each file in the folder. I might just get them to turn DST on manually when they run a script for now.
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Wow. That's a lot of work. Appreciated. I'd have to apply that to each file in the folder. I might just get them to turn DST on manually when they run a script for now.
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Good luck man, would be interested to hear the solution you come up with.
Jeremy Falcon
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The dates are in DD/MM/YYYY
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I think this is what's happening then. I'm *guessing* the timestamp was saved in its real time (without a DST modifier) when DST was on. Presumably, the command window was smart enough to know DST is on and therefore adjusted the timestamps when shown on the fly. However, now that DST is off, it doesn't. Which is all fine and dandy except 9:40 didn't really exist back when that file was modified. Any new changes, using the same logic, would be ok simply because DST off is off. So all good and the command processor doesn't need to be as smart as explorer. To get around this, you're pretty much screwed bro. Best I think you can do in a batch file / script is just figure out if your date is within certain dates from when DST switches on and off and then account for it. It's hard coded. It's nasty. Not sure of anything else though. And of course write a strongly written letter to MS for not storing timestamps in UTC. :)
Jeremy Falcon
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I think this is what's happening then. I'm *guessing* the timestamp was saved in its real time (without a DST modifier) when DST was on. Presumably, the command window was smart enough to know DST is on and therefore adjusted the timestamps when shown on the fly. However, now that DST is off, it doesn't. Which is all fine and dandy except 9:40 didn't really exist back when that file was modified. Any new changes, using the same logic, would be ok simply because DST off is off. So all good and the command processor doesn't need to be as smart as explorer. To get around this, you're pretty much screwed bro. Best I think you can do in a batch file / script is just figure out if your date is within certain dates from when DST switches on and off and then account for it. It's hard coded. It's nasty. Not sure of anything else though. And of course write a strongly written letter to MS for not storing timestamps in UTC. :)
Jeremy Falcon
Why do Explorer and the command prompt interpret file times differently? – The Old New Thing[^] Explorer is showing the timestamp using the DST settings which were in effect when the timestamp was created. Powershell does the same. The venerable command prompt is showing the timestamp using the DST settings which are in effect now. And as Raymond said, fixing that minor display bug would carry too much risk of breaking something else.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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Why do Explorer and the command prompt interpret file times differently? – The Old New Thing[^] Explorer is showing the timestamp using the DST settings which were in effect when the timestamp was created. Powershell does the same. The venerable command prompt is showing the timestamp using the DST settings which are in effect now. And as Raymond said, fixing that minor display bug would carry too much risk of breaking something else.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
Gotcha. I'd be ok with that risk though. :laugh:
Jeremy Falcon
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I never noticed this before. Some of my users have shown me folders in Explorer have one time. The same folder in DOS CMD window are off by 1 hour. DST happened recently so could be involved. I've googled and found mention that the timestamps are supposed to reflect that. But it should be consistent. New files have identical timestamps, so it's just existing files. Also, any workaround to get the DOS window to match timestamps? Scripts are feeding bad data.
I need an app that will automatically deliver a new BBBBBBBBaBB (beautiful blonde bimbo brandishing bountiful bobbing bare breasts and bodacious butt) every day. John Simmons / outlaw programmer
Firs of all: Are we really talking DOS here, or the NT command prompt? Those two are technologically distinct.
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I never noticed this before. Some of my users have shown me folders in Explorer have one time. The same folder in DOS CMD window are off by 1 hour. DST happened recently so could be involved. I've googled and found mention that the timestamps are supposed to reflect that. But it should be consistent. New files have identical timestamps, so it's just existing files. Also, any workaround to get the DOS window to match timestamps? Scripts are feeding bad data.
I need an app that will automatically deliver a new BBBBBBBBaBB (beautiful blonde bimbo brandishing bountiful bobbing bare breasts and bodacious butt) every day. John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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I never noticed this before. Some of my users have shown me folders in Explorer have one time. The same folder in DOS CMD window are off by 1 hour. DST happened recently so could be involved. I've googled and found mention that the timestamps are supposed to reflect that. But it should be consistent. New files have identical timestamps, so it's just existing files. Also, any workaround to get the DOS window to match timestamps? Scripts are feeding bad data.
I need an app that will automatically deliver a new BBBBBBBBaBB (beautiful blonde bimbo brandishing bountiful bobbing bare breasts and bodacious butt) every day. John Simmons / outlaw programmer
I see a similar problem One of my vb programs checks to make sure all its files are up to date and then copies in updates using xcopy if necessary I haven't noticed a pattern yet in the PCs it happens to but sometimes the program tries to update at every start. When I check I find the file is identical but the timestamp is one hour out so I manually copy using explorer and everything is happy again
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Firs of all: Are we really talking DOS here, or the NT command prompt? Those two are technologically distinct.
It's the CMD window. Clock is correct, new files are ok, just ones from before time change are different in CMD dir.
I need an app that will automatically deliver a new BBBBBBBBaBB (beautiful blonde bimbo brandishing bountiful bobbing bare breasts and bodacious butt) every day. John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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I never noticed this before. Some of my users have shown me folders in Explorer have one time. The same folder in DOS CMD window are off by 1 hour. DST happened recently so could be involved. I've googled and found mention that the timestamps are supposed to reflect that. But it should be consistent. New files have identical timestamps, so it's just existing files. Also, any workaround to get the DOS window to match timestamps? Scripts are feeding bad data.
I need an app that will automatically deliver a new BBBBBBBBaBB (beautiful blonde bimbo brandishing bountiful bobbing bare breasts and bodacious butt) every day. John Simmons / outlaw programmer
This has been a problem for over a decade. I particularly see it with networked drives. If I have the same file on a local drive and on a networked drive, the file timestamps are off by one hour for 6 months of the year. File timestamps should only be valid in GMT. Let the final software call an OS function to convert it to local time just before displaying the file time. It's when the OS tries to be too smart that the problem arises. Some BIOS can automatically adjust for DST. But so can the OS. I believe the problem is when one drive is already automatically adjusted, but another drive is not. As in local drive versus networked drive.
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I never noticed this before. Some of my users have shown me folders in Explorer have one time. The same folder in DOS CMD window are off by 1 hour. DST happened recently so could be involved. I've googled and found mention that the timestamps are supposed to reflect that. But it should be consistent. New files have identical timestamps, so it's just existing files. Also, any workaround to get the DOS window to match timestamps? Scripts are feeding bad data.
I need an app that will automatically deliver a new BBBBBBBBaBB (beautiful blonde bimbo brandishing bountiful bobbing bare breasts and bodacious butt) every day. John Simmons / outlaw programmer
I hate the timestamps. It drives me batty to see a Modified Date earlier than the Created Date. Yes, I know how that happens, but it still drives me crazy.
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