Apple Dev acct v Andoid Dev Acct: Compare / Contrast
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I'm just sitting here waiting (possibly two days) for reply on my Apple Dev acct so I thought I'd write this up. Android I signed up for a Google Dev acct (Android) and it took about 5 minutes to get set up @ cost of $25USD. I then had to set up all the details of my app so I could put it in the Play Store. All told it probably took about 45 minutes for the work on my part to get my app in the store. However, the account sign up only took the 5 minutes I mentioned and then it only took about 30 minutes for a reply on my app (it requires very few access rights). That's amazing though. My app was in the Google Play store within 30 minutes. This is my first Android app ever. Wow. Contrast that too... Apple I have a friend who is helping me and he has an LLC that I've placed my work under. In the Android world, I just add the name of the company and everything is good. IN the Apple world, they force you to submit for a D-U-N-S number. That took over 4 weeks to get back. Since I was attempting to add my dev account under the official company, I waited 4 weeks. So yesterday I went in and completed the sign up on Apple (after 4 weeks with the DUNS number). I paid ($99USD) with his company credit card. The payment went through (they take your money with no problem). And then I got an email stating that I had to upload my picture ID. I had to upload a passport, driver's license, etc. That really felt odd. I had to take a picture of it and upload it. Weird. I did that and I got a reply. "We will contact you within the next 2 days." So I'm just sitting here waiting. In this world of automation! :laugh:
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So, big deal. It helps prevent a lot of malicious software making it into the app store. Work on your app while waiting.
Jeremy Falcon
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That seems backwards. If you work for an established company we'll run you though the ringer.... but if you're an independent (meaning I potentially work out of my garage creating hacks), then hey, no problem!! You're in!!
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
Kevin Marois wrote:
If you work for an established company we'll run you though the ringer....
That's a funny POV. You made me LOL!! Because you are right. :laugh:
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Hey Rad, I'm using your password generator with my Galaxy S7. :thumbsup: Works great except for a few little glitches. Nothing major, just little annoyances. Let me know and I can pm you with the details.
When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others. Same thing when you are stupid.
Donathan.Hutchings wrote:
Hey Rad, I'm using your password generator with my Galaxy S7.
That is so nice of you to even try it. I really appreciate you trying it out and for messaging me. Absoutely, PM the details and I will attempt to fix things ASAP. Thanks again, for letting me know.
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So, big deal. It helps prevent a lot of malicious software making it into the app store. Work on your app while waiting.
Jeremy Falcon
You're right. I actually do agree with you and it looks like my complaining paid off. :laugh: I just checked my email and I've been accepted into the appledev program.
My book, Launch Your Android App, is available at Amazon.com (only $2.99USD over 350 pages). Get my Android app on Google Play and F*orget All Your Passwords.
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You're right. I actually do agree with you and it looks like my complaining paid off. :laugh: I just checked my email and I've been accepted into the appledev program.
My book, Launch Your Android App, is available at Amazon.com (only $2.99USD over 350 pages). Get my Android app on Google Play and F*orget All Your Passwords.
raddevus wrote:
it looks like my complaining paid off
:laugh: Well, it is Christmas.
Jeremy Falcon
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dandy72 wrote:
no need to find some third-party to hack your own phone to root it.
Which means you need to own a Windows Phone. And there are only about a couple of dozen people who can say that ... :laugh:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
dev2k88 was claiming: > there is no way to test the app on an actual phone without passing through the store ...which I was refuting. And you followed that with: > Which means you need to own a Windows Phone So I'm confused. Are you saying the need to own a physical device in order to test on a physical device is a problem? How does that "problem" not also apply to Apple or Google? I don't see anyone offering free iPhones or Android phones. > And there are only about a couple of dozen people who can say that All joking aside, that's not really a problem for testing, is it? They're not hard to find. Right now I'm seeing the Lumia 640 on Amazon.com for USD$69.99. And the 640XL for the same price. Fully unlocked. No contract, yours to own.
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I have few apps published on Windows Store and I had no such problems. You can put your app on your phone through VS (if you set phone in dev mode) and test it on real hardware. If everything is all right app should be published within hours. I remember having some issues regarding the paperwork for taxes or something like that, but that's another matter... (Node: this is my experience for WP8, I'm not sure how things are with W10, but I doubt they are much different)
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I have to agree with you, Mladen Janković. I have the same app published for Android, iOS, WP8, and W10 (UWP) in the respective stores. I don't understand the concern with the Windows Store; the process was pretty straight-forward and not the horror story everyone warns of. We used off-site testers for all platforms and there were zero issues with getting the beta release loaded on their Windows devices. Publishing the Windows versions of the app was also a simple process. By FAR, the most cumbersome and time-consuming to test and publish was the iOS platform, although Apple's recent efforts to shorten the app review time has really helped. My first iOS app took a week and a half to get through review. This latest one took about two days (minus the shipping time to send them the custom BLE peripheral it works with).
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It's only if you register as a developer directly associated with a company. Sole devs do not have this requirement. https://developer.apple.com/support/D-U-N-S/[^]
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Odd that it took you 4 weeks to get the DUNS as their own information says 5 business days.
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I disagree. None of the things he has had to do for Apple so far say anything about the security or quality of the app that he is wanting to submit to the store, which in the end, is all that actually matters. It has mostly just been time-wasting hoops that they are making him jump through.:thumbsdown:
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I'm just sitting here waiting (possibly two days) for reply on my Apple Dev acct so I thought I'd write this up. Android I signed up for a Google Dev acct (Android) and it took about 5 minutes to get set up @ cost of $25USD. I then had to set up all the details of my app so I could put it in the Play Store. All told it probably took about 45 minutes for the work on my part to get my app in the store. However, the account sign up only took the 5 minutes I mentioned and then it only took about 30 minutes for a reply on my app (it requires very few access rights). That's amazing though. My app was in the Google Play store within 30 minutes. This is my first Android app ever. Wow. Contrast that too... Apple I have a friend who is helping me and he has an LLC that I've placed my work under. In the Android world, I just add the name of the company and everything is good. IN the Apple world, they force you to submit for a D-U-N-S number. That took over 4 weeks to get back. Since I was attempting to add my dev account under the official company, I waited 4 weeks. So yesterday I went in and completed the sign up on Apple (after 4 weeks with the DUNS number). I paid ($99USD) with his company credit card. The payment went through (they take your money with no problem). And then I got an email stating that I had to upload my picture ID. I had to upload a passport, driver's license, etc. That really felt odd. I had to take a picture of it and upload it. Weird. I did that and I got a reply. "We will contact you within the next 2 days." So I'm just sitting here waiting. In this world of automation! :laugh:
My book, Launch Your Android App, is available at Amazon.com (only $2.99USD over 350 pages). Get my Android app on Google Play and F*orget All Your Passwords.
Yes, Apple makes you jump through more hoops. With Apple, you will need to renew your developer license every year, re-publish your apps with renewed certificates every year, and go through longer wait periods for your app to get reviewed. It can be a pain. However, Google Play virtually does nothing to verify your app other than scan it for viruses before allowing it to go through to the store. No real person ever looks at it in my experience, while I know Apple looks at it because Apple has a test account that I setup under my apps and I can see when they last logged in (and they've asked me follow up questions). So from developer standpoint, you might think Google Play is better because you don't have to do so much, but from a consumer point-of-view, I have a higher comfort level with Apple knowing someone is taking a look at the app to make sure it is what the developer says it is and it isn't some kind of malware.
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The differences in the levels of malware apps between the stores indicates that they're potentially doing something right. Making sure the developer is who he says he is seems sensible (although painfully slow).
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Brent Jenkins wrote:
The differences in the levels of malware apps between the stores indicates that they're potentially doing something right.
It doesn't seem to be working very well. Don’t Be Fooled: The Mac App Store Is Full of Scams[^]
And.. Android-rooting Gooligan malware infects 1 million devices • The Register[^] "
At an estimated rate of 13,000 smartphones a day
" :)
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I'm just sitting here waiting (possibly two days) for reply on my Apple Dev acct so I thought I'd write this up. Android I signed up for a Google Dev acct (Android) and it took about 5 minutes to get set up @ cost of $25USD. I then had to set up all the details of my app so I could put it in the Play Store. All told it probably took about 45 minutes for the work on my part to get my app in the store. However, the account sign up only took the 5 minutes I mentioned and then it only took about 30 minutes for a reply on my app (it requires very few access rights). That's amazing though. My app was in the Google Play store within 30 minutes. This is my first Android app ever. Wow. Contrast that too... Apple I have a friend who is helping me and he has an LLC that I've placed my work under. In the Android world, I just add the name of the company and everything is good. IN the Apple world, they force you to submit for a D-U-N-S number. That took over 4 weeks to get back. Since I was attempting to add my dev account under the official company, I waited 4 weeks. So yesterday I went in and completed the sign up on Apple (after 4 weeks with the DUNS number). I paid ($99USD) with his company credit card. The payment went through (they take your money with no problem). And then I got an email stating that I had to upload my picture ID. I had to upload a passport, driver's license, etc. That really felt odd. I had to take a picture of it and upload it. Weird. I did that and I got a reply. "We will contact you within the next 2 days." So I'm just sitting here waiting. In this world of automation! :laugh:
My book, Launch Your Android App, is available at Amazon.com (only $2.99USD over 350 pages). Get my Android app on Google Play and F*orget All Your Passwords.
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Odd that it took you 4 weeks to get the DUNS as their own information says 5 business days.
It could've been some administrative on our side too, since my friend handled it. But i know others have said it took them this long too.
My book, Launch Your Android App, is available at Amazon.com (only $2.99USD over 350 pages). Get my Android app on Google Play and F*orget All Your Passwords.
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Yes, Apple makes you jump through more hoops. With Apple, you will need to renew your developer license every year, re-publish your apps with renewed certificates every year, and go through longer wait periods for your app to get reviewed. It can be a pain. However, Google Play virtually does nothing to verify your app other than scan it for viruses before allowing it to go through to the store. No real person ever looks at it in my experience, while I know Apple looks at it because Apple has a test account that I setup under my apps and I can see when they last logged in (and they've asked me follow up questions). So from developer standpoint, you might think Google Play is better because you don't have to do so much, but from a consumer point-of-view, I have a higher comfort level with Apple knowing someone is taking a look at the app to make sure it is what the developer says it is and it isn't some kind of malware.
That's great information about how the Apple Dev account works. Thanks and I do agree with you on the safety issues. At least the app store items are vetted and once you get there consumers have a bit more trust in the app. That's always good for those of us who are doing legit work.
My book, Launch Your Android App, is available at Amazon.com (only $2.99USD over 350 pages). Get my Android app on Google Play and F*orget All Your Passwords.
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I'm just sitting here waiting (possibly two days) for reply on my Apple Dev acct so I thought I'd write this up. Android I signed up for a Google Dev acct (Android) and it took about 5 minutes to get set up @ cost of $25USD. I then had to set up all the details of my app so I could put it in the Play Store. All told it probably took about 45 minutes for the work on my part to get my app in the store. However, the account sign up only took the 5 minutes I mentioned and then it only took about 30 minutes for a reply on my app (it requires very few access rights). That's amazing though. My app was in the Google Play store within 30 minutes. This is my first Android app ever. Wow. Contrast that too... Apple I have a friend who is helping me and he has an LLC that I've placed my work under. In the Android world, I just add the name of the company and everything is good. IN the Apple world, they force you to submit for a D-U-N-S number. That took over 4 weeks to get back. Since I was attempting to add my dev account under the official company, I waited 4 weeks. So yesterday I went in and completed the sign up on Apple (after 4 weeks with the DUNS number). I paid ($99USD) with his company credit card. The payment went through (they take your money with no problem). And then I got an email stating that I had to upload my picture ID. I had to upload a passport, driver's license, etc. That really felt odd. I had to take a picture of it and upload it. Weird. I did that and I got a reply. "We will contact you within the next 2 days." So I'm just sitting here waiting. In this world of automation! :laugh:
My book, Launch Your Android App, is available at Amazon.com (only $2.99USD over 350 pages). Get my Android app on Google Play and F*orget All Your Passwords.
raddevus wrote:
I paid ($99USD)...
And that's per year, correct?
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raddevus wrote:
I paid ($99USD)...
And that's per year, correct?
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
That's correct. FYI- Mine was a little more, because tax was included.
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