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  • M Marc Clifton

    WSDL, SOAP, XML, reports... Metaphorically, where as McCoy when he told Kirk he belongs in the Captain's chair of a starship exploring the galaxy, not sitting behind some desk pushing paper in a cubicle under florescent lights with no window in sight. What amazes me is that software that runs an insurance business can have bugs. I mean, it's all pushing numbers around, some conditional logic, and some math. :~ Marc

    V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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    Marc Clifton wrote:

    What amazes me is that software that runs an insurance business can have bugs. I mean, it's all pushing numbers around, some conditional logic, and some math.

    I mean, I can't count how many times I missed a minus sign or a 2 in my math and physics problems...

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      den2k88 wrote:

      They could fail even finding their own backside output port in the toilet.

      I prefer to say "couldn't find his own ass with both hands and a map" myself.

      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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      OriginalGriff wrote:

      ass

      When did Wales join the USA? Was this one of the effects of Brexit that the BBC hasn't covered? :rolleyes: Google translate can't seem to find the proper Welsh word - does dinau work? Otherwise, stick to a proper English "arse". :)


      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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      • M Marc Clifton

        WSDL, SOAP, XML, reports... Metaphorically, where as McCoy when he told Kirk he belongs in the Captain's chair of a starship exploring the galaxy, not sitting behind some desk pushing paper in a cubicle under florescent lights with no window in sight. What amazes me is that software that runs an insurance business can have bugs. I mean, it's all pushing numbers around, some conditional logic, and some math. :~ Marc

        V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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        I feel your pain. I was on two contracts in Pennsylvania, one in Philly and the other in Allentown. Both were insurance companies. I hated every minute of it, not only because, you know, insurance, but also everything had to be written in VB6. X| Of course, this was back in the 90's.

        When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others. Same thing when you are stupid.

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        • M Marc Clifton

          WSDL, SOAP, XML, reports... Metaphorically, where as McCoy when he told Kirk he belongs in the Captain's chair of a starship exploring the galaxy, not sitting behind some desk pushing paper in a cubicle under florescent lights with no window in sight. What amazes me is that software that runs an insurance business can have bugs. I mean, it's all pushing numbers around, some conditional logic, and some math. :~ Marc

          V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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          W Balboos GHB
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          I've been coding for an insurance company for years. How not to get board? I solve the problems as abstractly as I can - they work for the insurance business, but only because they're a subset of the "everything" that they're made to fit. My fun is making it as generic as possible and as robust as possible. Now, I admit that sometimes they make me actually do the odd report - but even that's mostly taken care of with a "generic reporting" interface. The DBA can use it to create the reports that automatically go to table (with a too-Excel link, when appropriate), and generally, I palm the ugly work off onto the people who are supposed to do it. The method to this madness is to get the work for them done very well and reliably so - but on my terms. Those that understand (fortunately, that now includes the CEO!) appreciate stuff that's built to last through business changes.

          Ravings en masse^

          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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          • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

            OriginalGriff wrote:

            ass

            When did Wales join the USA? Was this one of the effects of Brexit that the BBC hasn't covered? :rolleyes: Google translate can't seem to find the proper Welsh word - does dinau work? Otherwise, stick to a proper English "arse". :)


            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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            I wasn't sure it would get through the MickMartinFilter™, so went with a donkey synonym instead.

            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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            • M Marc Clifton

              WSDL, SOAP, XML, reports... Metaphorically, where as McCoy when he told Kirk he belongs in the Captain's chair of a starship exploring the galaxy, not sitting behind some desk pushing paper in a cubicle under florescent lights with no window in sight. What amazes me is that software that runs an insurance business can have bugs. I mean, it's all pushing numbers around, some conditional logic, and some math. :~ Marc

              V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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              ... but it pays off ...

              Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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              • M Marc Clifton

                WSDL, SOAP, XML, reports... Metaphorically, where as McCoy when he told Kirk he belongs in the Captain's chair of a starship exploring the galaxy, not sitting behind some desk pushing paper in a cubicle under florescent lights with no window in sight. What amazes me is that software that runs an insurance business can have bugs. I mean, it's all pushing numbers around, some conditional logic, and some math. :~ Marc

                V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                Marc Clifton wrote:

                it's all pushing numbers around, some conditional logic, and some math.

                Well, where else would you want to put the bugs if not there?

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  den2k88 wrote:

                  They could fail even finding their own backside output port in the toilet.

                  I prefer to say "couldn't find his own ass with both hands and a map" myself.

                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                  den2k88
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                  Yes, that was the original sentence. I like more being indirectly vulgar when I can :D

                  DURA LEX, SED LEX GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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                    I feel your pain. I was on two contracts in Pennsylvania, one in Philly and the other in Allentown. Both were insurance companies. I hated every minute of it, not only because, you know, insurance, but also everything had to be written in VB6. X| Of course, this was back in the 90's.

                    When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others. Same thing when you are stupid.

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                    Donathan.Hutchings wrote:

                    but also everything had to be written in VB6.

                    Happily, it's C#. Other positives, the people are really really nice and as a contractor, the pay is great. Marc

                    V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                      There are a lot of simians instead of developers. They could fail even finding their own backside output port in the toilet.

                      DURA LEX, SED LEX GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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                      :thumbsup: So true.

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                      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                        ass

                        When did Wales join the USA? Was this one of the effects of Brexit that the BBC hasn't covered? :rolleyes: Google translate can't seem to find the proper Welsh word - does dinau work? Otherwise, stick to a proper English "arse". :)


                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                        Good catch. :laugh:

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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          WSDL, SOAP, XML, reports... Metaphorically, where as McCoy when he told Kirk he belongs in the Captain's chair of a starship exploring the galaxy, not sitting behind some desk pushing paper in a cubicle under florescent lights with no window in sight. What amazes me is that software that runs an insurance business can have bugs. I mean, it's all pushing numbers around, some conditional logic, and some math. :~ Marc

                          V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                          Sander Rossel
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                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                          where as McCoy when he told Kirk he belongs in the Captain's chair

                          Why did I think of an X-Men/Star Trek crossover? :D

                          arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly Sander's bits - Writing the code you need

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                          • M Marc Clifton

                            Donathan.Hutchings wrote:

                            but also everything had to be written in VB6.

                            Happily, it's C#. Other positives, the people are really really nice and as a contractor, the pay is great. Marc

                            V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                            Gary Wheeler
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                            Marc Clifton wrote:

                            the people are really really nice and as a contractor, the pay is great

                            Hold your nose, take the money and run! :-D

                            Software Zen: delete this;

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              WSDL, SOAP, XML, reports... Metaphorically, where as McCoy when he told Kirk he belongs in the Captain's chair of a starship exploring the galaxy, not sitting behind some desk pushing paper in a cubicle under florescent lights with no window in sight. What amazes me is that software that runs an insurance business can have bugs. I mean, it's all pushing numbers around, some conditional logic, and some math. :~ Marc

                              V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                              What's exciting is making a change that works for you but in another, completely unexpected context causes 1000's of checks to be printed the following day without payee names. :-O It was so tempting to take one of those 100k checks for myself...

                              #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                              • M Marc Clifton

                                WSDL, SOAP, XML, reports... Metaphorically, where as McCoy when he told Kirk he belongs in the Captain's chair of a starship exploring the galaxy, not sitting behind some desk pushing paper in a cubicle under florescent lights with no window in sight. What amazes me is that software that runs an insurance business can have bugs. I mean, it's all pushing numbers around, some conditional logic, and some math. :~ Marc

                                V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                                Jeremy Falcon
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                                You should get into porn. Problem solved.

                                Jeremy Falcon

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                                • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                                  ass

                                  When did Wales join the USA? Was this one of the effects of Brexit that the BBC hasn't covered? :rolleyes: Google translate can't seem to find the proper Welsh word - does dinau work? Otherwise, stick to a proper English "arse". :)


                                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                  Forogar
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                                  OG was just proving that he is (at least) biligual, he can speak both English and American!

                                  - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                  • M Marc Clifton

                                    WSDL, SOAP, XML, reports... Metaphorically, where as McCoy when he told Kirk he belongs in the Captain's chair of a starship exploring the galaxy, not sitting behind some desk pushing paper in a cubicle under florescent lights with no window in sight. What amazes me is that software that runs an insurance business can have bugs. I mean, it's all pushing numbers around, some conditional logic, and some math. :~ Marc

                                    V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                                    Kyle Moyer
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                                    I work the other side of the insurance game; I write software that helps people manage billables and file insurance claims. So frankly, I don't know how insurance software could ever have bugs, since from my experience, it's all basically this:

                                    if (Claim.ChargeAmount > 0)
                                    {
                                    Claim.Status = ClaimStatus.Denied;
                                    }
                                    else
                                    {
                                    Claim.PaidAmount = 0;
                                    }

                                    ;P

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                                      You should get into porn. Problem solved.

                                      Jeremy Falcon

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                                      Marc Clifton
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                                      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                      You should get into porn.

                                      Quite so.[^] All that got installed at a club in Tijuana. Marc

                                      V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                                      • M Marc Clifton

                                        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                        You should get into porn.

                                        Quite so.[^] All that got installed at a club in Tijuana. Marc

                                        V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                                        CPallini
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                                        WOW!

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                                        • M Marc Clifton

                                          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                          You should get into porn.

                                          Quite so.[^] All that got installed at a club in Tijuana. Marc

                                          V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                                          Jeremy Falcon
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                                          Not sure if I should click that link while being at work, but the URL slug is quite fitting. :laugh:

                                          Jeremy Falcon

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