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  • raddevusR raddevus

    I previously mentioned (here : The Lounge[^] ) that my wife's laptop stopped working and it seemed as if it was because Win10 hadn't been activated on it. Like MS was trying to get our attention. Ubuntu To the Rescue She needed Internet access to do some work. I had previously downloaded Ubuntu 16.04 and created a bootable USB. I was able to boot off that USB key and install it to a old laptop drive that I put into her laptop. She was back up and running in about 30 minutes. not bad. Also, while she was running on that machine I had her SSD (with win10) loaded into another cheapo laptop and it booted up. I flipped the old laptop over and found the Win 7 product key and was able to register / activate Win10. I couldn't believe it worked. After that i put the SSD back in her laptop and now she's running fine. Can't beleive it all worked out. I mean, I'm talking about Win10 getting something right --- :wtf: Of course why it stopped working in the first place still seems a bit of a mystery. If Running Win10, Keep An Ubuntu USB Distro Available My suggestion is to build an Ubuntu USB bootable distro available if you're running Win10. That's the shortest path to get working again. That'll probably be Microsoft's stance soon too. :laugh:

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    Joan M
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    Ubuntu with it's capability to "try" it without installing has helped me to solve some friend computer issues. It is a good advice having one close. :cool:

    https://www.robotecnik.com freelance robots, PLC and CNC programmer.

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    • raddevusR raddevus

      I previously mentioned (here : The Lounge[^] ) that my wife's laptop stopped working and it seemed as if it was because Win10 hadn't been activated on it. Like MS was trying to get our attention. Ubuntu To the Rescue She needed Internet access to do some work. I had previously downloaded Ubuntu 16.04 and created a bootable USB. I was able to boot off that USB key and install it to a old laptop drive that I put into her laptop. She was back up and running in about 30 minutes. not bad. Also, while she was running on that machine I had her SSD (with win10) loaded into another cheapo laptop and it booted up. I flipped the old laptop over and found the Win 7 product key and was able to register / activate Win10. I couldn't believe it worked. After that i put the SSD back in her laptop and now she's running fine. Can't beleive it all worked out. I mean, I'm talking about Win10 getting something right --- :wtf: Of course why it stopped working in the first place still seems a bit of a mystery. If Running Win10, Keep An Ubuntu USB Distro Available My suggestion is to build an Ubuntu USB bootable distro available if you're running Win10. That's the shortest path to get working again. That'll probably be Microsoft's stance soon too. :laugh:

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      Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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      raddevus wrote:

      I mean, I'm talking about Win10 getting something right

      So activating an OS buy moving your SSD to an other computer it's called 'right'? Aren't we a bit too low..

      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

      "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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      • raddevusR raddevus

        I previously mentioned (here : The Lounge[^] ) that my wife's laptop stopped working and it seemed as if it was because Win10 hadn't been activated on it. Like MS was trying to get our attention. Ubuntu To the Rescue She needed Internet access to do some work. I had previously downloaded Ubuntu 16.04 and created a bootable USB. I was able to boot off that USB key and install it to a old laptop drive that I put into her laptop. She was back up and running in about 30 minutes. not bad. Also, while she was running on that machine I had her SSD (with win10) loaded into another cheapo laptop and it booted up. I flipped the old laptop over and found the Win 7 product key and was able to register / activate Win10. I couldn't believe it worked. After that i put the SSD back in her laptop and now she's running fine. Can't beleive it all worked out. I mean, I'm talking about Win10 getting something right --- :wtf: Of course why it stopped working in the first place still seems a bit of a mystery. If Running Win10, Keep An Ubuntu USB Distro Available My suggestion is to build an Ubuntu USB bootable distro available if you're running Win10. That's the shortest path to get working again. That'll probably be Microsoft's stance soon too. :laugh:

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        Cristian Amarie
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        Stopped working can be a million on things. There were issues with registration, upgrade to Win10? I installed 30 times last year and not a single one has failed. Especially a triple boot xubuntu/Windows 7 x64/Mac OS (hackintosh) and I was sweating during the upgrade of the (non-main) partition of Win7 to Win10 (boot loader is osx). All went perfectly.

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        • L Lost User

          A similar thing happened to me. I was ill and penicillin cured me but I'm sure it was a fluke and I'm going back to herbal cures.

          Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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          Rajesh R Subramanian
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          That's an impressive argument you've put across. Someone wipes off their hard drive without any sort of backup or without having created a recovery media, which leaves them stranded (surprise, surprise). That surely sounds like a problem with Windows. Neat! :thumbsup:

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          • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

            raddevus wrote:

            I mean, I'm talking about Win10 getting something right

            So activating an OS buy moving your SSD to an other computer it's called 'right'? Aren't we a bit too low..

            Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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            Wastedtalent
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            Surprised Win 10 doesn't periodically check the license against hardware to prevent this.

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            • C Cristian Amarie

              Stopped working can be a million on things. There were issues with registration, upgrade to Win10? I installed 30 times last year and not a single one has failed. Especially a triple boot xubuntu/Windows 7 x64/Mac OS (hackintosh) and I was sweating during the upgrade of the (non-main) partition of Win7 to Win10 (boot loader is osx). All went perfectly.

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              Worried Brown Eyes
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              Wow - didn't it even mess up GRUB?

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              • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                raddevus wrote:

                She was back up and running in about 30 minutes. not bad.

                It may be a personal thing, but I find it tacky when people refer to inanimate things as she or he.

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                Nagy Vilmos
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                All vehicles are female in English. This stems from ships and has been applied to other forms of transport since. Interestingly, even if a ship has a male name, such as HMS Prince of Wales, it will still be female.

                veni bibi saltavi

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                • N Nagy Vilmos

                  All vehicles are female in English. This stems from ships and has been applied to other forms of transport since. Interestingly, even if a ship has a male name, such as HMS Prince of Wales, it will still be female.

                  veni bibi saltavi

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                  Rajesh R Subramanian
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                  Wow, I had no idea this was even a thing. Would you know why were ships assigned the female gender though?

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                  • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                    Wow, I had no idea this was even a thing. Would you know why were ships assigned the female gender though?

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                    Jochen Arndt
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                    Just Google it: Why is a ship a she? « Etymology « Glossophilia[^]. But there is no definite answer. It is traditional and the initial reason is not known for sure.

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                    • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                      Wow, I had no idea this was even a thing. Would you know why were ships assigned the female gender though?

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                      Nagy Vilmos
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                      Why is a ship always a'she'?:

                      A ship is called a "she" because there is always a great deal of bustle around her; there is usually a gang of men about, she has a waist and stays; it takes a lot of paint to keep her good looking; it is not the initial expense that breaks you, it is the upkeep; she can be all decked out; it takes an experienced man to handle her correctly; and without a man at the helm, she is absolutely uncontrollable. She shows her topsides, hides her bottom and when coming into port, always heads for the buoys."

                      Alternatively, the oft accepted answer is that it stems from the romance languages.

                      veni bibi saltavi

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                      • raddevusR raddevus

                        I previously mentioned (here : The Lounge[^] ) that my wife's laptop stopped working and it seemed as if it was because Win10 hadn't been activated on it. Like MS was trying to get our attention. Ubuntu To the Rescue She needed Internet access to do some work. I had previously downloaded Ubuntu 16.04 and created a bootable USB. I was able to boot off that USB key and install it to a old laptop drive that I put into her laptop. She was back up and running in about 30 minutes. not bad. Also, while she was running on that machine I had her SSD (with win10) loaded into another cheapo laptop and it booted up. I flipped the old laptop over and found the Win 7 product key and was able to register / activate Win10. I couldn't believe it worked. After that i put the SSD back in her laptop and now she's running fine. Can't beleive it all worked out. I mean, I'm talking about Win10 getting something right --- :wtf: Of course why it stopped working in the first place still seems a bit of a mystery. If Running Win10, Keep An Ubuntu USB Distro Available My suggestion is to build an Ubuntu USB bootable distro available if you're running Win10. That's the shortest path to get working again. That'll probably be Microsoft's stance soon too. :laugh:

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                        FWIW, Windows 10 can be activated with Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 keys. Once it's activated, you "shouldn't" need to enter it ever again when reinstalling Windows 10, even if you reformat/reinstall as, at that point, MS has generated a hardware fingerprint and knows what key is associated with it. Or at least something to that effect, according to Paul Thurrott.

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                        • L Lost User

                          Glad to see got it all working AND activated. :)

                          Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                          raddevus
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                          Thank you. Very nice. :)

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                          • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                            raddevus wrote:

                            She was back up and running in about 30 minutes. not bad.

                            It may be a personal thing, but I find it tacky when people refer to inanimate things as she or he.

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                            Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                            It may be a personal thing, but I find it tacky when people refer to inanimate things as she or he.

                            Well, since my wife _is_ a she I think I used appropriate language. I was referring to my wife being able to use the computer again. Not the computer being a she. And what if I were a native Spanish (or French) speaker...? Nouns have gender in those languages, you know? Spanish nouns - Wikipedia[^]

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                            • M Mark_Wallace

                              Wait, wait, wait a potton-kicking minute! Are you saying that all those jerks who, over the years, have immediately responded to windows-problem threads with "You should install linux!" were r1ght?!? Jeeze, what's the world coming to?

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              raddevus
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                              Mark_Wallace wrote:

                              over the years

                              Mark_Wallace wrote:

                              were r1ght?!?

                              No. Linux installs weren't so great in the past. But now... It's the year of the LINUX DESKTOP!!! :laugh:

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                              • raddevusR raddevus

                                Mark_Wallace wrote:

                                over the years

                                Mark_Wallace wrote:

                                were r1ght?!?

                                No. Linux installs weren't so great in the past. But now... It's the year of the LINUX DESKTOP!!! :laugh:

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                                And WINTER IS COMING!

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                • L Lost User

                                  A similar thing happened to me. I was ill and penicillin cured me but I'm sure it was a fluke and I'm going back to herbal cures.

                                  Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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                                  raddevus
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                                  That's funny! I agree with you... ...back to Win10. Until it crashes again and then I'll swap out the Ubuntu laptop. :laugh: You really are right, though.:thumbsup:

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                                  • P Peter_in_2780

                                    I'm using my "on the road" laptop. Dual boot, Ubuntu 16.04LTS and Win10. Partitioned the disk into 5 slices of various sizes. Windows gets C: and D:, Ubuntu gets / and /home and there is one shared. Oh and they can mount each others' partitions if I'm too lazy to move stuff to the shared one. But keepass lives there! Cheers, Peter

                                    Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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                                    raddevus
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                                    Very cool and very smart. :thumbsup: Best of both worlds!

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                                    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                      raddevus wrote:

                                      I mean, I'm talking about Win10 getting something right

                                      So activating an OS buy moving your SSD to an other computer it's called 'right'? Aren't we a bit too low..

                                      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                      raddevus
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                                      Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                                      So activating an OS buy moving your SSD to an other computer it's called 'right'?

                                      Haha, I had to read that sentence to think about it for a moment. That is quite a terrible end-user solution, right? M$ Tech support: "Okay, uninformed user, go and take the SSD out and find another laptop and drop it in there...Hello....Hello...Hmm... I think he hung up!?" :laugh:

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                                      • C Cristian Amarie

                                        Stopped working can be a million on things. There were issues with registration, upgrade to Win10? I installed 30 times last year and not a single one has failed. Especially a triple boot xubuntu/Windows 7 x64/Mac OS (hackintosh) and I was sweating during the upgrade of the (non-main) partition of Win7 to Win10 (boot loader is osx). All went perfectly.

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                                        I thought stopped working was very definitive answer. :laugh: You are right. Her PC also has Norton AntiVirus (the root of all problems) on it and it may have been causing a conflict. There was no reason that suddenly I could get to the Internet by dropping it in another laptop. I was just glad that I was lucky and things started working. Also glad that the registration process was relatively easy. I should've done that much earlier, but was lazy. :)

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                                        • D dandy72

                                          FWIW, Windows 10 can be activated with Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 keys. Once it's activated, you "shouldn't" need to enter it ever again when reinstalling Windows 10, even if you reformat/reinstall as, at that point, MS has generated a hardware fingerprint and knows what key is associated with it. Or at least something to that effect, according to Paul Thurrott.

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                                          raddevus
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                                          Good to know. Thanks. I was glad the registration process ended up being easier than I thought. I had previously forgotten that my Product keys were on the bottom of the laptops. Was glad when I remembered them and that they weren't worn off these really old laptops. :)

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