Googles search logic
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You are really surprised that Google (or any other company that does something in the internet) serves its own good and not yours?
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This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.Yup - Google's a charitable foundation. You, of course, send regular donations to keep it up and running. Sure it puts advertisers first - they're the ones who pay for Google. (Also why the EU isn't worthy of sucking a monkey's (kss) for trying to über-fine Google for doing what it's always done and never kept a secret. Nothing's free. Drink the Kool-Aide or brew your own. Nothing new here.
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"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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I noticed it too. Then I was (and still am) forced to use Bing for 5 years... Not even the worst Google can match the best Bing in crappiness.
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den2k88 wrote:
was (and still am) forced to use Bing
Why? How? I sometimes use something called ixquick - basically it's mostly add filtered google with privacy built in, but it also lacks suggestions. (Also doesn't always match google results, but it's refreshing having a search engine just return search results.) Sadly MS have broken bing just like every other product, with only the exceptions: 1. VS (excluding the installer which still auto installs without asking some extra crap), and, 2. SS (been a long while but I believe the DB is still OK, no idea if they broke the tools office though.) - but SS still a problem, somehow SS needs 387 things installed messing up the installed programs list, and wtf depends on what? Also needs around 236 processes running full time. I don't get that, mysql maybe lags a bit but needs only 1 installation and 1 process - easy to manage, easy to clean up.
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Has anyone noticed in the last few years that it has become utter crap? It ignores anything after the first two words, at best, and gives you the most popular links with those few words in them. Time to ditch it I think, its become useless.
Not sure about past few years, but lately the way it searches has definitely changed. I have noticed basically two things. 1. Previously it was matching all words to find a good match, so if you type required words in random order, it used to find links that may be a hit. NOW, it seem to matching with sentence and also applying some kind AI to infer what you are trying to search for. 2. Second, through my previous searches, it tries to find related link for this search. The first point is something I am not liking. As previously, I just have to type technical words for which I am facing problem and it gets all CP/SO links that contains those words. Now due to it's intelligence applied, I have to make sure the search phrase I type makes some sense, else it doesn't find good links. That's my opinion though ! :)
Thanks, Milind
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Yup - Google's a charitable foundation. You, of course, send regular donations to keep it up and running. Sure it puts advertisers first - they're the ones who pay for Google. (Also why the EU isn't worthy of sucking a monkey's (kss) for trying to über-fine Google for doing what it's always done and never kept a secret. Nothing's free. Drink the Kool-Aide or brew your own. Nothing new here.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Exactly what I meant. The consequence is that the search results are optimized towards more $$$ for Google, not to be more helpful for the user. Only the OP seems to be surprised by this.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
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Exactly what I meant. The consequence is that the search results are optimized towards more $$$ for Google, not to be more helpful for the user. Only the OP seems to be surprised by this.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.It's actually enlightened self interest on Google part. In order to maximize profits they need to maximize use. In order to maximize use they need to get the best possible responses and yet display the most relevant paid results. Ideally so relevant that users actually click-through. That's why they keep their ranking algorithms secret - the idea is to decide for themselves the balance with minimal interference from junk like link-farms and such.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Not sure about past few years, but lately the way it searches has definitely changed. I have noticed basically two things. 1. Previously it was matching all words to find a good match, so if you type required words in random order, it used to find links that may be a hit. NOW, it seem to matching with sentence and also applying some kind AI to infer what you are trying to search for. 2. Second, through my previous searches, it tries to find related link for this search. The first point is something I am not liking. As previously, I just have to type technical words for which I am facing problem and it gets all CP/SO links that contains those words. Now due to it's intelligence applied, I have to make sure the search phrase I type makes some sense, else it doesn't find good links. That's my opinion though ! :)
Thanks, Milind
MT_ wrote:
As previously, I just have to type technical words for which I am facing problem and it gets all CP/SO links that contains those words. Now due to it's intelligence applied, I have to make sure the search phrase I type makes some sense, else it doesn't find good links.
Yep, exactly that. It no longer searches on a load of technical words they have to be in a phrase google can understand, and get that wrong, and its useless.
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Try: "elephant sheep site:codeproject.com" it works even better!
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No no no, first result is a comment by Dalek Dave. It's confirmed, google is broken :laugh: The Lounge[^]
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Has anyone noticed in the last few years that it has become utter crap? It ignores anything after the first two words, at best, and gives you the most popular links with those few words in them. Time to ditch it I think, its become useless.
What are you going to use instead? I haven't noticed any difference. What exactly does it ignore? I did notice that it favors certain sites (like SO) and fails to block obnoxious scum sites (you know the type, the ones who hijack search results with fake hits) but other than that it beats the competition.
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Well if you search for THAT, what do you expect! ;)
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What are you going to use instead? I haven't noticed any difference. What exactly does it ignore? I did notice that it favors certain sites (like SO) and fails to block obnoxious scum sites (you know the type, the ones who hijack search results with fake hits) but other than that it beats the competition.
As I said if you put in a load of words, only the first few are used in the search, and phrase a question badly, and the results are useless. What else to use? DuckDuckGo, its good, and isnt spyware.
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*smut* :)
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*smut* :)
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den2k88 wrote:
was (and still am) forced to use Bing
Why? How? I sometimes use something called ixquick - basically it's mostly add filtered google with privacy built in, but it also lacks suggestions. (Also doesn't always match google results, but it's refreshing having a search engine just return search results.) Sadly MS have broken bing just like every other product, with only the exceptions: 1. VS (excluding the installer which still auto installs without asking some extra crap), and, 2. SS (been a long while but I believe the DB is still OK, no idea if they broke the tools office though.) - but SS still a problem, somehow SS needs 387 things installed messing up the installed programs list, and wtf depends on what? Also needs around 236 processes running full time. I don't get that, mysql maybe lags a bit but needs only 1 installation and 1 process - easy to manage, easy to clean up.
Sin tack ear lol Pressing the any key may be continuate
Lopatir wrote:
Why? How?
How: Google is not reachable from our network. Only a few MS sites and, after years of requests, CP and StackOverflow (due to the fact that MSDN, our only approved source of documentation, refers to these sites in its results). Why: because our management comes from the era of manual labour in the fields and manages a software house precisely in the same way, even calling programmers "the software labourers". Don't expect any grain of salt in their brains, ever.
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Welcome to the planet Earth. :-)
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.CDP1802 wrote:
Welcome to the planet Earth -- don't let the door hit your @rse on the way out.
Leaving sentences unfinished is just plain lazy.
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Same here, but I stopped using them because I got sick of all the requests for personal information, the nagging demands that I read the twice-weekly "policy updates", the incessant insistence that I downgrade to a browser I don't like, etc. If I want to talk to a buddy, I'll talk to a buddy. From a search engine, I only want search results.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Same here, but I stopped using them because I got sick of all the requests for personal information, the nagging demands that I read the twice-weekly "policy updates", the incessant insistence that I downgrade to a browser I don't like, etc. If I want to talk to a buddy, I'll talk to a buddy. From a search engine, I only want search results.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Try using it without having already giving them ownership of your life (e.g. without logging in to google+, youtube, etc).
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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CDP1802 wrote:
Welcome to the planet Earth -- don't let the door hit your @rse on the way out.
Leaving sentences unfinished is just plain lazy.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
And he's off! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Has anyone noticed in the last few years that it has become utter crap? It ignores anything after the first two words, at best, and gives you the most popular links with those few words in them. Time to ditch it I think, its become useless.
Use verbatim mode. It seems to give the same quality results as early google. There is a Chrome plugin to enable it all the time. Or you can click on 'Tools' -> 'Verbatim', but you can only get there after you search once. (Couldn't stand their results until I figured that out. Very friggin' annoying to have to search the search results!)
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Use verbatim mode. It seems to give the same quality results as early google. There is a Chrome plugin to enable it all the time. Or you can click on 'Tools' -> 'Verbatim', but you can only get there after you search once. (Couldn't stand their results until I figured that out. Very friggin' annoying to have to search the search results!)
My CodeProject Articles :: Our forgotten astronomic heritage :: My website.
"Sorry, buddy, but this mission counts on everyone being as silent as possible, and your farts are just too much of a wildcard." - Korra to Meelo, "Kuvira's Gambit"Useful tip, but given googles spyware functionality I will use DuckDuckGo from now on.
