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Hum,the retarded automated filter will be monitored by the unretard human moderator. The retarded automated filter should be refined more so that the unretard human moderator won't have intervention on the messages. This reduce conflict of interest when/how the messaged will be released by the unretarded moderator.
How? No seriously, how? This is a tech site, with a lot of questions and answers that require legitimate links and terms which often trigger detectors - things that social networking, or golfing sites don't have to worry about. The low incidence of "false positives" given the material posted is pretty good - but that's why it's a moderated system: if we gave the Ban Hammer to the automated system it would make our lives easier, yes. But then people like you would be kicked off for no good reason, which we all want to avoid. The spam detector is heuristic: it learns from what we reject, and what we accept - so the chances are that less of your posts will be sent to moderation in the future. In fact, none of your messages in this forum have been moderated as far as I know - and this forum is not excepted from the detection - so it seems to have caught on that you aren't that much of a threat already...
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Hum,the retarded automated filter will be monitored by the unretard human moderator. The retarded automated filter should be refined more so that the unretard human moderator won't have intervention on the messages. This reduce conflict of interest when/how the messaged will be released by the unretarded moderator.
Frankly, I'll take you being mildly inconvenienced over the absolute crapstorm we used to see with spammers flooding the lounge with a couple of hundred spam posts a minute. We had the situation where spammers were creating multiple accounts and posting multiple messages per account. Now, it takes 10 votes to remove a spammer. It also takes someone some small amount of time to post a link to the spammer - and to vote to remove each spam message in the forums. That's our time that's being wasted. Now contrast this with the fact that if the flood of messages is caught in the spam filter, we only have to create the report to the user - and we can mass reject the spam with a one click operation. You can possibly see why we, the people who actually have to deal with the deluge of crap, much prefer the system that makes our lives that little bit easier. Tell you what. Why don't you come up with a better spam handler if you think it's that easy? I'm sure that Chris and the team will be more than happy to use it if you can avoid these false negatives.
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Frankly, I'll take you being mildly inconvenienced over the absolute crapstorm we used to see with spammers flooding the lounge with a couple of hundred spam posts a minute. We had the situation where spammers were creating multiple accounts and posting multiple messages per account. Now, it takes 10 votes to remove a spammer. It also takes someone some small amount of time to post a link to the spammer - and to vote to remove each spam message in the forums. That's our time that's being wasted. Now contrast this with the fact that if the flood of messages is caught in the spam filter, we only have to create the report to the user - and we can mass reject the spam with a one click operation. You can possibly see why we, the people who actually have to deal with the deluge of crap, much prefer the system that makes our lives that little bit easier. Tell you what. Why don't you come up with a better spam handler if you think it's that easy? I'm sure that Chris and the team will be more than happy to use it if you can avoid these false negatives.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Why don't you come up with a better spam handler if you think it's that easy?
Ah, the sound of crickets chirping. :)
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Frankly, I'll take you being mildly inconvenienced over the absolute crapstorm we used to see with spammers flooding the lounge with a couple of hundred spam posts a minute. We had the situation where spammers were creating multiple accounts and posting multiple messages per account. Now, it takes 10 votes to remove a spammer. It also takes someone some small amount of time to post a link to the spammer - and to vote to remove each spam message in the forums. That's our time that's being wasted. Now contrast this with the fact that if the flood of messages is caught in the spam filter, we only have to create the report to the user - and we can mass reject the spam with a one click operation. You can possibly see why we, the people who actually have to deal with the deluge of crap, much prefer the system that makes our lives that little bit easier. Tell you what. Why don't you come up with a better spam handler if you think it's that easy? I'm sure that Chris and the team will be more than happy to use it if you can avoid these false negatives.
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Why don't you come up with a better spam handler
You seriously able to pay me for that solution. But the quickies and simple solution would be : Instead of marking the entire message title/content as "Message Removed", display the title/content but disable any suspicious links and explicit contents from the message. This action should only happen for few min or second and then any "unretard mentor" or human may come and enable/disable, remove the links even delete the message.
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How? No seriously, how? This is a tech site, with a lot of questions and answers that require legitimate links and terms which often trigger detectors - things that social networking, or golfing sites don't have to worry about. The low incidence of "false positives" given the material posted is pretty good - but that's why it's a moderated system: if we gave the Ban Hammer to the automated system it would make our lives easier, yes. But then people like you would be kicked off for no good reason, which we all want to avoid. The spam detector is heuristic: it learns from what we reject, and what we accept - so the chances are that less of your posts will be sent to moderation in the future. In fact, none of your messages in this forum have been moderated as far as I know - and this forum is not excepted from the detection - so it seems to have caught on that you aren't that much of a threat already...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I did. About 6 hours ago...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Why don't you come up with a better spam handler
You seriously able to pay me for that solution. But the quickies and simple solution would be : Instead of marking the entire message title/content as "Message Removed", display the title/content but disable any suspicious links and explicit contents from the message. This action should only happen for few min or second and then any "unretard mentor" or human may come and enable/disable, remove the links even delete the message.
Member 12682271 wrote:
disable any suspicious links and explicit contents
I'm curious as to how one would automatically detect suspicious links and explicit content. And if we could detect messages with suspicious links and explicit content, why wouldn't we simply quarantine it as a whole for a few minutes?
cheers Chris Maunder
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I did. About 6 hours ago...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Member 12682271 wrote:
disable any suspicious links and explicit contents
I'm curious as to how one would automatically detect suspicious links and explicit content. And if we could detect messages with suspicious links and explicit content, why wouldn't we simply quarantine it as a whole for a few minutes?
cheers Chris Maunder
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suspicious links and explicit content
if the auto filter thinks the posted content has those suspicious or explicit content(it might not be) then do the solution that I provided instead of marking and displaying "Message Removed". If its really is suspicious or explicit then remove or quarantine it.
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suspicious links and explicit content
if the auto filter thinks the posted content has those suspicious or explicit content(it might not be) then do the solution that I provided instead of marking and displaying "Message Removed". If its really is suspicious or explicit then remove or quarantine it.
Member 12682271 wrote:
If its really is suspicious or explicit then remove or quarantine it
We do quarantine it. It goes into moderation. I've also updated the message that's displayed on moderated posts to say "Message in moderation" to make it clearer.
cheers Chris Maunder
