Do you still like to code?
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The thread below about programming books got me thinking about how much I still love to code even though I don't do as much as I used to at work (busy herding cats people) but still play with the new stuff in my own time. However, if I know I have some coding to do at work, I still get excited and can't wait to start. And that's after nearly thirty years of doing the job. Do you still love your job or are you getting jaded? I think JSOP is given his earlier post! :-)
Yes, I like to code. Not always so much at work, you have legacy code, simple code and code that comes nowhere near the quality you may expect from a professional team, but of course there are also the fun projects. In my own time I love coding! When I got a good project, like arrgh.js, I can't wait to get home and start coding, sometimes until well in the night. And then there are times when I just rather slack on the couch and do nothing :)
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote:
[SMUGFACE] I walk to work - 15 minutes each way. :) [/SMUGFACE]
[EVENSMUGGERFACE] So do I - 15 seconds each way. :) [/EVENSMUGGERFACE]
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The thread below about programming books got me thinking about how much I still love to code even though I don't do as much as I used to at work (busy herding cats people) but still play with the new stuff in my own time. However, if I know I have some coding to do at work, I still get excited and can't wait to start. And that's after nearly thirty years of doing the job. Do you still love your job or are you getting jaded? I think JSOP is given his earlier post! :-)
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The thread below about programming books got me thinking about how much I still love to code even though I don't do as much as I used to at work (busy herding cats people) but still play with the new stuff in my own time. However, if I know I have some coding to do at work, I still get excited and can't wait to start. And that's after nearly thirty years of doing the job. Do you still love your job or are you getting jaded? I think JSOP is given his earlier post! :-)
I still love to code - and I've been coding for almost thirty years now. I've marked the beginning as the day when I first got a lime colored hot-air balloon to move across a blue background; I can still remember sitting on the floor in front of a 26" tv, copying the instructions from the C=64 user's manual. Those numbers were magic, and I took the bait... hook, line and sinker. Not many days after there were a plethora of things that I could move across the screen and in different colors too! So, the last thirty years I've been doing what I love, and the last fifteen with the added benefit of a monthly salary.
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote:
[SMUGFACE] I walk to work - 15 minutes each way. :) [/SMUGFACE]
[EVENSMUGGERFACE] So do I - 15 seconds each way. :) [/EVENSMUGGERFACE]
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I used to lease office space a 15 minute drive from home, couldn't stand it. Going out into the cold in the winter, wasting 30 minutes of my evening driving to and from the office if a client had an emergency or a server was having issues, having to put on clothes on days that I didn't need to see anyone...it was all very annoying and inefficient. Did that for 3 years until I found the perfect live/work setup for me and the business...now I roll out of bed, put on a robe, walk 20 ft to the front office and usually spend the rest of my day like that. Awesome.
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I only complain when there appears to be human-induced persistence with regards to screw ups.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I only complain when there appears to be human-induced persistence with regards to screw ups.
Like Jeremy said, you complain a lot! ;P
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The thread below about programming books got me thinking about how much I still love to code even though I don't do as much as I used to at work (busy herding cats people) but still play with the new stuff in my own time. However, if I know I have some coding to do at work, I still get excited and can't wait to start. And that's after nearly thirty years of doing the job. Do you still love your job or are you getting jaded? I think JSOP is given his earlier post! :-)
I started programming in 1969 and ended up as an Analyst but my true love was, and still is, coding (from my own design). I look on programming as an art. I love to see well thought out and efficient code. I am now 71 years old, retired but still programming (learning C#) to keep the little grey cells active. I will stop programming when I am in my box.
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Still love it. If you don't love what you do, you are in the wrong job. You spend 1/3rd of your life asleep. You spend 1/3 at work (or more, if the company can get you to), you spend much of the rest getting to and from work (and generally paying a small fortune for the privilege). If you aren't loving it ...
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My commute consists of descending into the basement to the luxurious Embedded Developer Office Suite. Maybe 30 seconds each way, and that makes this one of the best jobs I ever had, especially when it's -5 and snowing outside. I can work in a nice place to live (Nebraska) instead of some tech ghetto like California or Arizona. If an idea wakes me up at 3am I can head right to the keyboard to capture it, and if I'm brain dead at 2pm I can take a break to watch some awful TV show on Youtube (ever watch those Belarussian military TV mini-series?). My job is about 75% software, 25% hardware so I get a much-needed break from coding every now and then. Yes, I still like to code, but I also like designing the controller board I'g going to program. It's always a challenge to optimize the hardware layout to best advantage for the firmware. Only down side is testing for all those edge cases that show up in embedded designs, like batteries suddenly failing when it's only -40 outside, or the solar cell ices up and battery charger shuts down. I am isolated, no co-workers sitting next to me in cubicles, but that's equally good and bad. Skype and Slack takes up some of the, err, slack in socializing and talking out problems. The team is diverse and spread out across North America but we do have good communications and keep in touch daily. Management works hard to limit meetings to a minimum for those actually producing, and that's a big plus too. I can go all day in the coding zone without interruptions. After some 40+ years writing software and laying out circuit boards I would never do anything else. Not sure I'd feel the same way writing web pages to sell shoes, but even e-commerce websites have their place in improving society. Jack Peacock
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Still love it. If you don't love what you do, you are in the wrong job. You spend 1/3rd of your life asleep. You spend 1/3 at work (or more, if the company can get you to), you spend much of the rest getting to and from work (and generally paying a small fortune for the privilege). If you aren't loving it ...
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I have consistently refused "advancements" into project management and other shit I'm not good at. So yes, I am coding and I LOVE coding. The old stuff, the new stuff, the bleeding edge stuff... all the stuff. And I'm 54, and have been coding for 35 years. Salary? Yeah, it's a lot lower than it would have been if I had accepted the suggestions to go the management path. But do you know what? I fall asleep smiling every night.
Amen, brother! I'll be 56 this year and I have about the same number of years of coding in my history as well. I'm sure I'll be a coding fool until they pry the keyboard from my cold, dead hands. :)
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The thread below about programming books got me thinking about how much I still love to code even though I don't do as much as I used to at work (busy herding cats people) but still play with the new stuff in my own time. However, if I know I have some coding to do at work, I still get excited and can't wait to start. And that's after nearly thirty years of doing the job. Do you still love your job or are you getting jaded? I think JSOP is given his earlier post! :-)
If you don't enjoy programming, try getting stuck in a retail job for a few years. It'll make even the most humble select statement a joy.
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The thread below about programming books got me thinking about how much I still love to code even though I don't do as much as I used to at work (busy herding cats people) but still play with the new stuff in my own time. However, if I know I have some coding to do at work, I still get excited and can't wait to start. And that's after nearly thirty years of doing the job. Do you still love your job or are you getting jaded? I think JSOP is given his earlier post! :-)
I do. I find it relaxing and satisfying. To be able to build things virtually before your eyes knowing first at the end that it works, and many times after that someone will use it and make their lives better is a great feeling.
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The thread below about programming books got me thinking about how much I still love to code even though I don't do as much as I used to at work (busy herding cats people) but still play with the new stuff in my own time. However, if I know I have some coding to do at work, I still get excited and can't wait to start. And that's after nearly thirty years of doing the job. Do you still love your job or are you getting jaded? I think JSOP is given his earlier post! :-)
Interesting question, phrased as is. Is it really the coding that people enjoy? For me, I'm still interested in the problem solving aspect. Actual coding, which framework we use, blah, blah, blah, not so much. It's fun to learn some of these newer tools and use them, but ultimately, the code is just a way to execute the problem solution. The design of which is the actually interesting part of this job. Well, maybe not this job, more in a more general sense... ;)
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The thread below about programming books got me thinking about how much I still love to code even though I don't do as much as I used to at work (busy herding cats people) but still play with the new stuff in my own time. However, if I know I have some coding to do at work, I still get excited and can't wait to start. And that's after nearly thirty years of doing the job. Do you still love your job or are you getting jaded? I think JSOP is given his earlier post! :-)
I have been writing code since I was 13. Now 33 years later I still love to code.
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I still love to code - and I've been coding for almost thirty years now. I've marked the beginning as the day when I first got a lime colored hot-air balloon to move across a blue background; I can still remember sitting on the floor in front of a 26" tv, copying the instructions from the C=64 user's manual. Those numbers were magic, and I took the bait... hook, line and sinker. Not many days after there were a plethora of things that I could move across the screen and in different colors too! So, the last thirty years I've been doing what I love, and the last fifteen with the added benefit of a monthly salary.
That's exactly what got me hooked. Pretty sure I bought it from Radio Shack.
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Interesting question, phrased as is. Is it really the coding that people enjoy? For me, I'm still interested in the problem solving aspect. Actual coding, which framework we use, blah, blah, blah, not so much. It's fun to learn some of these newer tools and use them, but ultimately, the code is just a way to execute the problem solution. The design of which is the actually interesting part of this job. Well, maybe not this job, more in a more general sense... ;)
agolddog wrote:
Is it really the coding that people enjoy?
For me, yes. I like the problem solving but I love crafting something new where nothing existed before that solves that problem and does so in an elegant and efficient manner.
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The thread below about programming books got me thinking about how much I still love to code even though I don't do as much as I used to at work (busy herding cats people) but still play with the new stuff in my own time. However, if I know I have some coding to do at work, I still get excited and can't wait to start. And that's after nearly thirty years of doing the job. Do you still love your job or are you getting jaded? I think JSOP is given his earlier post! :-)
I would say that I still like to code, but I don't like it in the way that I used to. For the longest time my favorite movie was WarGames (and it's still on my list). That movie emphasized how cool and mysterious computers were at the time. Computers couldn't really do much back then, but that's what made them so accessible and fun. To program a computer, you had to understand computers. You had to know what was going on with bits and bytes and graphics adapters and protocols and whatnot, but those were all little things that you could grasp and play around with. But it created an intimacy between man and machine. Even high-level languages like BASIC felt rudimentary enough to represent the binary structure of a computer. These days everything is abstracted. Every abstraction is abstracted. These days you can go your entire career, for example, knowing nothing more than Javascript, CSS and HTML. Sure, there's lots more to learn, but you generally don't need to learn it unless you're the main developer on a large project. These days computers are complex, networks are complex. No one can possibly know more than a fraction of it. These days there isn't enough time to play around with everything to really understand it because there's so much to understand. I miss the simplicity of older times. It's like college. I loved college. It was so different from high school. I had more freedom. I discovered that there was so much more to this world than I had realized. College was very exciting...when I was 18. I've gone back to college a few times to take a course here and there. The magic isn't there anymore because I am a different person. It's disappointing, but it's okay because as a different person I understand more and I am a better student. So now I am a career developer. Now I face the challenge of professional growth. It isn't enough to track down a bug; I need to make my code as bug-free as possible with every single release. It isn't enough to deliver on a project; I need to make code as efficient and manageable as possible with every line I write. So I miss the simplicity and mystery of what computers used to be. But as computers have grown, so have I, and the challenges continue to present themselves. I definitely still enjoy that.
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote:
[SMUGFACE] I walk to work - 15 minutes each way. :) [/SMUGFACE]
[EVENSMUGGERFACE] So do I - 15 seconds each way. :) [/EVENSMUGGERFACE]
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OriginalGriff wrote:
[EVENSMUGGERFACE] So do I - 15 seconds each way. :) [/EVENSMUGGERFACE]
Sorry for you... sounds like you 'work from home'... if not properly managed that 15 seconds can be much to close for comfort.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
[EVENSMUGGERFACE] So do I - 15 seconds each way. :) [/EVENSMUGGERFACE]
Sorry for you... sounds like you 'work from home'... if not properly managed that 15 seconds can be much to close for comfort.
Nah. I used to work 35 miles from home; worse I lived in Hampshire, and worked inside the M25 (the London orbital motorway). Which meant that I had to fight traffic each way every day as I went with the flow of commuters heading into London. Those 35 miles took an hour on a good day (on a motorbike, a car would have doubled it): but all it ever took was some moron to do something stupid and that would easily double. And there were a lot of morons. So to be sure of getting in for 09:00, I left home at 07:00. Which meant the alarm went off at 05:00. And in those days, I was drinking a lot (partly to relax after I got home, partly I was under huge amounts of stress without even knowing it) - so I had to average 8 hours sleep a day, which meant I was in bed by 10 or earlier. My "me time" was working out at a couple of hours a week, and most of that was taken up with shopping, mowing, cleaning, and related cr@p. OK, I earned a lot of money - but I spent a lot of it on travelling as well! And I made nowhere near as much as my efforts earned the company, not by several orders of magnitude. Now? I work when I want, how I want. I hardly drink at all, I sleep 5 to 7 hours a night, and I am unstressed. I enjoy what I do, rather than doing it because it needs to be done. Work / Life balance is important. But I prefer to load the "life" part, rather than the "work" part.
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