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  • R Rajesh R Subramanian

    Once imagined, certain things cannot be un-imagined. :((

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    Sorry. :laugh:

    In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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    • CPalliniC CPallini

      I've done that. They sent me home immediately.

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      Rage
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      We warned you that you should first wait for them to ask for the pictures before sending any.

      Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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      • V virang_21

        I need to provide a picture of my desk and chair at home along with 2 page long form before I can be granted a right to work from home ( This implies that whenever I work from home I have to sit at that desk on that very chair ). That is the new policy decided by culture council. :sigh:

        Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.

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        Rahul Rajat Singh
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        How silly. One could get such a picture from anywhere. Incomplete solution it is. The complete solution would be: 1. Provide a Rental/Lease/Ownership agreement containing the address for your home. 2. Search that address in maps and attach screenshots clearly showing the Lat-Long for the house. 3. While taking picture ensure that GPS tagging of picture is enabled. 4. Two witnesses clearly visible in the picture along with a declaration that they will be held accountable if the pic was not taken at home. 5. Specification of lock on the door so that the kids and wife can be kept out of the room while working from home. There you have the complete solution. Please propose this to the respective team. Tell them - Either this or nothing.

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        • D den2k88

          So that's the trick, all I need is a selfie stick!

          DURA LEX, SED LEX GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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          Must resist the urge to say something not Kid Sister Safe

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          • V virang_21

            I need to provide a picture of my desk and chair at home along with 2 page long form before I can be granted a right to work from home ( This implies that whenever I work from home I have to sit at that desk on that very chair ). That is the new policy decided by culture council. :sigh:

            Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.

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            Pom Pey3
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            I can work from home at my current place. When we ring in to say we are working from home it's generally accepted that this is a code for "I'm too hungover to come into work today, I'm going back to bed and may answer some emails when I wake-up". Nobody expects us to actually work. I'm so going to miss this place. :sigh:

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            • CPalliniC CPallini

              I've done that. They sent me home immediately.

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              Pom Pey3
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              CPallini wrote:

              They sent me home immediately.

              To get some more?

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              • S Slacker007

                Sounds like you are complaining about a simple request. Take the damn picture, shut up about it, and enjoy working from home. Also, I work from home full-time...I took the picture. :)

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                Albert Holguin
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                The question is.... were you or were you not wearing pants when you took the picture of your desk? ;P :laugh:

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                • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                  Labor laws in Australia require that an employer provide the employees a safe workplace. By allowing you to work from home, they're burdened with the responsibility of ensuring that your setup at home is safe. At least to an extent that you won't cause yourself some sort of injury (RSI?) while working from home. They'd possibly be looking at desk height, ergonomics of the chair, etc. and see if you have a comfortable keyboard and mouse if you're going to use a laptop for extended periods of time. Remember that if you injure yourself while working from home, they're responsible for that as you were working for them at the time. I think very little is being asked of you in exchange for the freedom of working from home. Remember - your employer has FAR better things to do (like making money) than ensuring you'll work safely at home. Nobody is forcing you to fill those forms - you could do them if you'd like to work from home, or go to work every day. It's not a right, but a privilege to work from home, so quit whining at once.

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                  Albert Holguin
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                  Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                  Nobody is forcing you to fill those forms - you could do them if you'd like to work from home, or go to work every day. It's not a right, but a privilege to work from home, so quit whining at once.

                  :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

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                  • A Albert Holguin

                    The question is.... were you or were you not wearing pants when you took the picture of your desk? ;P :laugh:

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                    Slacker007
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                    :-D Yes

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                    • R Rahul Rajat Singh

                      How silly. One could get such a picture from anywhere. Incomplete solution it is. The complete solution would be: 1. Provide a Rental/Lease/Ownership agreement containing the address for your home. 2. Search that address in maps and attach screenshots clearly showing the Lat-Long for the house. 3. While taking picture ensure that GPS tagging of picture is enabled. 4. Two witnesses clearly visible in the picture along with a declaration that they will be held accountable if the pic was not taken at home. 5. Specification of lock on the door so that the kids and wife can be kept out of the room while working from home. There you have the complete solution. Please propose this to the respective team. Tell them - Either this or nothing.

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                      Slacker007
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                      I appreciate your attention to detail and your thoroughness. :thumbsup:

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                      • P Pom Pey3

                        I can work from home at my current place. When we ring in to say we are working from home it's generally accepted that this is a code for "I'm too hungover to come into work today, I'm going back to bed and may answer some emails when I wake-up". Nobody expects us to actually work. I'm so going to miss this place. :sigh:

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                        Pom Pey3 wrote:

                        I'm so going to miss this place.

                        Moving to Mexico for good?

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                        • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                          Labor laws in Australia require that an employer provide the employees a safe workplace. By allowing you to work from home, they're burdened with the responsibility of ensuring that your setup at home is safe. At least to an extent that you won't cause yourself some sort of injury (RSI?) while working from home. They'd possibly be looking at desk height, ergonomics of the chair, etc. and see if you have a comfortable keyboard and mouse if you're going to use a laptop for extended periods of time. Remember that if you injure yourself while working from home, they're responsible for that as you were working for them at the time. I think very little is being asked of you in exchange for the freedom of working from home. Remember - your employer has FAR better things to do (like making money) than ensuring you'll work safely at home. Nobody is forcing you to fill those forms - you could do them if you'd like to work from home, or go to work every day. It's not a right, but a privilege to work from home, so quit whining at once.

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                          virang_21
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                          I don't mind providing the picture. I find the whole thing rather unusual as there is nothing that will prevent me from not using that desk while working from home. I might as well work from my bedroom. I am laughing at the stupidity of law makers that think just because one has provided evidence of desk that one is always going to use it. And when you are traveling interstate and say you work from plane between your journey do I need to take picture of plane seats or airport lounge ? I mean how stupid the whole thing sounds when you think logically.

                          Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.

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                          • V virang_21

                            I don't mind providing the picture. I find the whole thing rather unusual as there is nothing that will prevent me from not using that desk while working from home. I might as well work from my bedroom. I am laughing at the stupidity of law makers that think just because one has provided evidence of desk that one is always going to use it. And when you are traveling interstate and say you work from plane between your journey do I need to take picture of plane seats or airport lounge ? I mean how stupid the whole thing sounds when you think logically.

                            Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.

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                            Rajesh R Subramanian
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                            As I said in my response to Griff, they *could* come unannounced, in person, on a random day, when you're working from home, to ensure that your setup is what you claim it to be. If found otherwise, they could stop you from working from home that point onwards (which is fair).

                            virang_21 wrote:

                            I am laughing at the stupidity of law makers that think just because one has provided evidence of desk that one is always going to use it.

                            They're doing this only because the law requires them to ensure your safety. Yes, you could send them a photo of a nice ergonomic setup and work from home by sitting on your roof instead. But then if you fall down from the roof and break a limb or two, they're not required to care for you as you lied to them about your work setup (you've signed a document). This shrives them from any problems arising out of your injury and you can't file some kind of a lawsuit against them claiming negligence in workplace safety. You could then go onto the public healthcare system's waiting list to stitch your arse back together and wait for an undetermined amount of time. In this case, your employer would be the one laughing at your stupidity.

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                            traveling interstate and say you work from plane between your journey do I need to take picture of plane seats or

                            Just by being on that plane, you're already working because your work is to get yourself to someplace else. I don't think you're legally required to setup your laptop on the food tray and do some debugging. It is your problem if you did so without seeking your employer's expressed consent, which involves filling out forms and sending them photos. In reality, they don't truthfully care if you sit on a floatation device in the pool and work so long as they don't have to deal with it if you get electrocuted.

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                              Pom Pey3 wrote:

                              I'm so going to miss this place.

                              Moving to Mexico for good?

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                              Pom Pey3
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                              The work is yes. I'm not no. They're closing UK in March so will be out of work. I use to work flexi hours anyway, so I could take the kids to school, but since theyve announced this I've been turning up when I want. They've got rid of all my Malaysians and English so I'm now in charge of a team based solely in Maexico. And they dont start till 2pm my time, so, in my opinion but not my boses, I dont really need to be here that early. :laugh: Last night we had a lock in at the pub, didnt get home till just before 3am. Rolled into work at 11.30am. Just dont know how I'm going to cope in my next job which is going to expect me in the same time everyday. I haven't even set an alarm clock for 7 years. When people I don't work with ask me what time I start work? They don't believe me when I say an hour after I wake-up. Buts it true.

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