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Do any of you use a MAC to program?
Leadership equals wrecked ship. If you think you are leading my look behind you. You are alone. If you think I am leading you, You are lost.
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Do any of you use a MAC to program?
Leadership equals wrecked ship. If you think you are leading my look behind you. You are alone. If you think I am leading you, You are lost.
Yep.. I use the following tools: - XCode (Swift for iOS) - Xamarin Studio - JetBrains Rider (ASP.NET Core) - JetBrains WebStorm (for Angular 2 mostly) Most of it works on Linux and Windows as well, with the exception of XCode :)
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
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\*sniff sniff*\ Devs never use any type of computer. We're all so rad we just set the bits manually using very small magnets.:cool:
veni bibi saltavi
I prefer the hex keyboard, CPU in load mode, no software involved.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns. -
I prefer the hex keyboard, CPU in load mode, no software involved.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.My first job, we had a mini that could be programed from the flip switches on the front. There were some jobs that it was just easier to do with that then fire up terminals et al. :-D
veni bibi saltavi
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Do any of you use a MAC to program?
Leadership equals wrecked ship. If you think you are leading my look behind you. You are alone. If you think I am leading you, You are lost.
No, because I'm not a hippy.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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Do any of you use a MAC to program?
Leadership equals wrecked ship. If you think you are leading my look behind you. You are alone. If you think I am leading you, You are lost.
I don't develop for Appke devices so no. If I had to I'd use it - its better to have a feel of the OS your SW wuill be running on.
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\*sniff sniff*\ Devs never use any type of computer. We're all so rad we just set the bits manually using very small magnets.:cool:
veni bibi saltavi
And a compass to read them back!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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My first job, we had a mini that could be programed from the flip switches on the front. There were some jobs that it was just easier to do with that then fire up terminals et al. :-D
veni bibi saltavi
The original model indeed also had switches. The hex keyboard was an improvement. Internally, both connected in the same way and both could be used in 'load mode' or accessed as input ports when running the program. Edit: Let me Leslie my picture from last week.[^]
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns. -
And a compass to read them back!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
Forget it. In the first lecture I ever heard the professor decided to start with something simple and proved the existence of magnetic monopoles[^] (Please no jokes that might discriminate someone from Poland!) Anyway, you will not get far with a compass when we use those monopoles.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns. -
No, because I'm not a hippy.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013:laugh:
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Forget it. In the first lecture I ever heard the professor decided to start with something simple and proved the existence of magnetic monopoles[^] (Please no jokes that might discriminate someone from Poland!) Anyway, you will not get far with a compass when we use those monopoles.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.Yeah, but that's all quantum, so I'd just need a lot smaller compass.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Do any of you use a MAC to program?
Leadership equals wrecked ship. If you think you are leading my look behind you. You are alone. If you think I am leading you, You are lost.
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Do any of you use a MAC to program?
Leadership equals wrecked ship. If you think you are leading my look behind you. You are alone. If you think I am leading you, You are lost.
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Yep.. I use the following tools: - XCode (Swift for iOS) - Xamarin Studio - JetBrains Rider (ASP.NET Core) - JetBrains WebStorm (for Angular 2 mostly) Most of it works on Linux and Windows as well, with the exception of XCode :)
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
Had to do a quick and dirty port of a .Net prog to Mac - one time demo. Figured ok, build a Mac VM (max 15 minute job for a VPC). What a nightmare, fart around trying magic and incantations to get the VM to work, then try to install xcode and xamarin, sorry this version needs that version - gives version umbers but when you look for it it's all sorts of stupid names like "Mountain Duck" and "Ill Clapitrap." Unlike Win, finding an older versions for the mac is, well, it simply isn't. And joining their store thing, what a forking forkup of forking forks that is, they want to take over your life, own your email and contacts, own your phone even if it's droid, and sign you up to 1000 mailing lists every second screen, and then still install a boatload of shit on your PC... FFS fork that! OK, find matching versions of OS and bits required, start over, (build new vm...) still a good full day to get it dev functional. Finally got the app running on the VM, but still have to jump through hoops and straighten a carton of banana's to get it to function on the friends native mac, some sort of app wrapper required so you can install something you can double click on, plus runtime machine needs xcode installed (which doesn't add it to the path), blah, blah, bloody blah.... (In the end wrote a quick shell script and asked my friend to install xcode and run the app via file manager in his email attachments folder.) Quick and dirty job on a mac: all up 4 days and literally a headache (windows equivalent: 4 minutes, maybe 10 min on a bad day). Admittedly I was just seat of the pantsing it, and trying to take shortcuts - didn't help, it's do it the apple way, or do it the apple way. So much for xamarin being the magic making '.net easily portable'; porting .net apps developed on windows to the mac: as simple as house training a canary using the same methods used to house train a dog.
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Do any of you use a MAC to program?
Leadership equals wrecked ship. If you think you are leading my look behind you. You are alone. If you think I am leading you, You are lost.
I asked about using a MAC because a developer I know uses MAC. He thinks that most developers use MAC which I can not imagine that it would be that common. I'm a .NET guy so I would not have any desire to use MAC, but it can be done I'm told.
Leadership equals wrecked ship. If you think you are leading my look behind you. You are alone. If you think I am leading you, You are lost.
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Had to do a quick and dirty port of a .Net prog to Mac - one time demo. Figured ok, build a Mac VM (max 15 minute job for a VPC). What a nightmare, fart around trying magic and incantations to get the VM to work, then try to install xcode and xamarin, sorry this version needs that version - gives version umbers but when you look for it it's all sorts of stupid names like "Mountain Duck" and "Ill Clapitrap." Unlike Win, finding an older versions for the mac is, well, it simply isn't. And joining their store thing, what a forking forkup of forking forks that is, they want to take over your life, own your email and contacts, own your phone even if it's droid, and sign you up to 1000 mailing lists every second screen, and then still install a boatload of shit on your PC... FFS fork that! OK, find matching versions of OS and bits required, start over, (build new vm...) still a good full day to get it dev functional. Finally got the app running on the VM, but still have to jump through hoops and straighten a carton of banana's to get it to function on the friends native mac, some sort of app wrapper required so you can install something you can double click on, plus runtime machine needs xcode installed (which doesn't add it to the path), blah, blah, bloody blah.... (In the end wrote a quick shell script and asked my friend to install xcode and run the app via file manager in his email attachments folder.) Quick and dirty job on a mac: all up 4 days and literally a headache (windows equivalent: 4 minutes, maybe 10 min on a bad day). Admittedly I was just seat of the pantsing it, and trying to take shortcuts - didn't help, it's do it the apple way, or do it the apple way. So much for xamarin being the magic making '.net easily portable'; porting .net apps developed on windows to the mac: as simple as house training a canary using the same methods used to house train a dog.
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Lopatir wrote:
Figured ok, build a Mac VM
There's your problem.. if you want to code on a Mac, get a Mac :laugh: I find MacOS the easiest to use out of all three OS's. Ubuntu it quite neat too, I like that a lot. I use Windows only when there's no other choice. I've been coding .NET on Windows since 2005 but really happy with the .NET Core route they're going down at the moment. Personally, I'll be glad when the day comes that I no longer need Windows.
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
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I asked about using a MAC because a developer I know uses MAC. He thinks that most developers use MAC which I can not imagine that it would be that common. I'm a .NET guy so I would not have any desire to use MAC, but it can be done I'm told.
Leadership equals wrecked ship. If you think you are leading my look behind you. You are alone. If you think I am leading you, You are lost.
Ygnaiih wrote:
but it can be done I'm told
Not only can it be done ([very easily](https://www.jetbrains.com/rider/)) it's the way Microsoft are heading.. [ASP.NET Core | The ASP.NET Site](https://www.asp.net/core)
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
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Lopatir wrote:
Figured ok, build a Mac VM
There's your problem.. if you want to code on a Mac, get a Mac :laugh: I find MacOS the easiest to use out of all three OS's. Ubuntu it quite neat too, I like that a lot. I use Windows only when there's no other choice. I've been coding .NET on Windows since 2005 but really happy with the .NET Core route they're going down at the moment. Personally, I'll be glad when the day comes that I no longer need Windows.
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
Brent Jenkins wrote:
There's your problem.. if you want to code on a Mac, get a Mac
Agree, but had less than a week and no budget (favor for a friend).
Brent Jenkins wrote:
Personally, I'll be glad when the day comes that I no longer need Windows.
Also agree, but the customer is king, and just as for the mac programming on the native box is the only choice. (Tried vm-ing windows from linux/freebsd but it was just a hassle as all of the paid work was on Windows, never enough time/chance/energy to work/play on the host so all it did was make boot times longer and bottleneck talking native to attached devices.)
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Brent Jenkins wrote:
There's your problem.. if you want to code on a Mac, get a Mac
Agree, but had less than a week and no budget (favor for a friend).
Brent Jenkins wrote:
Personally, I'll be glad when the day comes that I no longer need Windows.
Also agree, but the customer is king, and just as for the mac programming on the native box is the only choice. (Tried vm-ing windows from linux/freebsd but it was just a hassle as all of the paid work was on Windows, never enough time/chance/energy to work/play on the host so all it did was make boot times longer and bottleneck talking native to attached devices.)
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Lopatir wrote:
Tried vm-ing windows from linux/freebsd but it was just a hassle as all of the paid work was on Windows, never enough time/chance/energy to work/play on the host so all it did was make boot times longer and bottleneck talking native to attached devices.
I've found the same, hence why I've got a machine for each OS. Expensive, but I think it's the most practical (i.e. non-hacky) way and it encourages you to get used to using each OS rather than just falling back to what you're comfortable with :)
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
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Had to do a quick and dirty port of a .Net prog to Mac - one time demo. Figured ok, build a Mac VM (max 15 minute job for a VPC). What a nightmare, fart around trying magic and incantations to get the VM to work, then try to install xcode and xamarin, sorry this version needs that version - gives version umbers but when you look for it it's all sorts of stupid names like "Mountain Duck" and "Ill Clapitrap." Unlike Win, finding an older versions for the mac is, well, it simply isn't. And joining their store thing, what a forking forkup of forking forks that is, they want to take over your life, own your email and contacts, own your phone even if it's droid, and sign you up to 1000 mailing lists every second screen, and then still install a boatload of shit on your PC... FFS fork that! OK, find matching versions of OS and bits required, start over, (build new vm...) still a good full day to get it dev functional. Finally got the app running on the VM, but still have to jump through hoops and straighten a carton of banana's to get it to function on the friends native mac, some sort of app wrapper required so you can install something you can double click on, plus runtime machine needs xcode installed (which doesn't add it to the path), blah, blah, bloody blah.... (In the end wrote a quick shell script and asked my friend to install xcode and run the app via file manager in his email attachments folder.) Quick and dirty job on a mac: all up 4 days and literally a headache (windows equivalent: 4 minutes, maybe 10 min on a bad day). Admittedly I was just seat of the pantsing it, and trying to take shortcuts - didn't help, it's do it the apple way, or do it the apple way. So much for xamarin being the magic making '.net easily portable'; porting .net apps developed on windows to the mac: as simple as house training a canary using the same methods used to house train a dog.
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I have a copy of every OS for the Mac, including variants for the Power Computing Corp Macs. I used to work at Apple and took a "copy" of each when I left (once authorized accordingly). Thing is, though, I am not allowed to share them.
