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Le centriste wrote:
Sure Yes we can.
FTFY I am having a tiny déjà vu... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
Nelek wrote:
deja vou déjà vu
FTFY ;P
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Nelek wrote:
deja vou déjà vu
FTFY ;P
picky... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I noticed in the article they didn't mention that the refugees arrived on Australian shores - not American shores. It failed to mention that Australia "offshores" these folks (including many women and children) immediately and indefinitely to Pacific islands in horrible conditions and have been doing so for 15+ years. It didn't mention that many of the refugees are from Iraq (one of the countries on Trump's Obama's list of scary places). The article failed to mention why Australia or India or the UK or Canada or any other British Commonwealth country didn't take them in. I wonder why? :rolleyes:
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan
This one is really stupid, as Trump said, why in Ghu's blue heaven would the US take refugees from Oz. Some idjit made a deal with the US (idjits are on both sides) and Trump takes one look at it and throws it out. I may not like Trump (the man is vile) but I agree with some of his decisions and this is one. And yes Oz has a really bad rep for treatment of refugees however like many others I'm a NIMBY.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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If you're truly wise, you'll dig deeper in your understanding. If not, you'll repeat the same thing everyone else does. Your call.
Jeremy Falcon
Tcha, 4 minutes ago you were not going to give Celeste any ammunition for and argument and here you are feeding the troll. Thank Ghu some of you people just can't resist an argument it would be bloody boring here otherwise :laugh: .
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Tcha, 4 minutes ago you were not going to give Celeste any ammunition for and argument and here you are feeding the troll. Thank Ghu some of you people just can't resist an argument it would be bloody boring here otherwise :laugh: .
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
But, but, I'm getting better at it... which is another way of saying I may be getting more boring. :doh:
Jeremy Falcon
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But, but, I'm getting better at it... which is another way of saying I may be getting more boring. :doh:
Jeremy Falcon
You're just looking for an FB alternative...
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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You're just looking for an FB alternative...
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
I believe you are correct.
Jeremy Falcon
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And your foreigner opinions matter to whom, exactly?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Re the OP: Canada is a free country; they have just as much right to criticize the President of the US as USians do. :-\
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
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Weird, because from where I stand (as an INDEPENDENT) I've been labelled as a racist, sexist, islamaphobic, homophobic deplorable. Maybe if the left spend less time being intensely smug about their selective outrage and intellectual inconsistency, we can return to a situation where their ideas might be entertained by people that think with their heads. What do you think is going to happen when you treat thinking people like shit? We'll swallow the bitter pill rather than the poisonous one.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli
Nathan Minier wrote:
I've been labelled as a racist, sexist, islamaphobic, homophobic deplorable.
Well, are you? ;P But of course, you can't really answer that question. Nobody ever thinks any of those labels apply to them, only to other people. I'm sure even the most hardened KKK member will find a way to justify violence against non-white people that doesn't involve the term "racist". So without knowing exactly what you said, and seeing the context in which you said it, we have no way of knowing whether there was any truth to the accusations. But at least those labels are all for bad things. "Liberal Elite" / "libtard" seems to be the go-to insult thrown at people for caring about their fellow human beings. For having the audacity to think that all human beings should have equal rights (unless they do something particularly bad to forfeit them). I mean, it's not like anyone ever tried to found a nation on that principal, is it? :rolleyes:
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote:
If you're not an American citizen
Bingo - and it's not that they're "liberal elite", it's that their opinion doesn't f*ckin matter in the United States. At all. In the least. Ever.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
their opinion doesn't f*ckin matter in the United States. At all. In the least. Ever.
Which is fair enough, when you're talking about things that only affect the United States, and which don't involve human rights abuses. When you're talking about things that have a global impact, you can't expect the global community to remain silent. When you're talking about denying groups of people their human rights, you also can't expect us to just shut up and let you get on with it.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
their opinion doesn't f*ckin matter in the United States. At all. In the least. Ever.
Which is fair enough, when you're talking about things that only affect the United States, and which don't involve human rights abuses. When you're talking about things that have a global impact, you can't expect the global community to remain silent. When you're talking about denying groups of people their human rights, you also can't expect us to just shut up and let you get on with it.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
Richard Deeming wrote:
When you're talking about denying groups of people their human rights, you also can't expect us to just shut up and let you get on with it.
You're SO bent defending human rights that instead of writing on CP you're travelling far and wide in islamic countries defending the rights of the women to not having their genitalia mutilated, to choose their husbands in the age of consent... And of course you're travelling depp Africa to save albino kids from being sacrificed... :-\ Leberal elites are just people with too much money and time on their hands who like to be smug until all the other people are fed up and put them in their place.
CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "Go ahead, make my day"
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Richard Deeming wrote:
When you're talking about denying groups of people their human rights, you also can't expect us to just shut up and let you get on with it.
You're SO bent defending human rights that instead of writing on CP you're travelling far and wide in islamic countries defending the rights of the women to not having their genitalia mutilated, to choose their husbands in the age of consent... And of course you're travelling depp Africa to save albino kids from being sacrificed... :-\ Leberal elites are just people with too much money and time on their hands who like to be smug until all the other people are fed up and put them in their place.
CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "Go ahead, make my day"
So according to you, nobody is allowed to comment on, or object to, human rights abuses unless they've travelled to every country where those abuses are taking place? :doh: Just because people in other countries are being pricks, that doesn't mean it's OK for your leader to do the same.
den2k88 wrote:
Leberal elites are just people with too much money and time on their hands who like to be smug until all the other people are fed up and put them in their place.
A sentiment which I'm sure Benito Amilcare Andrea would agree with. If someone calls you out for abusing human rights, insult them, and then threaten to "come round and sort them out". :rolleyes:
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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So according to you, nobody is allowed to comment on, or object to, human rights abuses unless they've travelled to every country where those abuses are taking place? :doh: Just because people in other countries are being pricks, that doesn't mean it's OK for your leader to do the same.
den2k88 wrote:
Leberal elites are just people with too much money and time on their hands who like to be smug until all the other people are fed up and put them in their place.
A sentiment which I'm sure Benito Amilcare Andrea would agree with. If someone calls you out for abusing human rights, insult them, and then threaten to "come round and sort them out". :rolleyes:
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
Richard Deeming wrote:
So according to you, nobody is allowed to comment on, or object to, human rights abuses unless they've travelled to every country where those abuses are taking place?
I'm saying that doing the talk costs nothing, achieves nothing and is a subgroup of doing nothing, meaning it's... nothing.
Richard Deeming wrote:
A sentiment which I'm sure Benito Amilcare Andrea would agree with.
Absolutely, ricin oil and batons work miracles to make "smug leftists" reassess their priorities from politically correctness to actually defending human rights. BTW, it's liberals that from decades are pushing the idea that insulting is as much violence as as the physical one - given the huge amount of insults spat from the very same liberals to anyone who doesn't fully agree with them and applying the same logic... do the math. Also, the very same Benito "bungee-jumping" Amilcare Andrea started out as a liberal socialist and ended up censoring and beating... exactly like the new snowflake generation, which was grown up in a toxic concentration of politically correctness and lack of sensitivity towards real problems. Last times a situation like this happened, the very same snowflakes' heads rolled like pool balls in a pub on Saturday evening.
CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "Go ahead, make my day"
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Richard Deeming wrote:
So according to you, nobody is allowed to comment on, or object to, human rights abuses unless they've travelled to every country where those abuses are taking place?
I'm saying that doing the talk costs nothing, achieves nothing and is a subgroup of doing nothing, meaning it's... nothing.
Richard Deeming wrote:
A sentiment which I'm sure Benito Amilcare Andrea would agree with.
Absolutely, ricin oil and batons work miracles to make "smug leftists" reassess their priorities from politically correctness to actually defending human rights. BTW, it's liberals that from decades are pushing the idea that insulting is as much violence as as the physical one - given the huge amount of insults spat from the very same liberals to anyone who doesn't fully agree with them and applying the same logic... do the math. Also, the very same Benito "bungee-jumping" Amilcare Andrea started out as a liberal socialist and ended up censoring and beating... exactly like the new snowflake generation, which was grown up in a toxic concentration of politically correctness and lack of sensitivity towards real problems. Last times a situation like this happened, the very same snowflakes' heads rolled like pool balls in a pub on Saturday evening.
CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "Go ahead, make my day"
den2k88 wrote:
given the huge amount of insults spat from the very same liberals to anyone who doesn't fully agree with them
So you don't see a difference between insulting someone for doing something bad (eg: racism), and insulting someone for doing something good (eg: criticizing racism)?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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Nathan Minier wrote:
I've been labelled as a racist, sexist, islamaphobic, homophobic deplorable.
Well, are you? ;P But of course, you can't really answer that question. Nobody ever thinks any of those labels apply to them, only to other people. I'm sure even the most hardened KKK member will find a way to justify violence against non-white people that doesn't involve the term "racist". So without knowing exactly what you said, and seeing the context in which you said it, we have no way of knowing whether there was any truth to the accusations. But at least those labels are all for bad things. "Liberal Elite" / "libtard" seems to be the go-to insult thrown at people for caring about their fellow human beings. For having the audacity to think that all human beings should have equal rights (unless they do something particularly bad to forfeit them). I mean, it's not like anyone ever tried to found a nation on that principal, is it? :rolleyes:
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
Richard Deeming wrote:
Well, are you? ;-P
I know it's meant in jest, but as far as the society I live in is concerned I am: because I am a white male that isn't self-hating.
Richard Deeming wrote:
But at least those labels are all for bad things. "Liberal Elite" / "libtard" seems to be the go-to insult thrown at people for caring about their fellow human beings. For having the audacity to think that all human beings should have equal rights (unless they do something particularly bad to forfeit them).
I would think hard about how those words have become insults in the minds of so many. Seriously, the only people that see liberals as concerned about equality are other liberals. No one else does, because that's not how liberals act. The liberal approach (lately) seems to be to forgive and even encourage unconscionable violence and hatred in the name of being correct. I don't think it's hard to figure out what other groups fall in that bucket; you referenced one of them. Equality is an essential thing, but there is a difference between equality of circumstance and equality of result. Equality of circumstance is freedom, equality of result is slavery to the state. The liberal ideology ignores this distinction, and insists on everyone giving until we are all caught by the lowest common denominator, under the claim that it will raise that LCD. And it will, but this is where invention, innovation, and evolution go to die. Now the goal posts have move drastically over the last few years, and the primary problem with that is that those of the liberal bent cannot embrace victory, they continue to push the edge of the ideology further along the spectrum while keeping the bracket of inclusion the same size. You can't support some of the agenda and be embraced; you embrace the most radical ideas or you are not welcome. The ideas at this point include some concepts so mindbogglingly stupid that it is very easy to not be included in that bucket; and the language is tortured to the breaking point in attempts to justify policies that are callously used by the Democrat party(who clearly don't eat the shit they're shoveling) to mobilize targeted segments of the population. All the while the conservatives have not changed much, as is their nature. They also don't make much of an effort to hide it. Are they more worried about protecting their individual self-intere
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den2k88 wrote:
given the huge amount of insults spat from the very same liberals to anyone who doesn't fully agree with them
So you don't see a difference between insulting someone for doing something bad (eg: racism), and insulting someone for doing something good (eg: criticizing racism)?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
Richard Deeming wrote:
So you don't see a difference between insulting someone for doing something bad (eg: racism), and insulting someone for doing something good (eg: criticizing racism)?
I do, libs don't - in fact, at lest here in EU, they don't see the difference between shooting a bystander and shooting an invader. In Italy if I shoot defending myself in my home I get prosecuted for murder and have to pay the family of the deceased felon (or the felon if alive) for life... that's the core of this ideology. There is difference between blocking clandestine migrants and being xenophobic. Between punishing criminals and being oppressive. Between acknowledging differences and forcing the differences down the throats of everyone. But only the sane part of the population sees them, it seems.
CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "Go ahead, make my day"
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Richard Deeming wrote:
So you don't see a difference between insulting someone for doing something bad (eg: racism), and insulting someone for doing something good (eg: criticizing racism)?
I do, libs don't - in fact, at lest here in EU, they don't see the difference between shooting a bystander and shooting an invader. In Italy if I shoot defending myself in my home I get prosecuted for murder and have to pay the family of the deceased felon (or the felon if alive) for life... that's the core of this ideology. There is difference between blocking clandestine migrants and being xenophobic. Between punishing criminals and being oppressive. Between acknowledging differences and forcing the differences down the throats of everyone. But only the sane part of the population sees them, it seems.
CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "Go ahead, make my day"
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Richard Deeming wrote:
Well, are you? ;-P
I know it's meant in jest, but as far as the society I live in is concerned I am: because I am a white male that isn't self-hating.
Richard Deeming wrote:
But at least those labels are all for bad things. "Liberal Elite" / "libtard" seems to be the go-to insult thrown at people for caring about their fellow human beings. For having the audacity to think that all human beings should have equal rights (unless they do something particularly bad to forfeit them).
I would think hard about how those words have become insults in the minds of so many. Seriously, the only people that see liberals as concerned about equality are other liberals. No one else does, because that's not how liberals act. The liberal approach (lately) seems to be to forgive and even encourage unconscionable violence and hatred in the name of being correct. I don't think it's hard to figure out what other groups fall in that bucket; you referenced one of them. Equality is an essential thing, but there is a difference between equality of circumstance and equality of result. Equality of circumstance is freedom, equality of result is slavery to the state. The liberal ideology ignores this distinction, and insists on everyone giving until we are all caught by the lowest common denominator, under the claim that it will raise that LCD. And it will, but this is where invention, innovation, and evolution go to die. Now the goal posts have move drastically over the last few years, and the primary problem with that is that those of the liberal bent cannot embrace victory, they continue to push the edge of the ideology further along the spectrum while keeping the bracket of inclusion the same size. You can't support some of the agenda and be embraced; you embrace the most radical ideas or you are not welcome. The ideas at this point include some concepts so mindbogglingly stupid that it is very easy to not be included in that bucket; and the language is tortured to the breaking point in attempts to justify policies that are callously used by the Democrat party(who clearly don't eat the shit they're shoveling) to mobilize targeted segments of the population. All the while the conservatives have not changed much, as is their nature. They also don't make much of an effort to hide it. Are they more worried about protecting their individual self-intere
Nathan Minier wrote:
he liberal approach (lately) seems to be to forgive and even encourage unconscionable violence and hatred in the name of being correct.
There are some who seem to do that. I don't agree with them.
Nathan Minier wrote:
70+ genders? Really?
Agreed, that does seem excessive. But,for both biological gender and "gender identity", the existing binary choice is not enough. And lumping everyone who doesn't fit into the existing boxes together under "other" would be demeaning.
Nathan Minier wrote:
"illegal immigrants" != "immigrants" for legal purposes! RTFM
Agreed - there are those on both sides who can't tell the difference.
Nathan Minier wrote:
everything I've struggled from the bottom for
I don't know what your circumstances are, but it's easy for people to think they've got where they are purely by their own effort, without realising what advantages they had growing up: The Simplest and Most Perfect Explanation of Privilege I’ve Ever Seen[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote:
So you don't see a difference between insulting someone for doing something bad (eg: racism), and insulting someone for doing something good (eg: criticizing racism)?
I do, libs don't - in fact, at lest here in EU, they don't see the difference between shooting a bystander and shooting an invader. In Italy if I shoot defending myself in my home I get prosecuted for murder and have to pay the family of the deceased felon (or the felon if alive) for life... that's the core of this ideology. There is difference between blocking clandestine migrants and being xenophobic. Between punishing criminals and being oppressive. Between acknowledging differences and forcing the differences down the throats of everyone. But only the sane part of the population sees them, it seems.
CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "Go ahead, make my day"
den2k88 wrote:
There is difference between blocking clandestine migrants and being xenophobic.
Agreed. :thumbsup: Now, please explain that to people like Nigel Farage. :)
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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den2k88 wrote:
There is difference between blocking clandestine migrants and being xenophobic.
Agreed. :thumbsup: Now, please explain that to people like Nigel Farage. :)
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
I would gladly :d I'm not neither a Farage, Le Pen, Salvini or trump fan. But I think that a regression might be necessary simply to awaken the fear of what can really happen if things continue to go downhill. The real MIA in today's politics is rationality. Too much facade on one side, too much anger on the other.
CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "Go ahead, make my day"
