Win10 Backups
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Hi all, at the end I have bought a new laptop for my wife. It come with SSD and HDD, win 10 preinstalled. After changing to legacy in BIOS I could start with my Norton Ghost 2003 Boot CD, but then I got some error messages I never saw before. I have search a while and done some tests but sadly without success. I suppose my boot cd is a bit too old and can't manage the new styles with Win10. (Other PCs or Laptops with Win7 had no problem at all though) I am starting to think on changing tool and would like to know... what are you using to make your backup images in your Win10 machines?
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Hi all, at the end I have bought a new laptop for my wife. It come with SSD and HDD, win 10 preinstalled. After changing to legacy in BIOS I could start with my Norton Ghost 2003 Boot CD, but then I got some error messages I never saw before. I have search a while and done some tests but sadly without success. I suppose my boot cd is a bit too old and can't manage the new styles with Win10. (Other PCs or Laptops with Win7 had no problem at all though) I am starting to think on changing tool and would like to know... what are you using to make your backup images in your Win10 machines?
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
To boot an old MBR CD set BOTH secure boot to disabled and legacy boot on. Then you still have to find the Fn key for your laptop to either set the boot order is the bios setup so the CD is first or find the temporary boot device list Fn key. Fun Fun Fun.
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Hi all, at the end I have bought a new laptop for my wife. It come with SSD and HDD, win 10 preinstalled. After changing to legacy in BIOS I could start with my Norton Ghost 2003 Boot CD, but then I got some error messages I never saw before. I have search a while and done some tests but sadly without success. I suppose my boot cd is a bit too old and can't manage the new styles with Win10. (Other PCs or Laptops with Win7 had no problem at all though) I am starting to think on changing tool and would like to know... what are you using to make your backup images in your Win10 machines?
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
AOMEI Backupper[^] - I may have mentioned it before: damn good software, the free version is excellent and full featured - you can create an image and later restore it, or load it as a virtual disk to retrieve individual files if you need them. I bought it in the end, because the developers deserve the money!
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Hi all, at the end I have bought a new laptop for my wife. It come with SSD and HDD, win 10 preinstalled. After changing to legacy in BIOS I could start with my Norton Ghost 2003 Boot CD, but then I got some error messages I never saw before. I have search a while and done some tests but sadly without success. I suppose my boot cd is a bit too old and can't manage the new styles with Win10. (Other PCs or Laptops with Win7 had no problem at all though) I am starting to think on changing tool and would like to know... what are you using to make your backup images in your Win10 machines?
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
Macrium's Reflect is my choice. It works *great* with Windows 10. It has saved my bacon on many occasions. You may also take a look at AOMEI Backupper, but I have not tried it myself. Both these options have free versions.
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AOMEI Backupper[^] - I may have mentioned it before: damn good software, the free version is excellent and full featured - you can create an image and later restore it, or load it as a virtual disk to retrieve individual files if you need them. I bought it in the end, because the developers deserve the money!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
OriginalGriff wrote:
may have mentioned it before
You did !
OriginalGriff wrote:
damn good software, the free version is excellent and full featured
It definitely is !
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Macrium's Reflect is my choice. It works *great* with Windows 10. It has saved my bacon on many occasions. You may also take a look at AOMEI Backupper, but I have not tried it myself. Both these options have free versions.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
Another up vote for Macrium, with a down vote for Aomei. Set up backup for client, they didn't want less savvy users to access the backups 'without assistance' - apparently some dumbass had daily deleted all the backup files on a mounted share because he was running out of space on his main drive. (Also wanted protection so now they can't see/read each others backups etc. etc). Anyhoo, Aomei could not mount the backup files to do restores. Firstly browse for file has no option to type a path (point and click only), and double clicking the incremental file in explorer threw up because it still couldn't find the parent file even though in same folder. Tech support no response, luckily was still in 30 day trial. (Even on visible drive Aomei restore sucks, but people love it because it's '1-click only' backup. Surprising the number of people that swear by their backups, and never test restore.)
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To boot an old MBR CD set BOTH secure boot to disabled and legacy boot on. Then you still have to find the Fn key for your laptop to either set the boot order is the bios setup so the CD is first or find the temporary boot device list Fn key. Fun Fun Fun.
I have been able to boot it, the problem is once it starts cloning. It complains about corruptetd NTFS
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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AOMEI Backupper[^] - I may have mentioned it before: damn good software, the free version is excellent and full featured - you can create an image and later restore it, or load it as a virtual disk to retrieve individual files if you need them. I bought it in the end, because the developers deserve the money!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
Thank you... I will have a look
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Macrium's Reflect is my choice. It works *great* with Windows 10. It has saved my bacon on many occasions. You may also take a look at AOMEI Backupper, but I have not tried it myself. Both these options have free versions.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
Thank you... I will have a look.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I have been able to boot it, the problem is once it starts cloning. It complains about corruptetd NTFS
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
Must be a ghost-y issue. I use Acronis for such things and live image it with the os up. Acronis will default to reading sectors if there is an issue with the file system. Many imagers has difficulty with hybrid drives. Mechanical big backend drives with a smaller ssd front end. - they're trouble anyway. Make sure it's not one of those.
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Another up vote for Macrium, with a down vote for Aomei. Set up backup for client, they didn't want less savvy users to access the backups 'without assistance' - apparently some dumbass had daily deleted all the backup files on a mounted share because he was running out of space on his main drive. (Also wanted protection so now they can't see/read each others backups etc. etc). Anyhoo, Aomei could not mount the backup files to do restores. Firstly browse for file has no option to type a path (point and click only), and double clicking the incremental file in explorer threw up because it still couldn't find the parent file even though in same folder. Tech support no response, luckily was still in 30 day trial. (Even on visible drive Aomei restore sucks, but people love it because it's '1-click only' backup. Surprising the number of people that swear by their backups, and never test restore.)
Sin tack ear lol Pressing the any key may be continuate
I have had a look to the site... they do have a one-click solution but they offer other stuff too. I will test both of them.
Lopatir wrote:
Surprising the number of people that swear by their backups, and never test restore
I know... My usual process is: - Restore from las image I did - Windows updates + other changes I did (Software, Settings... whatsoever) - Do backup image - Restore from new image - If restore OK, install tiny apps I don't want in Backup - If restore NOT OK, start over again. And this 2 or 3 Times a year.
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Must be a ghost-y issue. I use Acronis for such things and live image it with the os up. Acronis will default to reading sectors if there is an issue with the file system. Many imagers has difficulty with hybrid drives. Mechanical big backend drives with a smaller ssd front end. - they're trouble anyway. Make sure it's not one of those.
Win10 in a 128 SSD with 3 partitions: typical 100 Mb for boot, 127 Gb NTFS for OS, 1 GB free Data in a 1 TB HDD NTFS I come up to starting image creation, but it aborts in the next 5 sec with the error. I suppose my version is just to old for new systems.
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Thank you... I will have a look.
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With Reflect, make sure you create the bootable rescue media (USB drive or CD) for every machine that you want to image. This will ensure that the right drivers for a particular machine are included in the rescue media for that machine and will avoid disappointment later when you try to boot from the media. And: Regardless which app you choose: Be sure to check that the machine can be booted from its rescue media. if there is a glitch, you want to know about it before you desperately need to re-image a drive. And: I keep my data on a separate drive. My systems drive only contains Windows and all applications. That means my systems drive images are not bloated up by data. My data I back up separately. However, you obviously cannot do this on a single drive laptop, unless you keep the data in a separate partition. With Macrium you can select the partition(s) that you want to backup. And: I always use Macrium to verify every new image. Better to know if an image's integrity is compromised before you actually need it.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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With Reflect, make sure you create the bootable rescue media (USB drive or CD) for every machine that you want to image. This will ensure that the right drivers for a particular machine are included in the rescue media for that machine and will avoid disappointment later when you try to boot from the media. And: Regardless which app you choose: Be sure to check that the machine can be booted from its rescue media. if there is a glitch, you want to know about it before you desperately need to re-image a drive. And: I keep my data on a separate drive. My systems drive only contains Windows and all applications. That means my systems drive images are not bloated up by data. My data I back up separately. However, you obviously cannot do this on a single drive laptop, unless you keep the data in a separate partition. With Macrium you can select the partition(s) that you want to backup. And: I always use Macrium to verify every new image. Better to know if an image's integrity is compromised before you actually need it.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
Cornelius Henning wrote:
With Reflect, make sure you create the bootable rescue media (USB drive or CD) for every machine that you want to image.
:confused: I thought they already come with the option to boot. As norton ghost or others like that (i.e. hirens boot)
Cornelius Henning wrote:
And: I always use Macrium to verify every new image. Better to know if an image's integrity is compromised before you actually need it.
see my answer to lopatir
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Cornelius Henning wrote:
With Reflect, make sure you create the bootable rescue media (USB drive or CD) for every machine that you want to image.
:confused: I thought they already come with the option to boot. As norton ghost or others like that (i.e. hirens boot)
Cornelius Henning wrote:
And: I always use Macrium to verify every new image. Better to know if an image's integrity is compromised before you actually need it.
see my answer to lopatir
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I thought they already come with the option to boot
Apart from the bootable media, Macrium also creates a XML file separate from the image. I believe you can boot using the XML file, but have never used it. I just got so used to booting a "clean" version of the Windows PE operating system, that I can do it blind folded. :)
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I thought they already come with the option to boot
Apart from the bootable media, Macrium also creates a XML file separate from the image. I believe you can boot using the XML file, but have never used it. I just got so used to booting a "clean" version of the Windows PE operating system, that I can do it blind folded. :)
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And you get the "clean" version of the Windows PE... how? Forget it... I already saw it in their page "WinPE rescue environment (CD, DVD, USB or Boot Menu)"
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And you get the "clean" version of the Windows PE... how? Forget it... I already saw it in their page "WinPE rescue environment (CD, DVD, USB or Boot Menu)"
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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And you get the "clean" version of the Windows PE... how?
Macrium Reflect and probably AOMEI will create bootable rescue media for you, that will boot the Windows PE operating system. This operating system is necessary to restore previous images. It's a tiny OS, just a few hundred MegaByte, so it fits comfortably on a CD, but you can also flash it onto a USB stick, that will be bootable. I prefer doing it on a CD, then I know it can never be corrupted by a virus, however small that likelihood is. Macrium also allows you to base the PE system on the kernels of different versions of Windows. You just check the kernel version box for your system.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Hi all, at the end I have bought a new laptop for my wife. It come with SSD and HDD, win 10 preinstalled. After changing to legacy in BIOS I could start with my Norton Ghost 2003 Boot CD, but then I got some error messages I never saw before. I have search a while and done some tests but sadly without success. I suppose my boot cd is a bit too old and can't manage the new styles with Win10. (Other PCs or Laptops with Win7 had no problem at all though) I am starting to think on changing tool and would like to know... what are you using to make your backup images in your Win10 machines?
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
I vote for Clonezilla. Ugly interface but works every time. Make sure you use the latest version. Free. I only run Windows in a virtual machine, easy to backup, just copy the files to the NAS.
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And you get the "clean" version of the Windows PE... how?
Macrium Reflect and probably AOMEI will create bootable rescue media for you, that will boot the Windows PE operating system. This operating system is necessary to restore previous images. It's a tiny OS, just a few hundred MegaByte, so it fits comfortably on a CD, but you can also flash it onto a USB stick, that will be bootable. I prefer doing it on a CD, then I know it can never be corrupted by a virus, however small that likelihood is. Macrium also allows you to base the PE system on the kernels of different versions of Windows. You just check the kernel version box for your system.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
But then... do you need to install the software in every computer before? or is it like Hiren's Bott CD, that you can (or could, I tested the HBCD as well and sadly didn't work any better) use it everywhere?
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But then... do you need to install the software in every computer before? or is it like Hiren's Bott CD, that you can (or could, I tested the HBCD as well and sadly didn't work any better) use it everywhere?
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
