Trump likely not addressing UK Parliament
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Doesn't the speaker take over if the PM pops his/her clogs?
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Doesn't the speaker take over if the PM pops his/her clogs?
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No, the Speaker is independent of the Government and the Opposition. He is, in theory, just a figurehead. John Bercow faces calls to 'think about his position' after bid to silence Donald Trump[^].
I thought there was this thing where the speaker holds court until a deputy is sworn in. It might be historical; I get my time periods mixed up quite a bit, because of that damned crack in the flux-capacitor.
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Donald Trump will not be allowed to address Parliament on UK state visit, Speaker John Bercow says | The Independent[^] Given that the UK Parliament (like the US Congress) is a bastion of honesty, integrity and purity this only seems right. I suspect their poor innocent minds may be corrupted by the devil from across the pond. :rolleyes: Seriously though... these state visits by world "leaders" need to stop. The cost to tax payers is astronomical. Surely a video conference will suffice.
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan
http://www.parliament.uk/business/commons/the-speaker/the-role-of-the-speaker/role-of-the-speaker/[^] "The Speaker is the chief officer and highest authority of the House of Commons and must remain politically impartial at all times." He cant stop Trump, unless there is such disorder he has to close the sitting.
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http://www.parliament.uk/business/commons/the-speaker/the-role-of-the-speaker/role-of-the-speaker/[^] "The Speaker is the chief officer and highest authority of the House of Commons and must remain politically impartial at all times." He cant stop Trump, unless there is such disorder he has to close the sitting.
In reality, this is probably much ado about nothing. 1) I've not heard that Trump wants to address the UK Parliament. 2) I've not heard that anyone in the UK has invited Trump to address parliament. 3) I doubt Americans care if Trump is allowed to address the UK Parliament.
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan
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In reality, this is probably much ado about nothing. 1) I've not heard that Trump wants to address the UK Parliament. 2) I've not heard that anyone in the UK has invited Trump to address parliament. 3) I doubt Americans care if Trump is allowed to address the UK Parliament.
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan
Yet another morally superior twerp ignoring the democtratic wil of the people. They make me sick. Branson, BLair, using their millions to try to derail Brexit. Left wingers by the score violently protesting Trumps election in the most undemocratic and illegal fashion. Bercow should be sacked for even hinting at the depth of his prejudice.
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In reality, this is probably much ado about nothing. 1) I've not heard that Trump wants to address the UK Parliament. 2) I've not heard that anyone in the UK has invited Trump to address parliament. 3) I doubt Americans care if Trump is allowed to address the UK Parliament.
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan
- I also doubt that many Britons give a rat's @rse. But it's nice to see that British subjects, even the speaker of the house, are allowed to democratically exercise their legal right to protest against something. It's a shame that rabid supporters (of anything) believe that those who disagree with their opinions do not have any democratic or civil rights.
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- I also doubt that many Britons give a rat's @rse. But it's nice to see that British subjects, even the speaker of the house, are allowed to democratically exercise their legal right to protest against something. It's a shame that rabid supporters (of anything) believe that those who disagree with their opinions do not have any democratic or civil rights.
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
But it's nice to see that British subjects, even the speaker of the house, are allowed to democratically exercise their legal right to protest against something.
When that subject is the speaker of the house it's a very fine line between protest and subjecting one's will on others. Like the recent student protests (at Cal Berkeley) against a certain speaker - you run the risk of becoming the very thing you're protesting.
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
But it's nice to see that British subjects, even the speaker of the house, are allowed to democratically exercise their legal right to protest against something.
When that subject is the speaker of the house it's a very fine line between protest and subjecting one's will on others. Like the recent student protests (at Cal Berkeley) against a certain speaker - you run the risk of becoming the very thing you're protesting.
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan
He didn't tell anyone what they should/could or should not/could not do, he simply expressed an honest opinion, as is his right, whoever he is and whatever job he does. Whether people agree with him or not, he is entitled to honest opinions, and is entitled to express them. IMO, we've had worse people address parliament (Hell, Oswald Mosley was a member of parliament!), so it's no skin off my nose, either way -- but various members of the house were opposed to those people addressing them, too, and also expressed their honest opinions.
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He didn't tell anyone what they should/could or should not/could not do, he simply expressed an honest opinion, as is his right, whoever he is and whatever job he does. Whether people agree with him or not, he is entitled to honest opinions, and is entitled to express them. IMO, we've had worse people address parliament (Hell, Oswald Mosley was a member of parliament!), so it's no skin off my nose, either way -- but various members of the house were opposed to those people addressing them, too, and also expressed their honest opinions.
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
He didn't tell anyone what they should/could or should not/could not do, he simply expressed an honest opinion, as is his right, whoever he is and whatever job he does.
The articles I read made it sound like he had the authority to stop any such address and planned to use it... but I could be wrong. Like you, it's no skin off my nose so I didn't / don't care to research it.
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan
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Donald Trump will not be allowed to address Parliament on UK state visit, Speaker John Bercow says | The Independent[^] Given that the UK Parliament (like the US Congress) is a bastion of honesty, integrity and purity this only seems right. I suspect their poor innocent minds may be corrupted by the devil from across the pond. :rolleyes: Seriously though... these state visits by world "leaders" need to stop. The cost to tax payers is astronomical. Surely a video conference will suffice.
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan
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http://www.parliament.uk/business/commons/the-speaker/the-role-of-the-speaker/role-of-the-speaker/[^] "The Speaker is the chief officer and highest authority of the House of Commons and must remain politically impartial at all times." He cant stop Trump, unless there is such disorder he has to close the sitting.
Errm, sorry to disagree, but he can stop Trump addressing parliament in the Westminster Hall if he persuades one of the other two keyholders to agree with him. The right to address parliament in Westminster Hall can only be granted by a majority vote - and he is one of the three keyholders. The keyholders are the Speaker of the House of Commons, the Lord Speaker of the House of the Lords and the Lord Great Chamberlain<.
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