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TWCP OTD (The Who Cares Puzzle Of The Day) - 7th of February, 2017

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  • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

    I wonder if this is a matter of age... :thumbsup:

    Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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    W Balboos GHB
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    And for my prize, I seem to recall that there's a Halavah stall in one of the markets (Machane Y'huda, perhaps?) - A kilo of their finest, assorted, will do for a start.

    Ravings en masse^

    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      And for my prize, I seem to recall that there's a Halavah stall in one of the markets (Machane Y'huda, perhaps?) - A kilo of their finest, assorted, will do for a start.

      Ravings en masse^

      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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      Do you mean this one: ממלכת חלבה - האתר של שוק מחנה יהודה | סיורים, טעימות, אירועים ומידע כללי[^] ? How bad that there is no prize on TWCP :cool:

      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

      "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

        Do you mean this one: ממלכת חלבה - האתר של שוק מחנה יהודה | סיורים, טעימות, אירועים ומידע כללי[^] ? How bad that there is no prize on TWCP :cool:

        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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        W Balboos GHB
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        Yes - and do you mean I went through all of the _time and expens_e of answering the question for free? That's crazy.

        Ravings en masse^

        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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        • J Jochen Arndt

          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

          but I do not think your answer is correct...

          ... because he forgot to count the covers.

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          Bassam Abdul Baki
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          It said ignore the covers.

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          • W W Balboos GHB

            A real oldie - the two book parts you noted are adjacent to one another on books "properly" shelved. If you don't count the covers as pages, the answer is "none".

            Ravings en masse^

            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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            Bassam Abdul Baki
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            How did the worm get in the book to eat cover to cover? Wormhole? Boom tish!

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            • B Bassam Abdul Baki

              How did the worm get in the book to eat cover to cover? Wormhole? Boom tish!

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              W Balboos GHB
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              If you try a remark like that again I'll tell O.G. on you.   Don't think I won't. What a bunch of castings . . .

              Ravings en masse^

              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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              • W W Balboos GHB

                If you try a remark like that again I'll tell O.G. on you.   Don't think I won't. What a bunch of castings . . .

                Ravings en masse^

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                Bassam Abdul Baki
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                Even I'm not that corny. :D

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                • W W Balboos GHB

                  A real oldie - the two book parts you noted are adjacent to one another on books "properly" shelved. If you don't count the covers as pages, the answer is "none".

                  Ravings en masse^

                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                  Rage
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                  I don't get it, I definitely need a drawing here.

                  Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                  • R Rage

                    I don't get it, I definitely need a drawing here.

                    Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                    W Balboos GHB
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                    OK: Drawing in your mind's eye (illustration on bottom): Consider how a set of books is put on the shelf. Lowest volume number to the right and in sequential order. Next imagine your in the process of taking the first volume off the shelf. It's in your hand and the front cover is to your right. So it's not on the outside edge of the volume set. The back cover of book '1' the outside cover. In fact, for all books (not written in Hebrew or Arabic), when shelved, the left side is the back of the book and the right side is the front. Now - for the two volume set in the problem, the back of the second book, being on the left, is now touching the front of the first book.

                    | | | |
                    | Vol 1 | | Vol 2 |
                    | | | |
                    | | | |
                    | | | |
                    | | | |
                    | | | |
                    B F B F
                    a r a r
                    c o c o
                    k n k n
                    t t

                    This would still be true, by the way, for books written right-to-left as their order on the shelf would be reversed, too.

                    Ravings en masse^

                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    • W W Balboos GHB

                      OK: Drawing in your mind's eye (illustration on bottom): Consider how a set of books is put on the shelf. Lowest volume number to the right and in sequential order. Next imagine your in the process of taking the first volume off the shelf. It's in your hand and the front cover is to your right. So it's not on the outside edge of the volume set. The back cover of book '1' the outside cover. In fact, for all books (not written in Hebrew or Arabic), when shelved, the left side is the back of the book and the right side is the front. Now - for the two volume set in the problem, the back of the second book, being on the left, is now touching the front of the first book.

                      | | | |
                      | Vol 1 | | Vol 2 |
                      | | | |
                      | | | |
                      | | | |
                      | | | |
                      | | | |
                      B F B F
                      a r a r
                      c o c o
                      k n k n
                      t t

                      This would still be true, by the way, for books written right-to-left as their order on the shelf would be reversed, too.

                      Ravings en masse^

                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                      Rage
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                      :omg: :thumbsup::cool:

                      Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                        BOOK WORM On the shelf there is a book of two parts. The first part has 972 pages (not including cover, but anything else), the second has 864 (same)... A curious worm ate itself thru the book starting with the front cover of the first part and until the very end of the back cover of the last part... How many pages it perforated on the way?

                        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                        Mark_Wallace
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                        Was it an African worm or a European one?

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                        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                          BOOK WORM On the shelf there is a book of two parts. The first part has 972 pages (not including cover, but anything else), the second has 864 (same)... A curious worm ate itself thru the book starting with the front cover of the first part and until the very end of the back cover of the last part... How many pages it perforated on the way?

                          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                          Wot if they're on a kindle? (Still fits, 2 books in the kindle on the shelf).

                          Sin tack ear lol Pressing the any key may be continuate

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                          • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                            BOOK WORM On the shelf there is a book of two parts. The first part has 972 pages (not including cover, but anything else), the second has 864 (same)... A curious worm ate itself thru the book starting with the front cover of the first part and until the very end of the back cover of the last part... How many pages it perforated on the way?

                            Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                            Brady Kelly
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                            It is quite reasonable to not count book covers as pages, although they may be leaves of paper. The first part has 972 pages, making 486 physical leaves of paper that are pages. The second part has 864 pages, or 432 leaves of paper that are pages. If we don't assume, as it is not stated in the puzzle, that the worm burrowed in straight line through both parts, it perforated 1836 numbered pages, or 918 leaves of paper.

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                            • J Jochen Arndt

                              Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                              but I do not think your answer is correct...

                              ... because he forgot to count the covers.

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                              Brady Kelly
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                              Book covers are not book pages.

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                              • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                It said ignore the covers.

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                                It did not, it just said a book has n pages, not counting the cover. If you mistakenly consider a cover to a page of a book, then the puzzle implies you should include covers.

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                                • W W Balboos GHB

                                  A real oldie - the two book parts you noted are adjacent to one another on books "properly" shelved. If you don't count the covers as pages, the answer is "none".

                                  Ravings en masse^

                                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                  Brady Kelly
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                                  Please justify this answer. What difference does it make that the books are adjacent to each other, if the worm still burrowed through all of both parts, except maybe the back cover of the last?

                                  Follow my adventures with .NET Core at my new blog, Erisia Information Services.

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                                  • W W Balboos GHB

                                    OK: Drawing in your mind's eye (illustration on bottom): Consider how a set of books is put on the shelf. Lowest volume number to the right and in sequential order. Next imagine your in the process of taking the first volume off the shelf. It's in your hand and the front cover is to your right. So it's not on the outside edge of the volume set. The back cover of book '1' the outside cover. In fact, for all books (not written in Hebrew or Arabic), when shelved, the left side is the back of the book and the right side is the front. Now - for the two volume set in the problem, the back of the second book, being on the left, is now touching the front of the first book.

                                    | | | |
                                    | Vol 1 | | Vol 2 |
                                    | | | |
                                    | | | |
                                    | | | |
                                    | | | |
                                    | | | |
                                    B F B F
                                    a r a r
                                    c o c o
                                    k n k n
                                    t t

                                    This would still be true, by the way, for books written right-to-left as their order on the shelf would be reversed, too.

                                    Ravings en masse^

                                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                    Very good, if the puzzle stipulated that the worm burrowed through both volumes in one straight line. In your drawing, the worm could very well have started between the two volumes, and burrowed to the left through the first one, then circled back to the right of the second one and burrowed left until the back cover of that one.

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                                      It is quite reasonable to not count book covers as pages, although they may be leaves of paper. The first part has 972 pages, making 486 physical leaves of paper that are pages. The second part has 864 pages, or 432 leaves of paper that are pages. If we don't assume, as it is not stated in the puzzle, that the worm burrowed in straight line through both parts, it perforated 1836 numbered pages, or 918 leaves of paper.

                                      Follow my adventures with .NET Core at my new blog, Erisia Information Services.

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                                      Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                                      Even you are right about the confusion between pages and sheets, but that's intentional... And in your case it led you to the wrong answer... ;)

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                                        It did not, it just said a book has n pages, not counting the cover. If you mistakenly consider a cover to a page of a book, then the puzzle implies you should include covers.

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                                        Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                        I didn't. It said # of pages not including the covers. I said it's the total # of pages. I didn't actually give a number. So if he wanted to include the covers, he can. But in the end, his answer was zero, so the covers where not included as I surmised.

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                                        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                          BOOK WORM On the shelf there is a book of two parts. The first part has 972 pages (not including cover, but anything else), the second has 864 (same)... A curious worm ate itself thru the book starting with the front cover of the first part and until the very end of the back cover of the last part... How many pages it perforated on the way?

                                          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                          Are we also not including other non-numbered pages like the preface, contents, 'This page intentionally left blank' etc?

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