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  • M Marc Clifton

    Random pointless thought - it's ironic to me that a company will have a "no remote work" policy for their own employees, yet every company interfaces with and relies on employees in other companies who are, by their nature, remote. Marc

    V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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    W Balboos GHB
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    A management epiphany who's time has come ( but it probably won't). Perhaps they can outsource their work-remotely policy makers ?

    Ravings en masse^

    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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    • M Marc Clifton

      Random pointless thought - it's ironic to me that a company will have a "no remote work" policy for their own employees, yet every company interfaces with and relies on employees in other companies who are, by their nature, remote. Marc

      V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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      Stephen Gonzalez
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      Shhhh. Don't interfere with my three days telecommute.

      The best way to make your dreams come true is to wake up. Paul Valery

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      • M Marc Clifton

        Random pointless thought - it's ironic to me that a company will have a "no remote work" policy for their own employees, yet every company interfaces with and relies on employees in other companies who are, by their nature, remote. Marc

        V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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        Sander Rossel
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        I've had many side projects that proved to be useful in business situations, yet every time I put some private code into business code I'm met with suspicion and disbelief. We will use code from total strangers that we just so happen to find on the internet. We use packages from NuGet and npm, also from people we don't know. We hire people that we've just met and entrust them with our source code. All the code I write during business hours is fine. But when I take some code I wrote at home suddenly it's not good enough. Companies (and people in general) don't have to make sense :)

        Best, Sander arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript SQL Server for C# Developers Succinctly Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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        • M Marc Clifton

          Random pointless thought - it's ironic to me that a company will have a "no remote work" policy for their own employees, yet every company interfaces with and relies on employees in other companies who are, by their nature, remote. Marc

          V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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          Lost User
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          self emp - everywhere is remote. But even then my requirements to do the job make it that I have to work at home almost all of the time - or at least that's what I tell the client. Side effect of offices is meetings, direct effect of meetings is excessive time wastage.

          Sin tack ear lol Pressing the any key may be continuate

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            self emp - everywhere is remote. But even then my requirements to do the job make it that I have to work at home almost all of the time - or at least that's what I tell the client. Side effect of offices is meetings, direct effect of meetings is excessive time wastage.

            Sin tack ear lol Pressing the any key may be continuate

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            kmoorevs
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            Lopatir wrote:

            self emp - everywhere is remote.

            Same here

            Lopatir wrote:

            Side effect of offices is meetings

            You failed to mention side effects of working from home: 0: Family/friends have no qualms about calling or making special requests since (at least in my case) since you aren't at work??? (example: yesterday was two trips across town to get the missus's car serviced...all during my 'work' hours. 1: Coworkers desperate for help show up at your home office...pair programming = 'stop what you are doing and help me'. 2: That dreaded first call in the morning from the 'boss' (she who writes the checks) asking the same old tired question...'What are you doing?' This will be the first of at least a half-dozen calls throughout the day, each one interrupting me and causing me to take a break. Ain't teamwork great? :sigh: The pros still outweigh the cons though!

            "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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              Lopatir wrote:

              self emp - everywhere is remote.

              Same here

              Lopatir wrote:

              Side effect of offices is meetings

              You failed to mention side effects of working from home: 0: Family/friends have no qualms about calling or making special requests since (at least in my case) since you aren't at work??? (example: yesterday was two trips across town to get the missus's car serviced...all during my 'work' hours. 1: Coworkers desperate for help show up at your home office...pair programming = 'stop what you are doing and help me'. 2: That dreaded first call in the morning from the 'boss' (she who writes the checks) asking the same old tired question...'What are you doing?' This will be the first of at least a half-dozen calls throughout the day, each one interrupting me and causing me to take a break. Ain't teamwork great? :sigh: The pros still outweigh the cons though!

              "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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              dandy72
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              kmoorevs wrote:

              Family/friends have no qualms about calling or making special requests since (at least in my case) since you aren't at work

              It's your mistake for letting anyone think this way. Perhaps they're under the mistaken impression you are your own boss, and have nobody to answer to? (or is that actually the case?) I made it clear to everybody I know that if something's not so important that they wouldn't call me during the workday if I was working at some office elsewhere, then they shouldn't call me at home either during those same hours. Everybody understood that. That's been going on for nearly 10 years now. Also: "Making an exception, just this once" is also called "allowing a precedent to be set". I'm an a**hole when it comes to this sort of thing.

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                Lopatir wrote:

                self emp - everywhere is remote.

                Same here

                Lopatir wrote:

                Side effect of offices is meetings

                You failed to mention side effects of working from home: 0: Family/friends have no qualms about calling or making special requests since (at least in my case) since you aren't at work??? (example: yesterday was two trips across town to get the missus's car serviced...all during my 'work' hours. 1: Coworkers desperate for help show up at your home office...pair programming = 'stop what you are doing and help me'. 2: That dreaded first call in the morning from the 'boss' (she who writes the checks) asking the same old tired question...'What are you doing?' This will be the first of at least a half-dozen calls throughout the day, each one interrupting me and causing me to take a break. Ain't teamwork great? :sigh: The pros still outweigh the cons though!

                "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                Mycroft Holmes
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                From experience 0. Learn to ignore the wife and kids, do not respond to familial interuptions (and get a door to your home office) 1. Make you home office so uncomfortable for the cow orker that they REALLY need you help to endure your office 2. Set up timed emails to be sent to your boss describing what you expect to be doing at any one time. Time them for 5 minutes before her usual call times. Include this link in the signature of EVERY email Dilbert(http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-01-05)

                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  Random pointless thought - it's ironic to me that a company will have a "no remote work" policy for their own employees, yet every company interfaces with and relies on employees in other companies who are, by their nature, remote. Marc

                  V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                  Ygnaiih
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                  My shop is in Denver Co. My office is in West Virginia. There are no other persons in my work group in WV. They won't let me work from home unless there is an emergency. All my work is remote.

                  Leadership equals wrecked ship. If you think you are leading my look behind you. You are alone. If you think I am leading you, You are lost.

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    Random pointless thought - it's ironic to me that a company will have a "no remote work" policy for their own employees, yet every company interfaces with and relies on employees in other companies who are, by their nature, remote. Marc

                    V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                    Leng Vang
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                    Or how about this. Those that live in town can not have any telecommute, but those who moved out of town are allowed 100% telecommute. I will never understand this one.

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Random pointless thought - it's ironic to me that a company will have a "no remote work" policy for their own employees, yet every company interfaces with and relies on employees in other companies who are, by their nature, remote. Marc

                      V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                      Lost User
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                      And when I'm working remote, I charge for "travel time" if I have to go to the office!

                      "(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then". ― Blaise Pascal

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