Cloning Winten
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Assuming your original disk was installed as drive 0 you may want to remove it and connect your SSD as drive 0, if you have it in a different slot the system may think it is drive 1 (or 2 or whatever) and not like it. Update: Never mind [Sorry, I missed reading your step#9 properly.]
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Thanks, I used Acronis True Image. The only difference between your process and mine was that I left the original drive in, thinking that if the ssd worked, I could repurpose the original disk to just storage. Only after the ssd failed did I remove the original drive and put the ssd in slot 0. Perhaps all those other partitions caused an issue???:confused:
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I think that's the case. I was very careful about handling my original hard drive, since I wanted to preserve it until I had some confidence that the SSD was working properly. After I cloned it, I removed it from the machine before I tried booting with the SSD.
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Thanks, I used Acronis True Image. The only difference between your process and mine was that I left the original drive in, thinking that if the ssd worked, I could repurpose the original disk to just storage. Only after the ssd failed did I remove the original drive and put the ssd in slot 0. Perhaps all those other partitions caused an issue???:confused:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
I have a Dell M6500 and was replacing one of it's two drives, the boot drive, with an SSD. Acronis did explain (warn) that for a laptop you needed to put the SSD in the boot drive port and the boot drive as an external. Then you boot with a bootable (USB in my case) and clone from there. When I actually followed the instructions it actually worked.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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To keep it short, over the weekend, I attempted to replace the spinning disk in my < 2yo laptop with a SSD. The laptop has a second hdd bay and I had bought the caddy and connector, so the idea was to install the drive and clone the existing drive to the new SSD, then simply change the boot device. Somewhere things went wrong and the system refuses to boot from the SSD. For the time being, I'm going to blame the cloning software until I get a chance to try another one. (I used the software which came with the SSD) Before I get too far, have others successfully cloned Winten? (or is it just me?) What I did: 0: install disk cloning software with license from SDD manufacturer (name withheld until proven incompetent) 1: create bootable USB with clone utilities 2: boot to USB and perform disk clone 3: boot to new drive...failed...looked promising at first...login screen comes up for a few seconds, then the screen goes black leaving just a spinning cursor. I left it that way for hours yesterday. No dice. :( 4: boot to safemode on original disk and disable sync services from cloning software (after reading about this issue on their website) 5: boot to USB again and repeat clone process 6: boot to new drive again and get almost the same thing as before, but now the screen just goes black...not even a cursor??? 7: think to self...'maybe I need to take the original drive out completely', so disassemble laptop and pull the original drive out...snap cover back on but leave the screws out 8: boot to the new drive again...bluescreen...problem with the device or something 9: move drive to now empty main drive bay...(does it matter?) 10: goto 8 :laugh: 11: reinstall original spinning drive back into main drive bay and we're back to square one!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
I used AOMEI Partition Assistant - it's got a free version which works really well - it has a "Migrate OS to SSD" wizard which does all the work for you. Took about 30 mins on my system and I have had no problems whatsoever since. AOMEI Partition Assistant[^] All I did was stick the SSD in as a second drive, run the program - about 30 minutes - and remove the old drive. I will admit to doing a full image backup just before I did it, but that's apparently because I'm paranoid... :laugh:
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I have a Dell M6500 and was replacing one of it's two drives, the boot drive, with an SSD. Acronis did explain (warn) that for a laptop you needed to put the SSD in the boot drive port and the boot drive as an external. Then you boot with a bootable (USB in my case) and clone from there. When I actually followed the instructions it actually worked.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos wrote:
followed the instructions
Hmmm, you may be on to something there...I shall go back and look for this documentation. :doh: Thanks, I will try this later...it's good that I haven't put the screws back in yet!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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W∴ Balboos wrote:
followed the instructions
Hmmm, you may be on to something there...I shall go back and look for this documentation. :doh: Thanks, I will try this later...it's good that I haven't put the screws back in yet!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
Whilst you look this stuff up: the bootable USB was made through the Acronis software - which I initially installed on my original still-working bootable system. In puts in enough linux and acronis to do the deed.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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I used AOMEI Partition Assistant - it's got a free version which works really well - it has a "Migrate OS to SSD" wizard which does all the work for you. Took about 30 mins on my system and I have had no problems whatsoever since. AOMEI Partition Assistant[^] All I did was stick the SSD in as a second drive, run the program - about 30 minutes - and remove the old drive. I will admit to doing a full image backup just before I did it, but that's apparently because I'm paranoid... :laugh:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
I admit, I was going to title it 'Oi, I shoulda listened to Griff', (AOME! spokesman) but I wanted to see if it was me or Acronis. It seems that it may be me failing to read instructions! I promise, if it fails again, I'll give it a go! :laugh:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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I admit, I was going to title it 'Oi, I shoulda listened to Griff', (AOME! spokesman) but I wanted to see if it was me or Acronis. It seems that it may be me failing to read instructions! I promise, if it fails again, I'll give it a go! :laugh:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
They ought to pay me per mention - I'd be rich! Or at least, not quite as poor as I am now ... :sigh:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I admit, I was going to title it 'Oi, I shoulda listened to Griff', (AOME! spokesman) but I wanted to see if it was me or Acronis. It seems that it may be me failing to read instructions! I promise, if it fails again, I'll give it a go! :laugh:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
kmoorevs wrote:
I admit, I was going to title it 'Oi, I shoulda listened to Griff', (AOME! spokesman) but I wanted to see if it was me or Acronis. It seems that it may be me failing to read instructions! I promise, if it fails again, I'll give it a go! :laugh:
I've been using Acronis True Image since about version 9 in 2007. Never had an issue, even managed on many an occasion to clone a HDD from an old computer and image it back in to a new computer with different hardware and keep all data and programs running and Windows activated. Great when old machines are running specific workshop machines and you can't get the software any more or it only runs on older Windows version.
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Assuming your original disk was installed as drive 0 you may want to remove it and connect your SSD as drive 0, if you have it in a different slot the system may think it is drive 1 (or 2 or whatever) and not like it. Update: Never mind [Sorry, I missed reading your step#9 properly.]
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This was around a year ago. The big name SSDs bundled cloning software did not work at all with "Winten". I called big name's tech support and they told me they were working on getting some software for that, but he didn't know when they would have it. No, he could not tell me where to get third party software, but I should "Google it!" Another tech on a second call said, "I can't tell you what to use, but I use this one." Sadly I don't remember what I used. I hooked the SSD to a USB port with a cable that was recommended for that. I just saw the cable the other day and it had USB on one end and an SATA hookup on the other. I didn't fool around with trying to hook up two drives I just took out the HDD and put in the SSD. It worked.
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I used AOMEI Partition Assistant - it's got a free version which works really well - it has a "Migrate OS to SSD" wizard which does all the work for you. Took about 30 mins on my system and I have had no problems whatsoever since. AOMEI Partition Assistant[^] All I did was stick the SSD in as a second drive, run the program - about 30 minutes - and remove the old drive. I will admit to doing a full image backup just before I did it, but that's apparently because I'm paranoid... :laugh:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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To keep it short, over the weekend, I attempted to replace the spinning disk in my < 2yo laptop with a SSD. The laptop has a second hdd bay and I had bought the caddy and connector, so the idea was to install the drive and clone the existing drive to the new SSD, then simply change the boot device. Somewhere things went wrong and the system refuses to boot from the SSD. For the time being, I'm going to blame the cloning software until I get a chance to try another one. (I used the software which came with the SSD) Before I get too far, have others successfully cloned Winten? (or is it just me?) What I did: 0: install disk cloning software with license from SDD manufacturer (name withheld until proven incompetent) 1: create bootable USB with clone utilities 2: boot to USB and perform disk clone 3: boot to new drive...failed...looked promising at first...login screen comes up for a few seconds, then the screen goes black leaving just a spinning cursor. I left it that way for hours yesterday. No dice. :( 4: boot to safemode on original disk and disable sync services from cloning software (after reading about this issue on their website) 5: boot to USB again and repeat clone process 6: boot to new drive again and get almost the same thing as before, but now the screen just goes black...not even a cursor??? 7: think to self...'maybe I need to take the original drive out completely', so disassemble laptop and pull the original drive out...snap cover back on but leave the screws out 8: boot to the new drive again...bluescreen...problem with the device or something 9: move drive to now empty main drive bay...(does it matter?) 10: goto 8 :laugh: 11: reinstall original spinning drive back into main drive bay and we're back to square one!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
I think you finally have the pieces for this, i have done this so many times, it's science. 1) put the destination (SSD) in the drive 0 bay you are ultimately targeting. (In the old days, it affected boot sector configuration, and partition ordering) 2) when in doubt, connect the source drive to External USB, its slower, but it it doesnt interfere. (I have not had to do this in 2-3 cycles of hardware, though) 3) After your restore, NEVER leave your old disk in on boot, or anything. The first time windows comes to life, it is kinda wigging out. It knows the drive changed. Giving it no choices helps. It boots up, and USUALLY requires you to reboot. 4) Sometimes drivers are required. I have had ONE case, where I had to put the SSD in, and windows installed some drivers to deal with it. I removed the SSD, and clean booted. The drivers stick around... Then booting worked. *** required if switching drive types in the old IDE/SCSI days *** 5) after you get the clean boot. Format your old HD externally and use it for storage via USB. Then put it back in the machine in the other bay. ** Note I ALMOST never EVER do this. Even with SSD upgrades. I set it aside as a FALLBACK Backup. ** If my SSD ever fails, I pop this guy in, and at least I am up and running, can start restores. I recently used this process with a single bay winten machine with the new super small SSD drives (as in a tablet). I had to buy a funky adapter to plug the original into USB. And I used an external DVD to boot from (I do this stuff a lot, still have DVDs with software). WORKED FIRST TIME, perfectly. HTH Kirk Out!
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I think you finally have the pieces for this, i have done this so many times, it's science. 1) put the destination (SSD) in the drive 0 bay you are ultimately targeting. (In the old days, it affected boot sector configuration, and partition ordering) 2) when in doubt, connect the source drive to External USB, its slower, but it it doesnt interfere. (I have not had to do this in 2-3 cycles of hardware, though) 3) After your restore, NEVER leave your old disk in on boot, or anything. The first time windows comes to life, it is kinda wigging out. It knows the drive changed. Giving it no choices helps. It boots up, and USUALLY requires you to reboot. 4) Sometimes drivers are required. I have had ONE case, where I had to put the SSD in, and windows installed some drivers to deal with it. I removed the SSD, and clean booted. The drivers stick around... Then booting worked. *** required if switching drive types in the old IDE/SCSI days *** 5) after you get the clean boot. Format your old HD externally and use it for storage via USB. Then put it back in the machine in the other bay. ** Note I ALMOST never EVER do this. Even with SSD upgrades. I set it aside as a FALLBACK Backup. ** If my SSD ever fails, I pop this guy in, and at least I am up and running, can start restores. I recently used this process with a single bay winten machine with the new super small SSD drives (as in a tablet). I had to buy a funky adapter to plug the original into USB. And I used an external DVD to boot from (I do this stuff a lot, still have DVDs with software). WORKED FIRST TIME, perfectly. HTH Kirk Out!
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To keep it short, over the weekend, I attempted to replace the spinning disk in my < 2yo laptop with a SSD. The laptop has a second hdd bay and I had bought the caddy and connector, so the idea was to install the drive and clone the existing drive to the new SSD, then simply change the boot device. Somewhere things went wrong and the system refuses to boot from the SSD. For the time being, I'm going to blame the cloning software until I get a chance to try another one. (I used the software which came with the SSD) Before I get too far, have others successfully cloned Winten? (or is it just me?) What I did: 0: install disk cloning software with license from SDD manufacturer (name withheld until proven incompetent) 1: create bootable USB with clone utilities 2: boot to USB and perform disk clone 3: boot to new drive...failed...looked promising at first...login screen comes up for a few seconds, then the screen goes black leaving just a spinning cursor. I left it that way for hours yesterday. No dice. :( 4: boot to safemode on original disk and disable sync services from cloning software (after reading about this issue on their website) 5: boot to USB again and repeat clone process 6: boot to new drive again and get almost the same thing as before, but now the screen just goes black...not even a cursor??? 7: think to self...'maybe I need to take the original drive out completely', so disassemble laptop and pull the original drive out...snap cover back on but leave the screws out 8: boot to the new drive again...bluescreen...problem with the device or something 9: move drive to now empty main drive bay...(does it matter?) 10: goto 8 :laugh: 11: reinstall original spinning drive back into main drive bay and we're back to square one!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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To keep it short, over the weekend, I attempted to replace the spinning disk in my < 2yo laptop with a SSD. The laptop has a second hdd bay and I had bought the caddy and connector, so the idea was to install the drive and clone the existing drive to the new SSD, then simply change the boot device. Somewhere things went wrong and the system refuses to boot from the SSD. For the time being, I'm going to blame the cloning software until I get a chance to try another one. (I used the software which came with the SSD) Before I get too far, have others successfully cloned Winten? (or is it just me?) What I did: 0: install disk cloning software with license from SDD manufacturer (name withheld until proven incompetent) 1: create bootable USB with clone utilities 2: boot to USB and perform disk clone 3: boot to new drive...failed...looked promising at first...login screen comes up for a few seconds, then the screen goes black leaving just a spinning cursor. I left it that way for hours yesterday. No dice. :( 4: boot to safemode on original disk and disable sync services from cloning software (after reading about this issue on their website) 5: boot to USB again and repeat clone process 6: boot to new drive again and get almost the same thing as before, but now the screen just goes black...not even a cursor??? 7: think to self...'maybe I need to take the original drive out completely', so disassemble laptop and pull the original drive out...snap cover back on but leave the screws out 8: boot to the new drive again...bluescreen...problem with the device or something 9: move drive to now empty main drive bay...(does it matter?) 10: goto 8 :laugh: 11: reinstall original spinning drive back into main drive bay and we're back to square one!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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kmoorevs wrote:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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