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TWCP OTD (The Who Cares Puzzle Of The Day) - 15th of February, 2017

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  • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

    WORKS LIKE AN ANT There is a meter long rope tight between two poles. An ant starts running at the speed of 1 cm/s from one end of the rope to the other. At same time the poles are moving back a 1/2 m/s each, stretching the rope (the rope is magical and can be stretched infinitely). Will the ant ever arrive?

    Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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    The ant never makes it to the end of the rope. The waveform set up by the flexing of the rope makes the ant dizzy and so he falls off. On his way to the ground he intercepts the path of an arrow that a tortoise has been struggling to run away from for quite some time.

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    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

      Or in other words - it will be a very-very old ant when getting off the rope...

      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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      Jon McKee
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      Approximately 8.547e+35 years if my math is correct :thumbsup:

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      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

        Can you explain it magyarul?

        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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        Nagy Vilmos
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        Egyszer volt egy kiss hangyat, egyszer nem volt. ;P

        veni bibi saltavi

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          Egyszer volt egy kiss hangyat, egyszer nem volt. ;P

          veni bibi saltavi

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          Google Translate[^]:

          Once there was a kiss ants, not once was

          Not sure if it's Google's Hungarian translator that's broken, or your Hungarian. :laugh:


          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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          • K krg

            The ant never makes it to the end of the rope. The waveform set up by the flexing of the rope makes the ant dizzy and so he falls off. On his way to the ground he intercepts the path of an arrow that a tortoise has been struggling to run away from for quite some time.

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            If the arrow doesn't get him, the bowl of petunias probably will. :-D


            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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            • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

              Google Translate[^]:

              Once there was a kiss ants, not once was

              Not sure if it's Google's Hungarian translator that's broken, or your Hungarian. :laugh:


              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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              Nagy Vilmos
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              I missed an auto correct, kis not kiss. Once there was a little mouse, once there wasn't. Every Hungarian folk tale starts this way.

              veni bibi saltavi

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              • J Jon McKee

                Approximately 8.547e+35 years if my math is correct :thumbsup:

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                Rajesh R Subramanian
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                Jon McKee wrote:

                Approximately 8.547e+35 years if my math is correct

                So, that's still younger than @OriginalGriff then.

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                • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                  WORKS LIKE AN ANT There is a meter long rope tight between two poles. An ant starts running at the speed of 1 cm/s from one end of the rope to the other. At same time the poles are moving back a 1/2 m/s each, stretching the rope (the rope is magical and can be stretched infinitely). Will the ant ever arrive?

                  Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                  Yes. The ant does not even need to move. Just stay there. Eventually, destination pole will touch the origin pole due to stretching and Earth being spherical (almost). At that point, just switch lanes. :cool:

                  "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                  • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                    Jon McKee wrote:

                    Approximately 8.547e+35 years if my math is correct

                    So, that's still younger than @OriginalGriff then.

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                    No, I only feel that old...

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                    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                      My mistake... I somehow stopped at the 'each other' part and cleared the '500 cm/s'... It is away - yes, but only at 50 cm/s... (but that's probably irrelevant anyway)

                      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                      James Curran
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                      SO, each second the ant moves 1cm closer to his goal, which moves approx 50cm further away from him in the same second.(actually, I think in the first second it move 99.5cm away). So, no, he's never going to reach it.

                      Truth, James

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                      • J Jon McKee

                        Approximately 8.547e+35 years if my math is correct :thumbsup:

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                        The problem did not specify that the ant is immortal. If it would take 8.547e+35 years then the answer is clearly no, the ant will not reach the other end. Ants don't generally live that long. ;P

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                        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                          WORKS LIKE AN ANT There is a meter long rope tight between two poles. An ant starts running at the speed of 1 cm/s from one end of the rope to the other. At same time the poles are moving back a 1/2 m/s each, stretching the rope (the rope is magical and can be stretched infinitely). Will the ant ever arrive?

                          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                          I would have thought by this time that version of the puzzle would have involved nano-bots. The first time it was trains; then cars; then people ...

                          "(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then". ― Blaise Pascal

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                          • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                            WORKS LIKE AN ANT There is a meter long rope tight between two poles. An ant starts running at the speed of 1 cm/s from one end of the rope to the other. At same time the poles are moving back a 1/2 m/s each, stretching the rope (the rope is magical and can be stretched infinitely). Will the ant ever arrive?

                            Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                            The ant will reach the end -- the part of the whole path he covers in a second is 0.01 / (1 + t), where t is time in seconds (the covered part doesn't decrease since the line extends uniformly). So the total part he has covered up to the time t is 0.01 * ln(1 + t), meaning he crosses whole path in exp(100) - 1 seconds (approx. 10^36 years).

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                            • J Jon McKee

                              Approximately 8.547e+35 years if my math is correct :thumbsup:

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                              speed of rope at distance x from centre is x/(t+1) (ant starts at x=-50, t=0) speed of ant is x/(t+1)+1 = dx/dt x=c(t+1)+(t+1)log(t+1) so -50=c ant arrives: 50=-50(t+1)+(t+1)log(t+1) let u=t+1 50(u+1)=u log u if u=exp(50), u log u = 50.u which is near enough

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                              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                No, I only feel that old...

                                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                I could assure you that you act younger than I am now and then. And that's actually a good thing. :-D

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