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  • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

    LOST One took a $100 bill from the register without being noticed. After that he collected goods worth $70 and payed with the stolen bill... The cashier - unaware of the theft - gave back the $30 change. How much was actually stolen from the shop?

    Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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    Mark_Wallace
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    I can't remember whose face is on the $100 bill, so I can't answer in a fitting manner.

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    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

      LOST One took a $100 bill from the register without being noticed. After that he collected goods worth $70 and payed with the stolen bill... The cashier - unaware of the theft - gave back the $30 change. How much was actually stolen from the shop?

      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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      Daniel Pfeffer
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      $100.

      -100: The person took $100 from the register.
      -70: The person purchased $70 goods from the shop.
      +100: The person paid $100 to the cashier.
      -30: The person received $30 change from the cashier.
      -100: Total

      If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

        LOST One took a $100 bill from the register without being noticed. After that he collected goods worth $70 and payed with the stolen bill... The cashier - unaware of the theft - gave back the $30 change. How much was actually stolen from the shop?

        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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        dan sh
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        100. 70 - worth goods 30 - cash charges: robbery and shoplifting among others (I guess)

        "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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          I can't remember whose face is on the $100 bill, so I can't answer in a fitting manner.

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          Daniel Pfeffer
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          Benjamin Franklin. Now, what's your answer?

          If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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            Benjamin Franklin. Now, what's your answer?

            If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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            Mark_Wallace
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            It can't be Benjamin Franklin, because someone said it in a bulletin board on the Internet. If [edit] you're Peter is [/edit] not counting funds returned to the store as non-stolen, which [edit] your Peter's [/edit] phrasing implies, it's $200.

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              Benjamin Franklin. Now, what's your answer?

              If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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              dan sh
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              Franklin, I don't know.

              "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                It can't be Benjamin Franklin, because someone said it in a bulletin board on the Internet. If [edit] you're Peter is [/edit] not counting funds returned to the store as non-stolen, which [edit] your Peter's [/edit] phrasing implies, it's $200.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                I will accept your solution if you give me half of your answer!

                Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                  LOST One took a $100 bill from the register without being noticed. After that he collected goods worth $70 and payed with the stolen bill... The cashier - unaware of the theft - gave back the $30 change. How much was actually stolen from the shop?

                  Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                  Amarnath S
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                  What was actually stolen was $100.

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                  • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                    I will accept your solution if you give me half of your answer!

                    Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                    Mark_Wallace
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                    Half of the answer is 21. Do you want that converted to Euro from 1924 Reichsmarks, or 1980s Italian Lire?

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                      Half of the answer is 21. Do you want that converted to Euro from 1924 Reichsmarks, or 1980s Italian Lire?

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      Reichsmarks... Based on this table: Collector values of old German banknotes[^]

                      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                      "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                        LOST One took a $100 bill from the register without being noticed. After that he collected goods worth $70 and payed with the stolen bill... The cashier - unaware of the theft - gave back the $30 change. How much was actually stolen from the shop?

                        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                        den2k88
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                        I'd say 170$. 100$, as 70$ return to the shop but other 70$ in goods go away. They cancel each other out. 100 were of the shop to begin with. 70 is the value of the goods the thief took, without paying good money. The change doesn't count as it affects only the implementation of the money exchange.

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                        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                          LOST One took a $100 bill from the register without being noticed. After that he collected goods worth $70 and payed with the stolen bill... The cashier - unaware of the theft - gave back the $30 change. How much was actually stolen from the shop?

                          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                          Nagy Vilmos
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                          According to complinated sums, the thief get's away with $100. ``` Action Thief Till Goods Start 0 0 0 Theft 100 -100 0 Goods 170 -100 -70 Payment 70 0 -70 Change 100 -30 -70 ```

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                          • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                            LOST One took a $100 bill from the register without being noticed. After that he collected goods worth $70 and payed with the stolen bill... The cashier - unaware of the theft - gave back the $30 change. How much was actually stolen from the shop?

                            Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                            What was the profit margin on the goods?

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                            • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                              Reichsmarks... Based on this table: Collector values of old German banknotes[^]

                              Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                              Mark_Wallace
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                              I said converted to; that's nothing to do with what collectors might pay.

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                                I said converted to; that's nothing to do with what collectors might pay.

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                                In that case pay mi directly in Rechsmarks - 21. In 1s and 5s please...

                                Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                  In that case pay mi directly in Rechsmarks - 21. In 1s and 5s please...

                                  Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                  Mark_Wallace
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                                  Euros only, as per our iron-clad agreement.

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                                  • D Daniel Pfeffer

                                    $100.

                                    -100: The person took $100 from the register.
                                    -70: The person purchased $70 goods from the shop.
                                    +100: The person paid $100 to the cashier.
                                    -30: The person received $30 change from the cashier.
                                    -100: Total

                                    If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                    Mark_Wallace
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                                    Ah, but there was nothing about the money being given back being counted as non-stolen. 0. He stole $11 Amount stolen = $100 1. He paid for goods with stolen money, from which he got change; i.e. he stole $100-worth of goods and change. Amount stolen = $100 Total amount stolen = $200 You have to remember the devious mind of the question-setter.

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                                    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                      LOST One took a $100 bill from the register without being noticed. After that he collected goods worth $70 and payed with the stolen bill... The cashier - unaware of the theft - gave back the $30 change. How much was actually stolen from the shop?

                                      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                      Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                                      How much was actually stolen from the shop?

                                      By definition the $100 was "stolen money" - giving it to the shop to pay for goods does not make it any less stolen Basically he stole $100, used stolen money to pay for the goods, and got change of $30 from money that was never his. The $100 was stolen, the goods were not paid for using his money, the change was received on money not his. Using stolen money even at the place you stole it from does not make it batter. "two wrongs do not make a right?" How much was actually stolen from the shop? NOT: How much did the thief get away with. Even though the cash register is only out $100 the total theft (by definition of theft and by law) was $200, add in the crime of using ill gotten proceeds - 3 strikes - he's down. It's English people, learn proper use of your language.

                                      Sin tack the any key okay

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                                      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                        LOST One took a $100 bill from the register without being noticed. After that he collected goods worth $70 and payed with the stolen bill... The cashier - unaware of the theft - gave back the $30 change. How much was actually stolen from the shop?

                                        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                        User 12831244
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                                        Nothing was stolen from the shop, but $100 was stolen from The Register: Sci/Tech News for the World[^] (Although how One managed that I do not know!)

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                                          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                                          How much was actually stolen from the shop?

                                          By definition the $100 was "stolen money" - giving it to the shop to pay for goods does not make it any less stolen Basically he stole $100, used stolen money to pay for the goods, and got change of $30 from money that was never his. The $100 was stolen, the goods were not paid for using his money, the change was received on money not his. Using stolen money even at the place you stole it from does not make it batter. "two wrongs do not make a right?" How much was actually stolen from the shop? NOT: How much did the thief get away with. Even though the cash register is only out $100 the total theft (by definition of theft and by law) was $200, add in the crime of using ill gotten proceeds - 3 strikes - he's down. It's English people, learn proper use of your language.

                                          Sin tack the any key okay

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                                          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                                          It is fascinating how math and ethics can differ... :thumbsup:

                                          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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