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Working from home... need to backup a large set of files each day.

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  • J Joan M

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

    www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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    Forogar
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    So you got the nostalgic nightmare I was aiming for! Sorry... really! :sigh: :doh:

    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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    • J Joan M

      Hello all, We have some big files that need to be sent from a remote computer to the company server each day. The work computer has a 10 MB DSL connection and the server has an optical fiber (50MB) connection. The remote worker is not tech savvy. I can imagine three ways of handling that: 1. Files stored in the local computer and send them each day to the remote server (via a scheduled backup that will run automatically at a certain hour). The computer user can shut the computer down at the evening. 2. Files stored in the local computer synchronized automatically using a kind of "Google Drive" that the server has natively included. 3. Files in the remote server and access them remotely via WebDAV or similar. Knowing that... what would you choose? And why? Thank you very much! :thumbsup:

      www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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      If they're not tech savvy, then they're probably using windows (you didn't say), so I'd suggest OneDrive if the files have to available locally to the user. With that, the files are locally cached and automatically synced to the cloud as they are changed. Just don't let the user put files elsewhere on their system, so maybe move all the microsoft directories to it. You'll get all their personal crap too, but hey, they're getting free backups of their person stuff, so they shouldn't complain. If the files don't need to be local with the user, then I agree with others -- have them remote desktop into a system at the company. That way you limit their person stuff, and you get to control what's installed on that machine, when (if) its virus checked, etc. If they're using a fruit, then you'll have to find an equivalent for that OS.

      We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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        If they're not tech savvy, then they're probably using windows (you didn't say), so I'd suggest OneDrive if the files have to available locally to the user. With that, the files are locally cached and automatically synced to the cloud as they are changed. Just don't let the user put files elsewhere on their system, so maybe move all the microsoft directories to it. You'll get all their personal crap too, but hey, they're getting free backups of their person stuff, so they shouldn't complain. If the files don't need to be local with the user, then I agree with others -- have them remote desktop into a system at the company. That way you limit their person stuff, and you get to control what's installed on that machine, when (if) its virus checked, etc. If they're using a fruit, then you'll have to find an equivalent for that OS.

        We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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        Joan M
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        Nah, the remote option will do it... Even the onedrive, google drive... options are there, there's too much data and it will be much easier to handle it by remoting. Thank you!

        www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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        • J Joan M

          Nah, the remote option will do it... Even the onedrive, google drive... options are there, there's too much data and it will be much easier to handle it by remoting. Thank you!

          www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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          patbob
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          I'd be impressed if an unsavvy user managed to touch 3 GB worth of files faster than it could be backed up. If they will alter 3 GB worth of files every day, and you need them backed up every night, and they can turn off their computer, then there really isn't any choice -- the files have to live on a server you control at your company or you won't reliably have backups of them.

          We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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            I'd be impressed if an unsavvy user managed to touch 3 GB worth of files faster than it could be backed up. If they will alter 3 GB worth of files every day, and you need them backed up every night, and they can turn off their computer, then there really isn't any choice -- the files have to live on a server you control at your company or you won't reliably have backups of them.

            We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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            Joan M
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            Non tech-savvy people have strange super powers that grant them the ability to destroy everything in seconds... You know... like leaving a bottle of tequila on the backspace key of a computer... :laugh:

            www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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            • J Joan M

              Hello all, We have some big files that need to be sent from a remote computer to the company server each day. The work computer has a 10 MB DSL connection and the server has an optical fiber (50MB) connection. The remote worker is not tech savvy. I can imagine three ways of handling that: 1. Files stored in the local computer and send them each day to the remote server (via a scheduled backup that will run automatically at a certain hour). The computer user can shut the computer down at the evening. 2. Files stored in the local computer synchronized automatically using a kind of "Google Drive" that the server has natively included. 3. Files in the remote server and access them remotely via WebDAV or similar. Knowing that... what would you choose? And why? Thank you very much! :thumbsup:

              www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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              MiddleTommy
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              Use Resilio Sync and forget about it. Resilio: File Synchronization Software for Enterprise, Business & Individuals[^]

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              • L Luc VdV WGG

                And think about security. The company's data remains at the company, it is never stored at the remote worker's home. For that alone, I prefer RDP for all remote workers by FAR.

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                Jeremy Falcon
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                Yeah, that too.

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                • M MiddleTommy

                  Use Resilio Sync and forget about it. Resilio: File Synchronization Software for Enterprise, Business & Individuals[^]

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                  Joan M
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                  It's a good suggestion, but given there will be only two positions... all the sending/receiving would be done between two computers so the p2p magic would be reduced to a kind of dropbox... and this solution is already in the server the company has. Thank you!

                  www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                  • J Joan M

                    Non tech-savvy people have strange super powers that grant them the ability to destroy everything in seconds... You know... like leaving a bottle of tequila on the backspace key of a computer... :laugh:

                    www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                    True. And there's far better places for that bottle of Tequila, like filling our glasses, something a lot of non tech-savvy people do seem to understand :) Good luck with the backup strategy for that user. Something tells me you're going to need it.. or a lot of that said Tequila :)

                    We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                    • M Mike Winiberg

                      For future reference, you should look into something like the rsync protocol (usually available by default on linux, but there are versions for windows too). This is designed to synchronise large files over slow connections, and hence exchanges CPU power for line speed, by hashing the contents of large files and only sending changed blocks within files: thus, if you have a 4Gb file where only 10 bytes gets added every day, instead of transmitting the whole file each time it is updated, it will only sync the block(s) that contain the changed bytes. I've used this to keep many Gb of data backed up off-site when I only had a 512k upload speed to do it. The initial backup can take a long time, but once its done...

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                      H Brydon
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                      We were not interested in continuous updates, but periodic updates upon demand. My understanding of rsync is that it runs continuously. Also, we weren't dealing with large files, but a mix, mostly small files.

                      I'm retired. There's a nap for that... - Harvey

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                      • H H Brydon

                        We were not interested in continuous updates, but periodic updates upon demand. My understanding of rsync is that it runs continuously. Also, we weren't dealing with large files, but a mix, mostly small files.

                        I'm retired. There's a nap for that... - Harvey

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                        Mike Winiberg
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                        Fair enough. My experience is that rsync still works well. You can schedule when it runs easily enough - backups were only done at night to avoid loading the slow broadband during the day when it was in use for news feeds etc.

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