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  • S Single Step Debugger

    My little girl is now big enough to have her own PC. Can you recommend some simple solution to restrict her access only to some particular sites, or even better - web categories? Can I achieve this just with the Win 10 firewall? And no, I don't need a monstrosities like Websense or group policies like Forefront. Thank you in advance!

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    Ron Anders
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    [Parental control software. Monitor and control your child's use of the Internet](https://www.softforyou.com/ip-index.html) This is great. We use it even on networks with adults at the mouse - because the owner asks for it.

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      My little girl is now big enough to have her own PC. Can you recommend some simple solution to restrict her access only to some particular sites, or even better - web categories? Can I achieve this just with the Win 10 firewall? And no, I don't need a monstrosities like Websense or group policies like Forefront. Thank you in advance!

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      Basildane
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      Been there. This is going to work for a year or two then forget it. My kids easily defeated all the http filtering. Setup their own VPN's. If you aren't careful, they may even hook into neighbors networks to bypass you. You won't win. :) (and I work in security)

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        My little girl is now big enough to have her own PC. Can you recommend some simple solution to restrict her access only to some particular sites, or even better - web categories? Can I achieve this just with the Win 10 firewall? And no, I don't need a monstrosities like Websense or group policies like Forefront. Thank you in advance!

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        dbrenth
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        I *DON'T* recommend Microsoft Family. You can tell it was designed by someone without children. (One of my pet peeves is programmers who don't use their own programs - or at least listen to their clients if they don't.) First you have to give even your youngest children e-mail addresses with the "secure" types of passwords (eight or more chars, caps, non-letters etc.) which YOU have to remember, because they won't. Then, once I decided to restrict when my teenager could use the computer. Microsoft Family wouldn't do it. It always went back to what I had originally entered - even after multiple reboots to make sure she wasn't logged in. I wrote a scathing letter to Microsoft - who probably tossed it in their trash bin.

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        • S Single Step Debugger

          My little girl is now big enough to have her own PC. Can you recommend some simple solution to restrict her access only to some particular sites, or even better - web categories? Can I achieve this just with the Win 10 firewall? And no, I don't need a monstrosities like Websense or group policies like Forefront. Thank you in advance!

          There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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          Richard Deeming
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          (Disclaimer: I don't have any kids. Take pity on my free time, long undisturbed nights, and disposable income! :D ) Tools are an important part of your protection strategy, but nothing is infallible. There are plenty of dangers on the Interwebz that won't get picked up by any tools. Whilst it's impractical to personally monitor your children all the time, it's probably a good idea to keep their computer in a "public" part of the house, with the screen visible to other members of the family as they pass. That way, you at least stand a chance of spotting the warning signs if anything untoward is going on. I'm sure you've already done this, but it's important to let your children know that if they ever encounter something that makes them feel uncomfortable, they should talk to a parent / guardian / teacher, and that they won't get into trouble by asking you for help. And make sure they know never to give out any personal details, and never to share any pictures or videos with anyone - or at the very least, anyone they don't know and trust IRL. And that, no, Justin Bieber / Wotsisface-out-of-Wand-Erection / «insert-latest-tweenybobber-pop-star-here» isn't going to start talking to them online. If anyone claims to be a celebrity to try to start a conversation, don't respond in any way, and tell a suitable adult ASAP. :~ 'Justin Bieber impostor' on 931 child sex-related charges - BBC News[^] As I say, probably all things you've already thought of and handled, but worth reiterating just in case.


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          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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          • S Single Step Debugger

            My little girl is now big enough to have her own PC. Can you recommend some simple solution to restrict her access only to some particular sites, or even better - web categories? Can I achieve this just with the Win 10 firewall? And no, I don't need a monstrosities like Websense or group policies like Forefront. Thank you in advance!

            There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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            raddevus
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            We used a product called SafeEyes for 5-7 years. Safe Eyes - Parental Control Software for Mac and PC[^] At times the interface was terrible, but it always allowed them to: 1. see valid safe sites 2. kept them from seeing bad content Advantages. *It provides a way to set up filters based upon each of their profiles. *Filters are mostly good as you just pick types of stuff you don't want them to see from categories. *You can unblock sites so that even if they're marked bad for some reason. *It even successfully blocks advertisements (adblock) for things you choose like weapons or lingerie. *You can see all of their searches -- to see if they are interested in something they shouldn't be *Searches can be filtered too. *Once you install it on their PC / laptop they cannot take the laptop to another network and get through to bad stuff. Even if they take a laptop to a friend's network (overnight stay or something) * You can remotely admin the software. -- very cool when they want to see a site and you're at work and it's obviously a safe site. Log in unblock the site and it will be available then. Disadvantages The software set up can be annoying. Sometimes in the past the Safe Eyes site would foul up. Setting up filters and getting it right takes time (but it's worth it) Sometimes the software (on kid's laptop) just went crazy and had to be rebooted. Check it out. It might be a lot better than what we had. Haven't used it for 3 years or so since kids are over 18 now.

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            • S Single Step Debugger

              My little girl is now big enough to have her own PC. Can you recommend some simple solution to restrict her access only to some particular sites, or even better - web categories? Can I achieve this just with the Win 10 firewall? And no, I don't need a monstrosities like Websense or group policies like Forefront. Thank you in advance!

              There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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              theoldfool
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              I agree with Richard, nothing is 100%. IMHO, you need a hardware device. We (business) use a firewall that has content filtering, Application Control (social networks, WebMail, etc) and anti-everything. Expensive, and includes yearly licensing. So, they can't do facebook, Tweedlydo, Instantsomethingorother, etc. They just use their smartphones, but not on our network. Probably next best thing is the suggestion for VPN services.

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                I *DON'T* recommend Microsoft Family. You can tell it was designed by someone without children. (One of my pet peeves is programmers who don't use their own programs - or at least listen to their clients if they don't.) First you have to give even your youngest children e-mail addresses with the "secure" types of passwords (eight or more chars, caps, non-letters etc.) which YOU have to remember, because they won't. Then, once I decided to restrict when my teenager could use the computer. Microsoft Family wouldn't do it. It always went back to what I had originally entered - even after multiple reboots to make sure she wasn't logged in. I wrote a scathing letter to Microsoft - who probably tossed it in their trash bin.

                Brent

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                Tim Carmichael
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                Hmmm... that is what we are using my out daughter. No issues, and she doesn't have an e-mail address, just a local account. We set her password, change is regularly, and enforce the amount of time she has. She gets prompted she has 15 minutes left for the day and regularly after that.. shuts her down when time is up.

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                • S Single Step Debugger

                  My little girl is now big enough to have her own PC. Can you recommend some simple solution to restrict her access only to some particular sites, or even better - web categories? Can I achieve this just with the Win 10 firewall? And no, I don't need a monstrosities like Websense or group policies like Forefront. Thank you in advance!

                  There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                  Joe Woodbury
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                  You could try K9 Web Protection - Free Internet Filter and Parental Control Software | Free Internet Filtering and Parental Controls Software[^]

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                  • S Single Step Debugger

                    My little girl is now big enough to have her own PC. Can you recommend some simple solution to restrict her access only to some particular sites, or even better - web categories? Can I achieve this just with the Win 10 firewall? And no, I don't need a monstrosities like Websense or group policies like Forefront. Thank you in advance!

                    There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                    DaveAuld
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                    1. Microsoft Family 2) Set the device up for OpenDNS [OpenDNS - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDNS) 3) Make sure Windows Defender is enabled for both Real time and Cloud Based protection 4) Wait for the weekly reports from Family to see what things they search for! :doh:

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                      We used a product called SafeEyes for 5-7 years. Safe Eyes - Parental Control Software for Mac and PC[^] At times the interface was terrible, but it always allowed them to: 1. see valid safe sites 2. kept them from seeing bad content Advantages. *It provides a way to set up filters based upon each of their profiles. *Filters are mostly good as you just pick types of stuff you don't want them to see from categories. *You can unblock sites so that even if they're marked bad for some reason. *It even successfully blocks advertisements (adblock) for things you choose like weapons or lingerie. *You can see all of their searches -- to see if they are interested in something they shouldn't be *Searches can be filtered too. *Once you install it on their PC / laptop they cannot take the laptop to another network and get through to bad stuff. Even if they take a laptop to a friend's network (overnight stay or something) * You can remotely admin the software. -- very cool when they want to see a site and you're at work and it's obviously a safe site. Log in unblock the site and it will be available then. Disadvantages The software set up can be annoying. Sometimes in the past the Safe Eyes site would foul up. Setting up filters and getting it right takes time (but it's worth it) Sometimes the software (on kid's laptop) just went crazy and had to be rebooted. Check it out. It might be a lot better than what we had. Haven't used it for 3 years or so since kids are over 18 now.

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                      Single Step Debugger
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                      Bummer! It's been swallowed from McAfee. :( And they killed it. :(

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                        You could try K9 Web Protection - Free Internet Filter and Parental Control Software | Free Internet Filtering and Parental Controls Software[^]

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                        Single Step Debugger
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                        Just installed it. Thanks!

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                        • S Single Step Debugger

                          My little girl is now big enough to have her own PC. Can you recommend some simple solution to restrict her access only to some particular sites, or even better - web categories? Can I achieve this just with the Win 10 firewall? And no, I don't need a monstrosities like Websense or group policies like Forefront. Thank you in advance!

                          There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                          Nelek
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                          In my opinion, it is better to educate than to restrict. My kid is still a baby, but at least this is what I will try to do. If you restrict, then you will wake up the attraction to the prohibited (or whatever the english expresion is).

                          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                            Been there. This is going to work for a year or two then forget it. My kids easily defeated all the http filtering. Setup their own VPN's. If you aren't careful, they may even hook into neighbors networks to bypass you. You won't win. :) (and I work in security)

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                            Nelek
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                            That's why I said, better to try to get them understand it and to teach them what it is "dangerous" than to restrict their use.

                            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                            • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                              (Disclaimer: I don't have any kids. Take pity on my free time, long undisturbed nights, and disposable income! :D ) Tools are an important part of your protection strategy, but nothing is infallible. There are plenty of dangers on the Interwebz that won't get picked up by any tools. Whilst it's impractical to personally monitor your children all the time, it's probably a good idea to keep their computer in a "public" part of the house, with the screen visible to other members of the family as they pass. That way, you at least stand a chance of spotting the warning signs if anything untoward is going on. I'm sure you've already done this, but it's important to let your children know that if they ever encounter something that makes them feel uncomfortable, they should talk to a parent / guardian / teacher, and that they won't get into trouble by asking you for help. And make sure they know never to give out any personal details, and never to share any pictures or videos with anyone - or at the very least, anyone they don't know and trust IRL. And that, no, Justin Bieber / Wotsisface-out-of-Wand-Erection / «insert-latest-tweenybobber-pop-star-here» isn't going to start talking to them online. If anyone claims to be a celebrity to try to start a conversation, don't respond in any way, and tell a suitable adult ASAP. :~ 'Justin Bieber impostor' on 931 child sex-related charges - BBC News[^] As I say, probably all things you've already thought of and handled, but worth reiterating just in case.


                              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                              Nelek
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                              This is what I will try with my kids:thumbsup::thumbsup:

                              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                Bummer! It's been swallowed from McAfee. :( And they killed it. :(

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                                Nelek
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                                Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                                McAfee.

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                                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                  In my opinion, it is better to educate than to restrict. My kid is still a baby, but at least this is what I will try to do. If you restrict, then you will wake up the attraction to the prohibited (or whatever the english expresion is).

                                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                  Not if you honestly describe to your kid what a shithole is now internet and that this restricting application will help her to navigate her way through this dangerous waters. It worked with my little girl. But it's not very smart to put all your money on your divine ability to enchant small people's mind with your tongue (wtf did i just write?). My teenage step daughter, that moderately despises me, would let me go on and on describing basic rules of save internet surfing, until the next day will infect all our computers with formidable collection of spyware and viruses...again!

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                                  • S Single Step Debugger

                                    My little girl is now big enough to have her own PC. Can you recommend some simple solution to restrict her access only to some particular sites, or even better - web categories? Can I achieve this just with the Win 10 firewall? And no, I don't need a monstrosities like Websense or group policies like Forefront. Thank you in advance!

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                                    Kirk 10389821
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                                    Well, mine started at 2 with her own computer (removed the windows key, and a few others from the keyboard). So, if young enough. Consider putting browser in kiosk mode, and YOU creating links to every site she needs. A Whitelist approach. Mine is 17 now, does not have social media, except now getting a snapchat account for graduation. I still believe a Whitelist approach is best, and you should have to go there and add in what you want. Helping to develop the relationship that although there is stuff out there, it does not always mean it should be consumed or trusted randomly. And she spent a LOT of time on sites like: IwasteSoMuchTime, reddit, etc. In fact, it helped me to stay on top of what her world of influence is. HTH

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                                      At fist glance this is exactly what I was fishing for. Thanks!

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                                      Bruce Patin
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                                      I tried OpenDNS for awhile. But they always found a way around it. I think Steam bypassed it. Also, the OpenDNS database is always out of date. Eventually, I gave up and felt obligated to show them how to bypass DNS hacks and one of them even built a proxy to bypass the restrictions on their school system. I'm proud of them.

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                                      • S Single Step Debugger

                                        My little girl is now big enough to have her own PC. Can you recommend some simple solution to restrict her access only to some particular sites, or even better - web categories? Can I achieve this just with the Win 10 firewall? And no, I don't need a monstrosities like Websense or group policies like Forefront. Thank you in advance!

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                                        Charles Programmer
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                                        You could try the UTM, Untangle.

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                                        • S Single Step Debugger

                                          My little girl is now big enough to have her own PC. Can you recommend some simple solution to restrict her access only to some particular sites, or even better - web categories? Can I achieve this just with the Win 10 firewall? And no, I don't need a monstrosities like Websense or group policies like Forefront. Thank you in advance!

                                          There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                                          Gilbert Consellado
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                                          I will recommend K9 Web Protection from bluecoat. It's easy to setup and tested on my case and its free for personal use.

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