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Lots of issues with this, but I guess that's people for you. Look at the usage by country and see how large India is yet look at the self-reported ethnicity, very few South Asians. I bet the vast majority of site users are South Asian, however they are not the ones most likely to take the survey, it is only the people who answer the questions who will take the survey and everyone else just wants their code, urgent. Look at the years of experience...very few have 15-20 years experience but 17% have 20 years. Why so few with 19 years but so many with 20? What happened 20 years ago? The people who are relatively new (1-5) are probably answering honestly whereas everyone else is self-reporting 20+ years due to some form of internal bias toward how they view themselves in terms of experience. Look at the most common languages...across all types (web, desktop, devops and data) javascript is the most common. What js does a desktop developer do? Again people are simply incorrectly self-reporting what they do. It's not so much a survey as to how the community is, more how the community wants to be.
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majority of developers said they were underpaid
FMD, what an insight!!! A majority of people always think that, from the unemployed through to fat-cat directors.
Only 13.1% of developers are actively looking for a job
Given that most of the respondants are already employed meants 13% if they are 'attively looking' really means they are very disatistfied, that's actually quite a high number, it's really not an "only."
But 75.2% of developers are interested in hearing about new job opportunities
Again everybody doesn't mind 'hearing about' new opportunites, the cleaner wants to know, the boss is interested too, heck even most priests will listen for new gigs - again completely normal, human nature even. after that stopped looking. How can 'experts' publish such drivel, clearly these people are way overpaid.
Sin tack the any key okay
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majority of developers said they were underpaid
FMD, what an insight!!! A majority of people always think that, from the unemployed through to fat-cat directors.
Only 13.1% of developers are actively looking for a job
Given that most of the respondants are already employed meants 13% if they are 'attively looking' really means they are very disatistfied, that's actually quite a high number, it's really not an "only."
But 75.2% of developers are interested in hearing about new job opportunities
Again everybody doesn't mind 'hearing about' new opportunites, the cleaner wants to know, the boss is interested too, heck even most priests will listen for new gigs - again completely normal, human nature even. after that stopped looking. How can 'experts' publish such drivel, clearly these people are way overpaid.
Sin tack the any key okay
Lopatir wrote:
How can 'experts' publish such drivel,
I think you are probably taking it way too seriously. Definitely more serious than I did. It's just stats from a survey they took, I don't think they were trying to draw scientific conclusions or prove the earth is flat with this.
Lopatir wrote:
But 75.2% of developers are interested in hearing about new job opportunities
It is an interesting stat to me because I would have expected it to be higher, as you said.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Lopatir wrote:
How can 'experts' publish such drivel,
I think you are probably taking it way too seriously. Definitely more serious than I did. It's just stats from a survey they took, I don't think they were trying to draw scientific conclusions or prove the earth is flat with this.
Lopatir wrote:
But 75.2% of developers are interested in hearing about new job opportunities
It is an interesting stat to me because I would have expected it to be higher, as you said.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
RyanDev wrote:
Lopatir wrote:
But 75.2% of developers are interested in hearing about new job opportunities
It is an interesting stat to me because I would have expected it to be higher, as you said.
Maybe the other 24.8% worried the bas was watching their replies :^)
Sin tack the any key okay
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Lots of issues with this, but I guess that's people for you. Look at the usage by country and see how large India is yet look at the self-reported ethnicity, very few South Asians. I bet the vast majority of site users are South Asian, however they are not the ones most likely to take the survey, it is only the people who answer the questions who will take the survey and everyone else just wants their code, urgent. Look at the years of experience...very few have 15-20 years experience but 17% have 20 years. Why so few with 19 years but so many with 20? What happened 20 years ago? The people who are relatively new (1-5) are probably answering honestly whereas everyone else is self-reporting 20+ years due to some form of internal bias toward how they view themselves in terms of experience. Look at the most common languages...across all types (web, desktop, devops and data) javascript is the most common. What js does a desktop developer do? Again people are simply incorrectly self-reporting what they do. It's not so much a survey as to how the community is, more how the community wants to be.
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
Look at the years of experience...very few have 15-20 years experience but 17% have 20 years. Why so few with 19 years but so many with 20? What happened 20 years ago? The people who are relatively new (1-5) are probably answering honestly whereas everyone else is self-reporting 20+ years due to some form of internal bias toward how they view themselves in terms of experience.
Quick look but ~9% have 15-20 and 17% have 20+. I think the + is the key here, as it is open ended (to a degree, factoring in life expectancy and how long development as a practice has existed).
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Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
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Disability Status: Unable to type!!! :confused::doh:
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the timeThis was posted a month or so ago: Using Python to Code by Voice - YouTube[^]
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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This was posted a month or so ago: Using Python to Code by Voice - YouTube[^]
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
That's great! Now they just have to find a solution for the other major SO disability: Unable to think ;)
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
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That's great! Now they just have to find a solution for the other major SO disability: Unable to think ;)
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the timeJohnny J. wrote:
Now they just have to find a solution for the other major SO disability: Unable to think ;)
Easier said than done. QA here is a dumpsterfire for the same reason.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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That's great! Now they just have to find a solution for the other major SO disability: Unable to think ;)
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the timeWell with ms and google doing ai won't need devs: - the next version of vs will bing it's own solutions and produce more kindergarten style store apps, - all it'll take is one bright spark to switch the search engine to google and voilà: end of the need for devs ... and all other humans
Sin tack the any key okay
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Johnny J. wrote:
Now they just have to find a solution for the other major SO disability: Unable to think ;)
Easier said than done. QA here is a dumpsterfire for the same reason.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
Yeah, well, but that could be completely avoided if somebody would just Send the codez plzzzz! :doh:
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
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They should have asked how many had marked a question they didn't know the answer to as 'off topic'.