Religion of peace
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How convenient
Well, there is an outside chance that he wasn't there, at the time.
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Well, there is an outside chance that he wasn't there, at the time.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
He understands very what I mean by "remember".
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Yup. "Radical muslims" has become a buzzword, now. Such buzzwords are needed, because the budgets to "make war" on ter'r'rism (by spying on decent people and treating them like sh1t) can only be signed off on if "the people" are up in arms about it. It's all bollocks, Mate. You're being led by the nose to the slaughterhouse by your own government and "security forces". Rather than worry about the very, very few @rseholes with no resources who call themselves ter'r'rists, you should worry about the far greater number of @rseholes who are using this "war on ter'r'rism" to spend all your hard-earned tax money on denying you your legal and human rights.
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
your legal and human rights.
Which legal and human rights are being denied to me?
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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The recent pictures of the attacker don't look asian to me. In fact, the suspect is named Abu Izzadeen from Clapton in Hackney. Not asian origin.
Slacker007 wrote:
from Clapton in Hackney
Well - from here he's obviously from the East. Pretty Far East, at that . . . from here.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Maybe, and I realised at the time of posting I might end up with egg on my face. But I think we both know I'm more than likely right. There's two types of "humans" that kill innocent people randomly in this manner. Radicals and nutters. And a nutter probably wouldn't choose the heart of democracy. The location has enough symbolism to tell you what motivated this.
Pom Pey wrote:
Maybe, and I realised at the time of posting I might end up with egg on my face. But I think we both know I'm more than likely right.
What you write here is wrong on so many level - especially tied into your sourcing yourself (earlier) as depending upon social media. You pick the news, source notwithstanding, and then echo it out into the world. Now, you've broadcast what you would like the news to be - - finally, you say that you know you might be wrong about the whole thing - but we 'know' you're more likely right . . . so the fake news which you picked because you like it and know might be wrong is still justified by your own judgement about the self importance of how you feel things should be. Basically, it implies that even if it's wrong we should all know that it should be right. Messed up. Really. And worse: You're not alone
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
your legal and human rights.
Which legal and human rights are being denied to me?
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
In your case, all of 'em, if it were up to me.
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He understands very what I mean by "remember".
Well, maybe he's not alone in choosing what to and what not to remember/understand/etc. Every man has blinkers. Have you ever tried to see your own?
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Well, maybe he's not alone in choosing what to and what not to remember/understand/etc. Every man has blinkers. Have you ever tried to see your own?
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
Well, maybe he's not alone in choosing what to and what not to remember/understand/etc.
That is right. Part of the human nature. But all major religions are violent, including Christianity. Good example of this are the crusades and the inquisitions.
Mark_Wallace wrote:
Have you ever tried to see your own?
I don't have any, I am perfect. :rolleyes:
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
Well, maybe he's not alone in choosing what to and what not to remember/understand/etc.
That is right. Part of the human nature. But all major religions are violent, including Christianity. Good example of this are the crusades and the inquisitions.
Mark_Wallace wrote:
Have you ever tried to see your own?
I don't have any, I am perfect. :rolleyes:
Le centriste wrote:
all major religions are violent
I wouldn't go that far. What I'd say is that all religions are followed by people -- and the rest is obvious, if you dedicate three minutes to thinking about it.
Le centriste wrote:
I don't have any, I am perfect
And I'm always happy to listen to honest opinions.
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In your case, all of 'em, if it were up to me.
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
In your case
I'm flattered that I am special to you even though we have never met and you know nothing about me. You must be a stalker. Why didn't you answer the question? It was a very simple and straightforward question. Surely if you are going to claim over and over that rights are being taken away that you could at least answer that one simple question. You might even be right. I couldn't think of any so I was asking. Simple. Or should have been.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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How convenient
Well that was the point. I don't remember because I wasn't there. It was a very long time ago. It's irrelevant as we're talking about now. I use to shit in myself daily a long time ago. My mum use to put a nappy on me to prevent it soiling my clothes. She doesn't do that anymore though.
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Slacker007 wrote:
He killed 4 people so far
No, he didn't. The police killed at least one of the four. But if you're convinced that the occasional psychopathic w@nker like this is worth giving up half your taxes and two-thirds of your human rights, then there's probably no point in discussing it further. Here's a more credible perspective, for you: If the amount of money that is spent on treating decent people like sh1t, under the guise of "anti-ter'r'rism", were to be spent on wiping out organised crime, then there would be no more organised crime. Organised crime kills several orders of magnitude more people than ter'r'rists ever have or ever will kill, and ruins more lives than you could count -- but it also lines the pockets of a lot of people, so we don't want to put a stop to that, do we? Upwardly wake and the coffee smell, eh? The general populace gains nothing from this "war on ter'r'rism". All the money and power goes to people who want to treat the general populace like sh1t.
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
but it also lines the pockets of a lot of people, so we don't want to put a stop to that, do we?
We do... they don't And those whose pockets are filled, are usually the ones who would have the power to start a relevant fight against them...
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
And who is "them"?
Radical Muslims that want to hurt non-muslims. I am of the mindset that you are a strong liberal/socialist ( I could be wrong) and that is fine. When the story broke out here in the States and when I went online it was clear that the suspect was a radical Muslim based on the information presented to me. I hate radical Muslims who want to hurt/kill non-muslims and non-radical muslims. If that makes me the bad guy, then I am glad to be that bad guy. I voted for Trump because he wants to keep radical Muslims who want to hurt/kill non-radical muslims out of my country. Maybe England, Scotland, Ireland, etc. should do the same. Just a thought.
Slacker007 wrote:
I hate radical Muslims who want to hurt/kill non-muslims and non-radical muslims.
What is the difference between radical football fans that want to kill the fans of the other team? or with the radical Christians that want to kill (and killed during the crusades) all the "barbarists"? or with the radical closed minds that want to kill everyone whose color is different to their? or... and I don't even want to start with economical / political reasons On the other hand... and quoting (yoda I think)... People fear what don't understand, hate what they fear and destroy what they hate. On the other hand another time... I do agree with you and have a problem with those who want to use violence (no matter the reason). But I (and I think Pete) have a problem with generalisms that only contribute to spread that "hate" to other people (and making that "other people" grow due to that generalism) 1 radical idiot like this... 10 person sharing hate to radical muslims --> 100 people sharing their hate to muslims (note the absence of "radical") I think you get the idea. The biggest problem is: We are just nuts as a specie.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
And who is "them"?
Radical Muslims that want to hurt non-muslims. I am of the mindset that you are a strong liberal/socialist ( I could be wrong) and that is fine. When the story broke out here in the States and when I went online it was clear that the suspect was a radical Muslim based on the information presented to me. I hate radical Muslims who want to hurt/kill non-muslims and non-radical muslims. If that makes me the bad guy, then I am glad to be that bad guy. I voted for Trump because he wants to keep radical Muslims who want to hurt/kill non-radical muslims out of my country. Maybe England, Scotland, Ireland, etc. should do the same. Just a thought.
Slacker007 wrote:
I voted for Trump because he wants to keep radical Muslims
and the non radical muslims, and the mexicans, and...
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Slacker007 wrote:
I hate radical Muslims who want to hurt/kill non-muslims and non-radical muslims.
What is the difference between radical football fans that want to kill the fans of the other team? or with the radical Christians that want to kill (and killed during the crusades) all the "barbarists"? or with the radical closed minds that want to kill everyone whose color is different to their? or... and I don't even want to start with economical / political reasons On the other hand... and quoting (yoda I think)... People fear what don't understand, hate what they fear and destroy what they hate. On the other hand another time... I do agree with you and have a problem with those who want to use violence (no matter the reason). But I (and I think Pete) have a problem with generalisms that only contribute to spread that "hate" to other people (and making that "other people" grow due to that generalism) 1 radical idiot like this... 10 person sharing hate to radical muslims --> 100 people sharing their hate to muslims (note the absence of "radical") I think you get the idea. The biggest problem is: We are just nuts as a specie.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
I thinkk the issue with some of your comparisons there is that Islam as a religion has not yet moderated some of its core teachings to the point where Islamic fundamentalism is just not a thing, which let's face it, it shouldn't be. Western religions, violent as they were, are no longer violent. (The Troubles in the North were a race/political conflict.) There are not enough senior Muslims denouncing those who use the more crazy teachings of the Koran as an excuse for their wars. All religions have some concept of the "Missionary" who goes forth to spread the religion. The directive to spread whatever religion you happen to hold is not a new one. But Islam has jihadists instead of missionaries.
Nelek wrote:
The biggest problem is: We are just nuts as a specie.
Not quite ready to give up on us yet.
One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I don't know.
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I thinkk the issue with some of your comparisons there is that Islam as a religion has not yet moderated some of its core teachings to the point where Islamic fundamentalism is just not a thing, which let's face it, it shouldn't be. Western religions, violent as they were, are no longer violent. (The Troubles in the North were a race/political conflict.) There are not enough senior Muslims denouncing those who use the more crazy teachings of the Koran as an excuse for their wars. All religions have some concept of the "Missionary" who goes forth to spread the religion. The directive to spread whatever religion you happen to hold is not a new one. But Islam has jihadists instead of missionaries.
Nelek wrote:
The biggest problem is: We are just nuts as a specie.
Not quite ready to give up on us yet.
One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I don't know.
Mel Padden wrote:
Western religions, violent as they were, are no longer violent.
Might be that the religion is not violent anymore, but there is still violent people using the name of god / the religion to justify their acts, what for me is still pretty similar to islamism (which per se is not violent as well)
Mel Padden wrote:
Not quite ready to give up on us yet.
Neither do I, but the opposite to optimist is pesimist, not realist.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.