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So I think Edge might finally be a good browser.

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  • Z ZurdoDev

    Mike Marynowski wrote:

    I never asked you to believe me.

    This site is very anti-Microsoft. So, if you say you like anything Microsoft then you must be a fanboi and you must be working for Microsoft. That is the intellectual level of most that will respond. :^)

    There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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    It's funny you say that because this site is primarily a Microsoft-centered site.

    #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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      It's funny you say that because this site is primarily a Microsoft-centered site.

      #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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      It is surprising. Bite the hand that feeds you comes to mind.

      There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      • M Mike Marynowski

        I have been trying out Edge after most major updates since Windows 10 came out and always ended up hating it and going back to Chrome, but I think that has changed after this Creator's Update. Chrome seems to me like it has been getting slower and slower. Scrolling performance leaves a lot to be desired these days, and the latest update has tabs regularly freezing up for 5 seconds at a time on all my computers (1 mac laptop and 2 PCs). The one thing I really like about Edge is that it certainly feels a lot more responsive and the scrolling is buttery smooth. The only thing I'm kind of on the fence about is Edge's font rendering. Chrome has much smoother looking fonts, whereas Edge gives text a bit more contrast but it seems to come at the expense of smoothness. I don't think that will continue to be an issue after upgrading to a high DPI ultrawide in the near future, but it's a bit of an issue on my plebian 96 DPI monitor at the moment (although I do like the 30" of glorious real-estate). I removed my Chrome taskbar shortcuts and completely made the switch a few days ago and I gotta say I think I enjoy Edge more overall now. Anyone else try to make the transition after Creator's Update? What were your thoughts?

        Blog: [Code Index] By Mike Marynowski | Business: Singulink

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        R Giskard Reventlov
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        Until I can pin the favorites sidebar to the left and persist that across sessions, I have no interest. It would probably be a trivial change for the Edge team to make.

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          Until I can pin the favorites sidebar to the left and persist that across sessions, I have no interest. It would probably be a trivial change for the Edge team to make.

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          Mike Marynowski
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          You can pin it to the right and persist it across sessions. That's pretty close I think, haha.

          Blog: [Code Index] By Mike Marynowski | Business: Singulink

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          • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

            It's funny you say that because this site is primarily a Microsoft-centered site.

            #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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            Mike Marynowski
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            I was thinking the same thing haha.

            Blog: [Code Index] By Mike Marynowski | Business: Singulink

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            • M Mark_Wallace

              So it won't work with windows 8? Damn!

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              Mike Marynowski
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              Are you saying that you're still on Windows 8? Oh man, I feel sorry for ya.

              Blog: [Code Index] By Mike Marynowski | Business: Singulink

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              • M Mike Marynowski

                You can pin it to the right and persist it across sessions. That's pretty close I think, haha.

                Blog: [Code Index] By Mike Marynowski | Business: Singulink

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                R Giskard Reventlov
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                Only if you live in the bizarro universe... :laugh:

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                • R R Giskard Reventlov

                  Only if you live in the bizarro universe... :laugh:

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                  What do you mean? You can pin it and persist it. Just not on the side you're used to, sure, but that's actually pretty close to what you're looking for, isn't it? Or am I missing something?

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                  • M Mike Marynowski

                    What do you mean? You can pin it and persist it. Just not on the side you're used to, sure, but that's actually pretty close to what you're looking for, isn't it? Or am I missing something?

                    Blog: [Code Index] By Mike Marynowski | Business: Singulink

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                    R Giskard Reventlov
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                    I mean that's nice but no banana. I want it on the left. It would be trivial for MS to allow that and, until they do, I will stay with Chrome. On top of which, it does not persist across sessions. If I close Edge the tab is hidden when I next open it. Oh, and I was being a tad sarcastic. :sigh:

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                    • M Mike Marynowski

                      Are you saying that you're still on Windows 8? Oh man, I feel sorry for ya.

                      Blog: [Code Index] By Mike Marynowski | Business: Singulink

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                      Mark_Wallace
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                      This lappy I'm using right now is 8.1 -- but you wouldn't recognise it as being so. I used a subtle method known as "hacking the living cr@p out of the registry" to make it useable.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                        It's funny you say that because this site is primarily a Microsoft-centered site.

                        #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                        I think that's the problem. We all meet so many good things that MS don't shout about at all - Visual Studio springs to mind, as does SQL Server - that when we meet (or worse have to work with) the total stinkers that they push, push, push as the best thing since sliced bread - Vista, Win8, Win10, Edge, and Word all leap to the foreground - we get all cynical and think "F 'em!" because we know how right they can get it when they try. And we also know how stubborn MS can be, even in the face of near universal distaste. Since most users don't meet the real gems, they assume the dross is the best it can get, and we know different.

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                        • R R Giskard Reventlov

                          I mean that's nice but no banana. I want it on the left. It would be trivial for MS to allow that and, until they do, I will stay with Chrome. On top of which, it does not persist across sessions. If I close Edge the tab is hidden when I next open it. Oh, and I was being a tad sarcastic. :sigh:

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                          Mike Marynowski
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                          Haha, well, I tried it on my computer and it stays open if I close and re-open Edge s o :~ Did you actually try it after the Creator's Edition update?

                          Blog: [Code Index] By Mike Marynowski | Business: Singulink

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                            I think that's the problem. We all meet so many good things that MS don't shout about at all - Visual Studio springs to mind, as does SQL Server - that when we meet (or worse have to work with) the total stinkers that they push, push, push as the best thing since sliced bread - Vista, Win8, Win10, Edge, and Word all leap to the foreground - we get all cynical and think "F 'em!" because we know how right they can get it when they try. And we also know how stubborn MS can be, even in the face of near universal distaste. Since most users don't meet the real gems, they assume the dross is the best it can get, and we know different.

                            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                            Too true!

                            #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                              I think that's the problem. We all meet so many good things that MS don't shout about at all - Visual Studio springs to mind, as does SQL Server - that when we meet (or worse have to work with) the total stinkers that they push, push, push as the best thing since sliced bread - Vista, Win8, Win10, Edge, and Word all leap to the foreground - we get all cynical and think "F 'em!" because we know how right they can get it when they try. And we also know how stubborn MS can be, even in the face of near universal distaste. Since most users don't meet the real gems, they assume the dross is the best it can get, and we know different.

                              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                              Mark_Wallace
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                              Spot on. The problem is that VS is designed and made by developers for developers, and everything else is designed and made by developers who have to do what marketing morons tell them to do.

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              • M Mike Marynowski

                                Haha, well, I tried it on my computer and it stays open if I close and re-open Edge s o :~ Did you actually try it after the Creator's Edition update?

                                Blog: [Code Index] By Mike Marynowski | Business: Singulink

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                                R Giskard Reventlov
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                                Thanks for the heads up - I'll try it later and see if it has become usable. :thumbsup:

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                                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                  I'm not going to try it, or at least not by preference. Microsoft can shout about how good it is until they are blue in the face - but I remember that they shouted really loudly all over the TV that it was wonderful for the first one and that was a total lie, as you well know. The only good thing about that one was "you could use it to download Chrome"! So why should I believe a random person who - as far as I know - could well be working for the MS marketing department? :laugh:

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                                  Nelek
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                                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                                  Microsoft can shout about how good it is until they are blue in the face

                                  I thought blue was already reserved for the screen of dead :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                  • M Mark_Wallace

                                    Hey, if I have to explain a joke... ... I probably should have written it better in the first place :(

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                                    Nelek
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                                    What about using the joke icon? ;P

                                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                    • M Mike Marynowski

                                      I have been trying out Edge after most major updates since Windows 10 came out and always ended up hating it and going back to Chrome, but I think that has changed after this Creator's Update. Chrome seems to me like it has been getting slower and slower. Scrolling performance leaves a lot to be desired these days, and the latest update has tabs regularly freezing up for 5 seconds at a time on all my computers (1 mac laptop and 2 PCs). The one thing I really like about Edge is that it certainly feels a lot more responsive and the scrolling is buttery smooth. The only thing I'm kind of on the fence about is Edge's font rendering. Chrome has much smoother looking fonts, whereas Edge gives text a bit more contrast but it seems to come at the expense of smoothness. I don't think that will continue to be an issue after upgrading to a high DPI ultrawide in the near future, but it's a bit of an issue on my plebian 96 DPI monitor at the moment (although I do like the 30" of glorious real-estate). I removed my Chrome taskbar shortcuts and completely made the switch a few days ago and I gotta say I think I enjoy Edge more overall now. Anyone else try to make the transition after Creator's Update? What were your thoughts?

                                      Blog: [Code Index] By Mike Marynowski | Business: Singulink

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                                      My experience is the total opposite...The Edge experience when using it to run MS Dynamics CRM clients is just bad. I reverted to IE 11. Even Chrome run better when loading Dynamics CRM pages. Don't they test their browsers on their own products especially one such as MS Dynamics CRM?

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                                        I have been trying out Edge after most major updates since Windows 10 came out and always ended up hating it and going back to Chrome, but I think that has changed after this Creator's Update. Chrome seems to me like it has been getting slower and slower. Scrolling performance leaves a lot to be desired these days, and the latest update has tabs regularly freezing up for 5 seconds at a time on all my computers (1 mac laptop and 2 PCs). The one thing I really like about Edge is that it certainly feels a lot more responsive and the scrolling is buttery smooth. The only thing I'm kind of on the fence about is Edge's font rendering. Chrome has much smoother looking fonts, whereas Edge gives text a bit more contrast but it seems to come at the expense of smoothness. I don't think that will continue to be an issue after upgrading to a high DPI ultrawide in the near future, but it's a bit of an issue on my plebian 96 DPI monitor at the moment (although I do like the 30" of glorious real-estate). I removed my Chrome taskbar shortcuts and completely made the switch a few days ago and I gotta say I think I enjoy Edge more overall now. Anyone else try to make the transition after Creator's Update? What were your thoughts?

                                        Blog: [Code Index] By Mike Marynowski | Business: Singulink

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                                        I'm using the EDGE from the first version, and although I also use Chrome and IE, now EDGE is my default one. If they continue to improve it, it may end up being my only one.

                                        Sorry for my bad English

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                                        • M Mike Marynowski

                                          I have been trying out Edge after most major updates since Windows 10 came out and always ended up hating it and going back to Chrome, but I think that has changed after this Creator's Update. Chrome seems to me like it has been getting slower and slower. Scrolling performance leaves a lot to be desired these days, and the latest update has tabs regularly freezing up for 5 seconds at a time on all my computers (1 mac laptop and 2 PCs). The one thing I really like about Edge is that it certainly feels a lot more responsive and the scrolling is buttery smooth. The only thing I'm kind of on the fence about is Edge's font rendering. Chrome has much smoother looking fonts, whereas Edge gives text a bit more contrast but it seems to come at the expense of smoothness. I don't think that will continue to be an issue after upgrading to a high DPI ultrawide in the near future, but it's a bit of an issue on my plebian 96 DPI monitor at the moment (although I do like the 30" of glorious real-estate). I removed my Chrome taskbar shortcuts and completely made the switch a few days ago and I gotta say I think I enjoy Edge more overall now. Anyone else try to make the transition after Creator's Update? What were your thoughts?

                                          Blog: [Code Index] By Mike Marynowski | Business: Singulink

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                                          Mike Marynowski wrote:

                                          The only thing I'm kind of on the fence about is Edge's font rendering. Chrome has much smoother looking fonts,

                                          That's odd. I find the opposite to be true. Maybe it's just a matter of how the individual computers are set up?

                                          We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc.

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