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To Native English speakers : "Double down" meaning

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  • S super

    Can anyone explain in layman terms what does "double down" means when news says " XYZ has doubled down from the last allegation he made"? I assume that it means backing down or recalling the earlier statement or rhetoric ?

    cheers,

    Super

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    englebart
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    Did XYZ reaffirm the original allegation, and then take it one step further by adding new allegations? "Double down" from the black jack card game is an opportunity to split a single hand (initial allegation) into 2 hands (more allegations).

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    • S super

      Can anyone explain in layman terms what does "double down" means when news says " XYZ has doubled down from the last allegation he made"? I assume that it means backing down or recalling the earlier statement or rhetoric ?

      cheers,

      Super

      ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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      Lost User
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      Per example when Trump says that global warming is a hoax, people respond with outrage and tell him he let them down. When the next day he responds to that that the global warming is a hoax perpetrated by the chinese in order to harm the american coal industry, he let everybody double down and made himself look twice as stupid, hence the double down.

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      • P PIEBALDconsult

        As has been said, it's a term from playing cards. However; here may be the wrong context for that term, the proper card-related term to use here may be "bluff". In blackjack, when you feel you have a strong hand, you may double-down. In poker, when you feel you do not have a strong hand, you may bluff -- in an effort to make others think you do have a strong hand This is (or may be) an example of the reporter showing bias in favor of XYZ. Or, more likely, that the reporter just doesn't understand the words he's using.

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        jfren484
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        I think it's correctly used. I think it's saying the reporter is continuing to make the same accusation he/she made against XYZ previously and is even more determined in that approach, as opposed to switching tactics or asking different questions.

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        • S super

          Can anyone explain in layman terms what does "double down" means when news says " XYZ has doubled down from the last allegation he made"? I assume that it means backing down or recalling the earlier statement or rhetoric ?

          cheers,

          Super

          ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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          wabbott veeva
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          It usually means that someone has taken a position or made a statement. When they are challenged on their position or statement instead of 'backing down', they 'double down' on the original position or statement by committing to it more strongly than before. Example: Mr. Ahmadinejad expressed doubt that the Holocaust ever happened. When confronted by the press about this statement, instead of back-tracking he 'doubled down' on his original statement by saying that he was quite certain there had been no significant persecution of Jews in Europe ever.

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          • S super

            Can anyone explain in layman terms what does "double down" means when news says " XYZ has doubled down from the last allegation he made"? I assume that it means backing down or recalling the earlier statement or rhetoric ?

            cheers,

            Super

            ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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            User 10979477
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            Risk for opportunity. Or just simply, "Risk"

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            • C Caslen

              I think you might be looking for native American speakers rather than native English speakers :) Here in the UK we 'double up' when it's a betting reference or simple 'double' our efforts when referring to persevering at a task. I've never heard the expression 'double down' over here.

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              User 10979477
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              You say double-up, I say double down, double-up, double-down, let's call the whole thing off. :-)

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              • S super

                Can anyone explain in layman terms what does "double down" means when news says " XYZ has doubled down from the last allegation he made"? I assume that it means backing down or recalling the earlier statement or rhetoric ?

                cheers,

                Super

                ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                AnotherKen
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                to me, "double down" means doubling a bet in a poker game. Or, it can be used as a slang term to mean that a person is talking about increasing their determination in regards to something they are doing, or intend to do. For instance, if a person knew they were getting close to drunk, but did not want to be, and they had friends offering to buy them drinks, then they would say no, and a supporting friend might say "He's doubling down guys, forget it."

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                • E englebart

                  Did XYZ reaffirm the original allegation, and then take it one step further by adding new allegations? "Double down" from the black jack card game is an opportunity to split a single hand (initial allegation) into 2 hands (more allegations).

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                  Charles Programmer
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                  BINGO! You're 100% correct (not the game.)

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                  • S super

                    Can anyone explain in layman terms what does "double down" means when news says " XYZ has doubled down from the last allegation he made"? I assume that it means backing down or recalling the earlier statement or rhetoric ?

                    cheers,

                    Super

                    ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                    Tiger12506
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                    When used in a non-gambling/card game context, when someone "doubles down" it means they are remaining firm in their position (such as in a debate or in an inquiry) *despite* there being evidence contrary to their position. i.e. "Instead of apologizing for his mistake, Bob decided to double-down on his previous statement."

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                    • S super

                      Can anyone explain in layman terms what does "double down" means when news says " XYZ has doubled down from the last allegation he made"? I assume that it means backing down or recalling the earlier statement or rhetoric ?

                      cheers,

                      Super

                      ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                      DavidRFigueroa
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                      I didn't see what you were looking for.. The technical definition does come from BlackJack. If you are comfortable that you can win on the next card draw, you can call for a double down. This means you are doubling your bet amount, and you draw *exactly* 1 more card. In slang terms, when you are doubling down, you are "gambling"/asserting that your position is correct, and that you are comfortable with any possible risk. David F.

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