Win10 - Ugh
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I had the displeasure of using a Win10 computer last night. I hated it. That is all.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013The SINGLE most important feature: You can RIGHT CLICK the windows icon in the lower left, and get something AKIN to a usable menu of options without beating someone to death out of sheer frustration. I am proud to say I love windows 7 still. and with that one technique, I can get things done in Windows 10 in MERE MINUTES where windows 7 takes seconds. LOL Cortana: Kirk, you seemed Pissed at Windows 10. Please try right clicking the windows icon... Cortana: Kirk, see, now you only seem irritated Kirk: Cortana, is there a mode where windows 10 works like windows 7? Cortana: baby steps dahling, baby steps
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I had the displeasure of using a Win10 computer last night. I hated it. That is all.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013I don't blame you. Windows 10 is the first one to make me seriously consider my other options.
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I had the displeasure of using a Win10 computer last night. I hated it. That is all.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Yeah, I've got the same feelings about Win 10 in its default setup. There's too many negatives in it for me to use it as my main OS. I do have it on my laptop (since it's a recent purchase) but I've set it up as a dual boot system. Mint Linux for all my general computing needs and Windows 10 for games that aren't available under Linux. You can get overall control of Windows 10 but it requires a fair amount of work and research (to find the registry tweaks). It requires much more tweaking than Mint Linux has for me.
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I was fighting the urge to comment, but I became overwhelmed with the gnawing feeling that my words just had to be heard (the inner narcissist was speaking to me). As a developer across multiple platforms (desktop, services for servers, web, etc, etc), I'd state that Windows 10 has been pretty darn good for me. It is faster than the previous iterations, it tends not to get bogged down as much (but Visual Studio 2017 can sometimes be a pig), and if you ignore all those tile things in the start menu (who looks at those?), it is a very productive machine. Now for something completely different... Then the gamer in me - my beast of a machine that powers my gaming (sad that this isn't my development PC) is also top notch running Windows 10. Best framerates, no slow downs once again, and of course, compatibility with the wide genre of games is important. I'm a steamhead that occasionally dabbles in the Microsoft Store (to grab GoW), but not really a fan. The addition of the Linux bash shell to Windows 10, the speed at which it operates, and the ability to "pretty much" have access to anything by just typing a few characters in the start menu is a dream come true. For the sad panda side: I upgraded to the Creator's Update. First issue was that on my gaming PC, my 4k monitor became washed out. Frustrating and angering at first, but I found that if you allow NVidia to control your HDR, and turn off the new Windows 10 setting for HDR, inner peace with your machine can be found. Next, I typed a simple multiplication problem into the search bar (I use Cortana a lot for my go-to calculator), and it asked me if I wanted to search the web... That appears to be fixed this morning, but wasn't yesterday for some reason. So is it perfect? Not really? Do the tiles do anything for me, other than serve as decorative nonsense on my start menu? Nope. But is it the best environment for my purposes so far? Yup...
Not saying 10 doesn't work or is wrong, [and mentioned elsewhere inevitably will have to go 10], but as you point out there's still some built-in niggles plus work stopping glitches with almost every upgrade. I prefer the system be more settled, so each day when I start I can go stright to what I want/need to do, not have a highish probability I to fix something first. It's typical early adopter woes, something I prefer to avoid. With windows, previous versions just as much, the 'early' phase is up to 2 years.
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I had the displeasure of using a Win10 computer last night. I hated it. That is all.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013What's up with all the stupid BOXES? Was this user interface designed by cats?
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I don't blame you. Windows 10 is the first one to make me seriously consider my other options.
The best thing about Win10 is that it finally pursuaded me to start using Linux. :cool:
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
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I had the displeasure of using a Win10 computer last night. I hated it. That is all.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Been using it close on 2.5 years and very few complaints.
Immanentize the Eschaton!
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I had the displeasure of using a Win10 computer last night. I hated it. That is all.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
I had the displeasure of using a Win10 computer last night. I hated it. That is all.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013I'm a bit agnostic when it comes to Windows X, granted it is a big leap forward from the version 8 flavor of Windows OS, but I loathe the update process and lack of simple straight forward control that was present in pre-8.x versions. There are advances to be sure, but I'm wondering at what cost. I'm waiting for the creators update to be pushed and will hold further judgment till that takes place. WHAT REALLY TROUBLES ME... is Apples iOS and how Microsoft like they have become with it. Seems like every time I use streaming media on my iPad Pro or iPhone 7 I have to reboot them to get them to function properly. This is most noted in email where you will not see the content of the message until you reboot. So I find that I'm doing that as many as 5 times a day. Getting old fast there Apple. MS-Windows only forces me to reboot when they slide in an update (but it sure would be nice to know in advance it was happening or prompting that I needed to reboot due to an update 'hint hint ms'!). Wish both companies would grow up their OS's a bit more and produce something other than an infinite beta product which is what is see on both their parts!
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I had the displeasure of using a Win10 computer last night. I hated it. That is all.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013lol ... given your "unProfessional Profile" is soaked in Windows only sauce this must be a sad day in your life? But guessing one of these (profile OR this post) is the joke, as how could it take a windows jockey this long to try Win10 for the first time?
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lol ... given your "unProfessional Profile" is soaked in Windows only sauce this must be a sad day in your life? But guessing one of these (profile OR this post) is the joke, as how could it take a windows jockey this long to try Win10 for the first time?
Member 8007155 wrote:
given your "unProfessional Profile" is soaked in Windows only sauce this must be a sad day in your life?
Who the f*ck are you again?
Member 8007155 wrote:
But guessing one of these (profile OR this post) is the joke, as how could it take a windows jockey this long to try Win10 for the first time?
I didn't "try" it. That implies a desire to use it. It was already on a machine (that belongs to someone else that I don't even know). Being the only computer person anybody seems to know within my sphere of influence, I was asked to resolve an issue on the box. And here's some info you might find useful for any future interaction you might direct my way - I don't give a flyin rat f*ck about how you view my "unprofessional profile".
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
I had the displeasure of using a Win10 computer last night. I hated it. That is all.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013I like it. It's a pleasure to use. That is all. ;P
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Member 8007155 wrote:
given your "unProfessional Profile" is soaked in Windows only sauce this must be a sad day in your life?
Who the f*ck are you again?
Member 8007155 wrote:
But guessing one of these (profile OR this post) is the joke, as how could it take a windows jockey this long to try Win10 for the first time?
I didn't "try" it. That implies a desire to use it. It was already on a machine (that belongs to someone else that I don't even know). Being the only computer person anybody seems to know within my sphere of influence, I was asked to resolve an issue on the box. And here's some info you might find useful for any future interaction you might direct my way - I don't give a flyin rat f*ck about how you view my "unprofessional profile".
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Member 8007155 wrote:
given your "unProfessional Profile" is soaked in Windows only sauce this must be a sad day in your life?
Who the f*ck are you again?
Why LINUX?[^] Slightly ironic dude we got there. Do not feed the troll. If you want to harm him in other ways, go ahead.
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Member 8007155 wrote:
given your "unProfessional Profile" is soaked in Windows only sauce this must be a sad day in your life?
Who the f*ck are you again?
Member 8007155 wrote:
But guessing one of these (profile OR this post) is the joke, as how could it take a windows jockey this long to try Win10 for the first time?
I didn't "try" it. That implies a desire to use it. It was already on a machine (that belongs to someone else that I don't even know). Being the only computer person anybody seems to know within my sphere of influence, I was asked to resolve an issue on the box. And here's some info you might find useful for any future interaction you might direct my way - I don't give a flyin rat f*ck about how you view my "unprofessional profile".
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote in crayon:
I don't give a flyin rat f*ck about how you view my "unprofessional profile".
And yet you replied, nothing more needs said :zzz:
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Member 8007155 wrote:
given your "unProfessional Profile" is soaked in Windows only sauce this must be a sad day in your life?
Who the f*ck are you again?
Member 8007155 wrote:
But guessing one of these (profile OR this post) is the joke, as how could it take a windows jockey this long to try Win10 for the first time?
I didn't "try" it. That implies a desire to use it. It was already on a machine (that belongs to someone else that I don't even know). Being the only computer person anybody seems to know within my sphere of influence, I was asked to resolve an issue on the box. And here's some info you might find useful for any future interaction you might direct my way - I don't give a flyin rat f*ck about how you view my "unprofessional profile".
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013LOL - Too funny
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
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lol ... given your "unProfessional Profile" is soaked in Windows only sauce this must be a sad day in your life? But guessing one of these (profile OR this post) is the joke, as how could it take a windows jockey this long to try Win10 for the first time?
PMSL! "Unprofessional profile" ... were you talking about your own? "How could it take a windows jockey this long to try Win10 for the first time?" - I'm a "windows jockey" ... I've "looked" at Win10, I've "tried" Win10 and I'm happy to stay well away from it until all of the issues are sorted. But on a more relevant topic ... why are you so negative? Been here 5 years and you only seem to come out of the cupboard to have a go at other members? To quote you.. lighten up
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TNCaver wrote:
and not having control over your own hardware as to when it updates and reboots, and what it updates. Otherwise
There is no OTHERWISE. In principal, what could be worse than that - i.e., buying a computer for MicroSloth?
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
I like windows 10 but people have to release some things about it: 1. You can get the enterprise version for free from college and block updates for up to a few months by default. Go to settings->update->advanced settings and check the defer feature updates which usually blocks most updates. I've tested it and it works. 2. I like to use the open in internet explorer option in Edge to have websites open in windows 10 fine that opened fine in windows 7 (I have experienced this problem too of edge not properly loading websites but it does not stop me from using windows 10). 3. Programming wise, I have started figuring out UWP which is a pain but workarounds do exist. File operations are close to what your used to with StreamReader and StreamWriter in dotnet with some changes (the async operations are a pain but quite pleasant once you figure them out). 4. Class shell is available but with some basic hacks or organization, I like the start menu. I really have to give them a star for the search bar because once Cortana is disabled your start menu looks faster for items. 5. Disable Cortana and diagnostic data if you prefer to stay silent in what you send Microsoft (i.e. I did disable Cortana at first because during certain actions she sends data to Microsoft such as news preferences then I realized I told her to retrieve that). Looks like windows 10 is great so far. I was skeptical after windows 8 and 8.1 and the crazy programming environment but its coming along great.
jeffery
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I like windows 10 but people have to release some things about it: 1. You can get the enterprise version for free from college and block updates for up to a few months by default. Go to settings->update->advanced settings and check the defer feature updates which usually blocks most updates. I've tested it and it works. 2. I like to use the open in internet explorer option in Edge to have websites open in windows 10 fine that opened fine in windows 7 (I have experienced this problem too of edge not properly loading websites but it does not stop me from using windows 10). 3. Programming wise, I have started figuring out UWP which is a pain but workarounds do exist. File operations are close to what your used to with StreamReader and StreamWriter in dotnet with some changes (the async operations are a pain but quite pleasant once you figure them out). 4. Class shell is available but with some basic hacks or organization, I like the start menu. I really have to give them a star for the search bar because once Cortana is disabled your start menu looks faster for items. 5. Disable Cortana and diagnostic data if you prefer to stay silent in what you send Microsoft (i.e. I did disable Cortana at first because during certain actions she sends data to Microsoft such as news preferences then I realized I told her to retrieve that). Looks like windows 10 is great so far. I was skeptical after windows 8 and 8.1 and the crazy programming environment but its coming along great.
jeffery
jeffery c wrote:
block updates for up to a few months by default.
Since you cannot refuse MS's updating of YOUR computer - it's now there computer. It doesn't matter to me what the hell else it can do. I will never let them own my PC. The rest of your arguments are irrelevant aside from showing how sleazy and untrustworthy they are.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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jeffery c wrote:
block updates for up to a few months by default.
Since you cannot refuse MS's updating of YOUR computer - it's now there computer. It doesn't matter to me what the hell else it can do. I will never let them own my PC. The rest of your arguments are irrelevant aside from showing how sleazy and untrustworthy they are.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Not meaning to be rude but unless they changed the options you can have it up to 6 months. However, a WSUS server could make it up to a year. I used the update block option myself but so far have had no real problems with visual studio ( I upgraded to 2015 a while back to see what the fuss was about but the only computer with problems was a old computer I had 5 years or more already). So, it seems like the privacy paranoia has you crazy. If you do not like updating go to linux. It's almost the same as saying Linux is a secure OS which is false. Linux does something similar with updates (I think Ubuntu has a similar option but you need to set it up). Apple even does automatic updates and their company is not Microsoft and they force their opinions into the OS despite backlash while Microsoft listens. If you hate updating ask Microsoft to bring back the block update until you are ready option like in XP. That's why they have the windows insider program. So, if you really are an avid windows user and not a crazy privacy troll put your big boy pants on and tell Microsoft that you want it like it was in windows XP.
jeffery
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Not meaning to be rude but unless they changed the options you can have it up to 6 months. However, a WSUS server could make it up to a year. I used the update block option myself but so far have had no real problems with visual studio ( I upgraded to 2015 a while back to see what the fuss was about but the only computer with problems was a old computer I had 5 years or more already). So, it seems like the privacy paranoia has you crazy. If you do not like updating go to linux. It's almost the same as saying Linux is a secure OS which is false. Linux does something similar with updates (I think Ubuntu has a similar option but you need to set it up). Apple even does automatic updates and their company is not Microsoft and they force their opinions into the OS despite backlash while Microsoft listens. If you hate updating ask Microsoft to bring back the block update until you are ready option like in XP. That's why they have the windows insider program. So, if you really are an avid windows user and not a crazy privacy troll put your big boy pants on and tell Microsoft that you want it like it was in windows XP.
jeffery
You ought to do a look-back into CP history - how many professionals are essentially locked out of their computer whilst it spends hours updating - and doing whatever the hell else MicroSlut wants to do.
jeffery c wrote:
privacy paranoia has you crazy
Ignoring it - deprecating the concept by calling it 'paranoia' - now that is crazy. Ubutu upgrades only with the user's permission. As do the applications. Also, installing Ubuntu for duel-boot doesn't trash Windows. Try it the other way around some time . . . Meanwhile - enjoy having your desktop turning into a bloated cell phone. Having your applications and setting manipulated for you and "for your own good". By the way: VS2015 had some interesting "telemetry" being installed for a while - in every application it created - the user of the application having their system and privacy essentially raided - without telling anyone what they were doing. Enough developer protest and they stopped doing it by default. At least so far as anyone's yet found. Meanwhile - since you're not paranoid - enjoy having doubleclick enhance your user experience.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010