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    Before Griff gets his bit about AOMEI in, I am going to shout: "I use Macrium's Reflect!" :laugh:

    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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    :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

    Sin tack the any key okay

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      My past laptop allowed me to quickly pop out the main drive and image it (I have a SATA to SATA disk duplicator). The new laptop is a little more difficult to get into - I actually have three SSDs in it: c: OS, application sw, etc d: main development SSD, project files e: virtual machines The C drive is one of the new pci m.2 form factor beasts, so it's not like I can pop it out like I used to do. Suggestions for backup software that will: (1) allow me to image an OS drive (2) background incremental backups - I'm thinking a 4 TB drive hung off my usb 3.0 hub. thanks

      Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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      DaveAuld
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      OneDrive autosync, 1TB storage with MS Office Sub. I also then have a second drive which I use as a target for Windows File History. Periodically, I used to do a backup image to my 10TB Raid 5 NAS, although this is rare (aka never), now that I have moved my PC more than 5000km from my NAS!

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      • C charlieg

        My past laptop allowed me to quickly pop out the main drive and image it (I have a SATA to SATA disk duplicator). The new laptop is a little more difficult to get into - I actually have three SSDs in it: c: OS, application sw, etc d: main development SSD, project files e: virtual machines The C drive is one of the new pci m.2 form factor beasts, so it's not like I can pop it out like I used to do. Suggestions for backup software that will: (1) allow me to image an OS drive (2) background incremental backups - I'm thinking a 4 TB drive hung off my usb 3.0 hub. thanks

        Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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        OriginalGriff
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        You already know I use AOMEI Backupper, and love it! :laugh:

        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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        • C charlieg

          I'm going to ignore the others. It's Friday, and they are clearly drinking. Somehow I have to image my OS drive. The other stuff I can handle, but I shudder at the agony of rebuilding the OS drive....

          Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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          theoldfool
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          clonezilla. Ugly interface, but it works.

          "Abstract art? A product of the untalented, sold by the unprincipled to the utterly bewildered." Al Capp

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          • C charlieg

            My past laptop allowed me to quickly pop out the main drive and image it (I have a SATA to SATA disk duplicator). The new laptop is a little more difficult to get into - I actually have three SSDs in it: c: OS, application sw, etc d: main development SSD, project files e: virtual machines The C drive is one of the new pci m.2 form factor beasts, so it's not like I can pop it out like I used to do. Suggestions for backup software that will: (1) allow me to image an OS drive (2) background incremental backups - I'm thinking a 4 TB drive hung off my usb 3.0 hub. thanks

            Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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            Peter T Ringering
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            I have all my data and code backed up in the cloud using Carbonite. What's neat is it works in the background and automatically backs up every time a data/code file is changed. It only costs $60/year. A few years ago, my computer suddenly died while I was working on a project. No problem. Bought a new computer, logged onto Carbonite, restored my data, and in less than a day, I was back where I left off. Carbonite is worth its bits in gold. :-D Peter Ringering

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              clonezilla. Ugly interface, but it works.

              "Abstract art? A product of the untalented, sold by the unprincipled to the utterly bewildered." Al Capp

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              Southmountain
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              this is very attractive to me. I will try it.

              diligent hands rule....

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              • C charlieg

                My past laptop allowed me to quickly pop out the main drive and image it (I have a SATA to SATA disk duplicator). The new laptop is a little more difficult to get into - I actually have three SSDs in it: c: OS, application sw, etc d: main development SSD, project files e: virtual machines The C drive is one of the new pci m.2 form factor beasts, so it's not like I can pop it out like I used to do. Suggestions for backup software that will: (1) allow me to image an OS drive (2) background incremental backups - I'm thinking a 4 TB drive hung off my usb 3.0 hub. thanks

                Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                Mark_Wallace
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                I use the R, because the D makes it go forward, and the P doesn't work on my machine.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                • P Peter T Ringering

                  I have all my data and code backed up in the cloud using Carbonite. What's neat is it works in the background and automatically backs up every time a data/code file is changed. It only costs $60/year. A few years ago, my computer suddenly died while I was working on a project. No problem. Bought a new computer, logged onto Carbonite, restored my data, and in less than a day, I was back where I left off. Carbonite is worth its bits in gold. :-D Peter Ringering

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                  charlieg
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                  I don't see how Carbonite can handle (a) system images and (b) massive amounts of data for $60/year? (b) oh wait - *unlimited* storage for a system, okay, that changed the last time I looked at them. That would only be 18 hours for the initial capture, much less for incremental backups. I'll have to look into that. One issue I have is making sure I am disaster proof - fire, theft, tornado. (a) how did it handle the system disk restore? A major pain point for me is restoring all of the installed software. cg

                  Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                    I use the R, because the D makes it go forward, and the P doesn't work on my machine.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    charlieg
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                    too early in the morning for this. btw, "R" is for rocket mode.

                    Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                    • C charlieg

                      I don't see how Carbonite can handle (a) system images and (b) massive amounts of data for $60/year? (b) oh wait - *unlimited* storage for a system, okay, that changed the last time I looked at them. That would only be 18 hours for the initial capture, much less for incremental backups. I'll have to look into that. One issue I have is making sure I am disaster proof - fire, theft, tornado. (a) how did it handle the system disk restore? A major pain point for me is restoring all of the installed software. cg

                      Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                      Peter T Ringering
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                      I'm an individual developer with just 1 PC. All my data is in MS Access and SQL Server CE databases. I don't have massive amounts of data but what I do have I couldn't live without. What I like about Carbonite is that it automatically backs up my data when my computer is idle. It doesn't hog system resources. It also only backs up data--not videos and program files unless I specifically ask it to. Since my Visual Studio code files are small in comparison, Carbonite backs them up automatically too. Carbonite has saved me many times in the past several years. Peter Ringering

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                      • C charlieg

                        My past laptop allowed me to quickly pop out the main drive and image it (I have a SATA to SATA disk duplicator). The new laptop is a little more difficult to get into - I actually have three SSDs in it: c: OS, application sw, etc d: main development SSD, project files e: virtual machines The C drive is one of the new pci m.2 form factor beasts, so it's not like I can pop it out like I used to do. Suggestions for backup software that will: (1) allow me to image an OS drive (2) background incremental backups - I'm thinking a 4 TB drive hung off my usb 3.0 hub. thanks

                        Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                        irneb
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                        I'm assuming you want to make 1:1 image of at least your C drive - i.e. if anything goes wrong you just want to either have it already on a drive or be able to restore an older image. For this I've used CloneZilla several years now. Many a time I screwed up an installation by fiddling with drivers and settings, and many times screwed up partitioning and/or dual-booting. If it wasn't for CloneZilla I'd have had to euthanize myself long ago. I've seen others mention stuff like Arconis. AFAIK they all do pretty much the same job as CZ. Either make a raw copy of one drive to another, or to an image file for later restore (either entire drive or per partition). For your other drives I'd just go with a normal copying backup. Yes (as many other answers state) online stuff (like OneDrive / Dropbox / GDrive / etc.) can help, but depending on size you may not be able to use these. Probably OK for the development project files - they tend to be smallish and don't often change all at once. Although for coding I've found these auto-online-sync stuff tends to screw with the editor / IDE as the timing of the sync gets "out-of-sync" making the editor / IDE think the file's changed from outside. It would be very cumbersome for your VMs though - since all the VM virtual drives would change nearly every time you run them, meaning a near 100% upload on a daily basis (hope your bandwidth is large and fast enough). I would likely rather just go with a local copy (at least for your E drive). To be absolutely sure, a rotating copy on 3 drives - overwriting the older backup. There are many programs which can do this on a scheduled basis, some even on an event basis as a file changes (i.e. the way OneDrive / DropBox works, only instead of to an online server, to a local path you specify). You could even setup a task schedule in Windows to perform the copy, though I'd likely go with RoboCopy instead of copy/xcopy. Personally I use rclone on my NAS box, using DeltaCopy in Windows to backup onto the NAS. Then I've got a script on there firing when I plug in a USB drive - which simply copies the backup from the NAS's internals to the external (overwriting only newer files). But that's me - on my home LAN, and since nearly all my project files (3d models) tend to be huge (even in relation to video files) - nothing strange to see several GB per file (i.e. similar in size to your VM files). For your D drive I might be tempted to use a versioning system. Even a local background service running something like SVN should be awesome in rel

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                          My past laptop allowed me to quickly pop out the main drive and image it (I have a SATA to SATA disk duplicator). The new laptop is a little more difficult to get into - I actually have three SSDs in it: c: OS, application sw, etc d: main development SSD, project files e: virtual machines The C drive is one of the new pci m.2 form factor beasts, so it's not like I can pop it out like I used to do. Suggestions for backup software that will: (1) allow me to image an OS drive (2) background incremental backups - I'm thinking a 4 TB drive hung off my usb 3.0 hub. thanks

                          Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                          Gary Wheeler
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                          Very old school here: Robocopy: incremental copies of working files Macrium Reflect: occasional system images

                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                            My past laptop allowed me to quickly pop out the main drive and image it (I have a SATA to SATA disk duplicator). The new laptop is a little more difficult to get into - I actually have three SSDs in it: c: OS, application sw, etc d: main development SSD, project files e: virtual machines The C drive is one of the new pci m.2 form factor beasts, so it's not like I can pop it out like I used to do. Suggestions for backup software that will: (1) allow me to image an OS drive (2) background incremental backups - I'm thinking a 4 TB drive hung off my usb 3.0 hub. thanks

                            Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                            18.4.2017 I have used Acronis's True Image for regular weekly backup of my HDD's, and use xcopy/robocopy for backups of fast changing data to an USB Drive. Since I also use Thunderbird and Firefox I use Mozbackup (Well, I wrote a bash that does it all automatically) to backup emails etc twice a day....that was a real saver when I deleted a large chunk of my current emails. Hope this helps.

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                              My past laptop allowed me to quickly pop out the main drive and image it (I have a SATA to SATA disk duplicator). The new laptop is a little more difficult to get into - I actually have three SSDs in it: c: OS, application sw, etc d: main development SSD, project files e: virtual machines The C drive is one of the new pci m.2 form factor beasts, so it's not like I can pop it out like I used to do. Suggestions for backup software that will: (1) allow me to image an OS drive (2) background incremental backups - I'm thinking a 4 TB drive hung off my usb 3.0 hub. thanks

                              Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                              Josh Bula
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                              Veeam Endpoint Backup Free, Image-based bare metal restore, and incremental.

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                                My past laptop allowed me to quickly pop out the main drive and image it (I have a SATA to SATA disk duplicator). The new laptop is a little more difficult to get into - I actually have three SSDs in it: c: OS, application sw, etc d: main development SSD, project files e: virtual machines The C drive is one of the new pci m.2 form factor beasts, so it's not like I can pop it out like I used to do. Suggestions for backup software that will: (1) allow me to image an OS drive (2) background incremental backups - I'm thinking a 4 TB drive hung off my usb 3.0 hub. thanks

                                Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                                I have used SyncBackFree for years for file backup and never had a problem with back or recovery. The paid version can do versioning of backups. I use EaseUS TodoBackup Free for disk imaging--it's remarkably quick (but I have not tested recovery, probably like most folks). NTI BackupEZ came with a soap-on-a-rope Toshiba USB drive and I used that for almost a year. It was slow-w-w-w and never ran without errors when doing file/directory backup. It was horrible to uninstall. CCleaner, IObit Uninstaller & Control Panel could not uninstall it. I was able to download a MS tool to expunge it. You have been warned.

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                                  My past laptop allowed me to quickly pop out the main drive and image it (I have a SATA to SATA disk duplicator). The new laptop is a little more difficult to get into - I actually have three SSDs in it: c: OS, application sw, etc d: main development SSD, project files e: virtual machines The C drive is one of the new pci m.2 form factor beasts, so it's not like I can pop it out like I used to do. Suggestions for backup software that will: (1) allow me to image an OS drive (2) background incremental backups - I'm thinking a 4 TB drive hung off my usb 3.0 hub. thanks

                                  Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                                  Imaging: Macrium Reflect is my preference for Imaging. Also allows for incremental and other options. VMWare: Robocopy only to an 8TB external drive. Code: Network storage, and above drive. Far quicker. I used to use Cobian Backup for a lot of stuff. It allows for zip or direct copies. Looks like the author has sold it however.

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                                    I don't see how Carbonite can handle (a) system images and (b) massive amounts of data for $60/year? (b) oh wait - *unlimited* storage for a system, okay, that changed the last time I looked at them. That would only be 18 hours for the initial capture, much less for incremental backups. I'll have to look into that. One issue I have is making sure I am disaster proof - fire, theft, tornado. (a) how did it handle the system disk restore? A major pain point for me is restoring all of the installed software. cg

                                    Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                                    I used Carbonite for a couple of years, but on two occasions when I needed to restore relatively small amounts of data, the restore went unbelievably slowly - to the extent that I could not imagine trying to recover from a real disaster that way. I now use Acronis (which seems to be much more reliable and stable than it was up to a couple of years ago) for local backup, mainly of system files, to a NAS device, and CrashPlan Pro for continuous backup of documents and data. I have been very impressed with the latter program - occasional problems have been dealt with promptly by support people who know their product and care about their users.

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                                      My past laptop allowed me to quickly pop out the main drive and image it (I have a SATA to SATA disk duplicator). The new laptop is a little more difficult to get into - I actually have three SSDs in it: c: OS, application sw, etc d: main development SSD, project files e: virtual machines The C drive is one of the new pci m.2 form factor beasts, so it's not like I can pop it out like I used to do. Suggestions for backup software that will: (1) allow me to image an OS drive (2) background incremental backups - I'm thinking a 4 TB drive hung off my usb 3.0 hub. thanks

                                      Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                                      Mark Mondor
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                                      Veeam endpoint backup is free and creates image and bootable CD to make full recovery easier including drivers. It does incremental on schedule keeping configurable number of daily versions available. Individual file restore easily accomplished.

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                                        OneDrive seems pretty good.

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                                        Monte Christo
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                                        OneDrive chokes when used for code backup. It cannot handle all the intermediate and output files created by build processes. It just stops syncing, never completing its "scanning for changes... " routine. This is with the pro plan (1 TB). Happened to me twice. Took an act of congress to get sync working again. Now I use git repos outside OneDrive for all my code storage and all is well. For OS and app backup I use Acronis True Image. Fast, flexible, reliable, but not cheap. Then again, what would you give in an emergency to get your data back?

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                                          OneDrive chokes when used for code backup. It cannot handle all the intermediate and output files created by build processes. It just stops syncing, never completing its "scanning for changes... " routine. This is with the pro plan (1 TB). Happened to me twice. Took an act of congress to get sync working again. Now I use git repos outside OneDrive for all my code storage and all is well. For OS and app backup I use Acronis True Image. Fast, flexible, reliable, but not cheap. Then again, what would you give in an emergency to get your data back?

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                                          R Giskard Reventlov
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                                          I back up code as files only. I use TFS[^] online for real code backup. Has not caused a problem and means I have the code in a number of places.

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