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Android Dev: SSD Solves A Lot

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  • R raddevus

    I recently converted my laptop to an SSD (from HDD) and I'm realizing the benefits every day. Android Emulator I hadn't given it extra thought but I started a new Android project and started the emulator the other day and it started so fast I wondered how it was possible. Then I remembered, the entire Emulator OS is really virtual memory (run from disk for the most part). I just started my emulator running Android Lollipop and the Google API and it goes from zero to fully started in about 5 seconds. :cool: It was probably somewhere around 1-2 minutes with the HDD. If you're an Android dev and running emulators like this (and you have an HDD), you really need to consider converting to an SSD.

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    Southmountain
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    I have a spare machine with 80G hard drive and loads with Visual Studio 2017. I want to use SSD to improve the performance as you did.

    diligent hands rule....

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    • R raddevus

      I recently converted my laptop to an SSD (from HDD) and I'm realizing the benefits every day. Android Emulator I hadn't given it extra thought but I started a new Android project and started the emulator the other day and it started so fast I wondered how it was possible. Then I remembered, the entire Emulator OS is really virtual memory (run from disk for the most part). I just started my emulator running Android Lollipop and the Google API and it goes from zero to fully started in about 5 seconds. :cool: It was probably somewhere around 1-2 minutes with the HDD. If you're an Android dev and running emulators like this (and you have an HDD), you really need to consider converting to an SSD.

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      David ONeil
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      I doubt you'll find a single member of this site who will argue against adding an SSD to their system! Having said that, one or two will turn up...

      Sudden Sun Death Syndrome (SSDS) is a very real concern which we should be raising awareness of. 156 billion suns die every year before they're just 1 billion years old. While the military are doing their part, it simply isn't enough to make the amount of nukes needed to save those poor stars. - TWI2T3D (Reddit)

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        I doubt you'll find a single member of this site who will argue against adding an SSD to their system! Having said that, one or two will turn up...

        Sudden Sun Death Syndrome (SSDS) is a very real concern which we should be raising awareness of. 156 billion suns die every year before they're just 1 billion years old. While the military are doing their part, it simply isn't enough to make the amount of nukes needed to save those poor stars. - TWI2T3D (Reddit)

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        Peter_in_2780
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        David O'Neil wrote:

        Sudden Sun Death (SSD)

        Is that really what I want to add to my system?

        Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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          David O'Neil wrote:

          Sudden Sun Death (SSD)

          Is that really what I want to add to my system?

          Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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          David ONeil
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          Quote:

          Having said that, one or two will turn up...

          See! I jinxed myself! :rolleyes:

          Sudden Sun Death Syndrome (SSDS) is a very real concern which we should be raising awareness of. 156 billion suns die every year before they're just 1 billion years old. While the military are doing their part, it simply isn't enough to make the amount of nukes needed to save those poor stars. - TWI2T3D (Reddit)

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            I doubt you'll find a single member of this site who will argue against adding an SSD to their system! Having said that, one or two will turn up...

            Sudden Sun Death Syndrome (SSDS) is a very real concern which we should be raising awareness of. 156 billion suns die every year before they're just 1 billion years old. While the military are doing their part, it simply isn't enough to make the amount of nukes needed to save those poor stars. - TWI2T3D (Reddit)

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            Daniel Pfeffer
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            It all depends on cost vs capacity vs speed of access. For portables and desktops, I agree that an SSD is the way to go. This is not necessarily the case for a home/office NAS, and is far from being trivially true for a datacentre. There's still plenty of life in them old horse buggies. :) [Full disclosure: my employer, Western Digital, makes both HDDs and SSDs]

            If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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              I doubt you'll find a single member of this site who will argue against adding an SSD to their system! Having said that, one or two will turn up...

              Sudden Sun Death Syndrome (SSDS) is a very real concern which we should be raising awareness of. 156 billion suns die every year before they're just 1 billion years old. While the military are doing their part, it simply isn't enough to make the amount of nukes needed to save those poor stars. - TWI2T3D (Reddit)

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              Lost User
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              ssd. Bah Humbug! Bring back core memory.

              Sin tack the any key okay

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                ssd. Bah Humbug! Bring back core memory.

                Sin tack the any key okay

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                Daniel Pfeffer
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                Modernist! Bring back the [Jacquard Loom](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquard\_loom)!

                If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                • R raddevus

                  I recently converted my laptop to an SSD (from HDD) and I'm realizing the benefits every day. Android Emulator I hadn't given it extra thought but I started a new Android project and started the emulator the other day and it started so fast I wondered how it was possible. Then I remembered, the entire Emulator OS is really virtual memory (run from disk for the most part). I just started my emulator running Android Lollipop and the Google API and it goes from zero to fully started in about 5 seconds. :cool: It was probably somewhere around 1-2 minutes with the HDD. If you're an Android dev and running emulators like this (and you have an HDD), you really need to consider converting to an SSD.

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                  dandy72
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                  raddevus wrote:

                  goes from zero to fully started in about 5 seconds

                  I'm glad I don't do any Android development then. My initial thought when reading that particular bit was that anything that requires a whole 5 seconds to load from an SSD is a massive pig.

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                    raddevus wrote:

                    goes from zero to fully started in about 5 seconds

                    I'm glad I don't do any Android development then. My initial thought when reading that particular bit was that anything that requires a whole 5 seconds to load from an SSD is a massive pig.

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                    raddevus
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                    That's funny. It is an entire OS starting up though, so... How fast does your phone actually start? At least 5 seconds, I'm guessing. If your using an iPhone -- a lot, lot, lot longer time.

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                      I doubt you'll find a single member of this site who will argue against adding an SSD to their system! Having said that, one or two will turn up...

                      Sudden Sun Death Syndrome (SSDS) is a very real concern which we should be raising awareness of. 156 billion suns die every year before they're just 1 billion years old. While the military are doing their part, it simply isn't enough to make the amount of nukes needed to save those poor stars. - TWI2T3D (Reddit)

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                      raddevus
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                      David O'Neil wrote:

                      doubt you'll find a single member of this site who will argue against adding an SSD

                      I agree.

                      David O'Neil wrote:

                      Having said that, one or two will turn up...

                      You definitely know this site. Or people. Or People of The Internet (PITs) :laugh: :laugh: Here they come. :)

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                      • R raddevus

                        That's funny. It is an entire OS starting up though, so... How fast does your phone actually start? At least 5 seconds, I'm guessing. If your using an iPhone -- a lot, lot, lot longer time.

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                        dandy72
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                        So does the whole emulated OS have to start from scratch every single time you want to start your app?

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                        • D David ONeil

                          I doubt you'll find a single member of this site who will argue against adding an SSD to their system! Having said that, one or two will turn up...

                          Sudden Sun Death Syndrome (SSDS) is a very real concern which we should be raising awareness of. 156 billion suns die every year before they're just 1 billion years old. While the military are doing their part, it simply isn't enough to make the amount of nukes needed to save those poor stars. - TWI2T3D (Reddit)

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                          ledtech3
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                          I still don't trust them ;)

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                          • D dandy72

                            So does the whole emulated OS have to start from scratch every single time you want to start your app?

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                            raddevus
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                            dandy72 wrote:

                            So does the whole emulated OS have to start from scratch every single time you want to start your app?

                            Great question. No, it doesn't actually. But the initial time to start was painful in the past (without SSD). Once you have the OS running on the emulator you can just deploy you app over and over without having to restart the OS. The newer versions of Android Studio even has a cool feature that does a hot update so that your app recompiles and does an instant update to the emulator without the long wait of copying and installing the .APK (android installation package for the app).

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                              It all depends on cost vs capacity vs speed of access. For portables and desktops, I agree that an SSD is the way to go. This is not necessarily the case for a home/office NAS, and is far from being trivially true for a datacentre. There's still plenty of life in them old horse buggies. :) [Full disclosure: my employer, Western Digital, makes both HDDs and SSDs]

                              If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                              Daniel Pfeffer wrote: If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill Does this mean that you are able to get "all of us" a huge discount on HDD's and SSD's? Maybe even FREE SSD's for everyone that is a member of CODE PROJECT!!!!?? :laugh: -Randy

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                                Daniel Pfeffer wrote: If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill Does this mean that you are able to get "all of us" a huge discount on HDD's and SSD's? Maybe even FREE SSD's for everyone that is a member of CODE PROJECT!!!!?? :laugh: -Randy

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                                Daniel Pfeffer
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                                Sorry; it doesn't work that way. I can only purchase a limited number of devices every month, and they may only be used for non-commercial activities. Selling them on is a definite no-no! :sigh:

                                If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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