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  • M Mark_Wallace

    Just idle curiosity, but what kinds of program do you use full-screen? Me, I only ever use full screen for graphics apps, database editors, and video -- where the extra space is needed, IMO. I prefer to be able to click between windows without moving anything or un-hiding the taskbar (which ms has made a lot more difficult, by doing away with window borders and title-bars), and my most-used desktop shortcuts are arranged so that they're usually accessible, even if I have a dozen windows open. I certainly wouldn't go to full screen if it meant creating a lot of blank space.

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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    Lost User
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    On Windows, Visual Studio, Photoshop, Illustrator, SQL Management.. On MacBook, almost everything - it's really fluid to switch apps with a simple [three-fingered flick](http://www.laptopmag.com/images/wp/purch-api/incontent/2016/03/full-screen-03-529x400.png) left or right.

    Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.

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    • M Mark_Wallace

      Just idle curiosity, but what kinds of program do you use full-screen? Me, I only ever use full screen for graphics apps, database editors, and video -- where the extra space is needed, IMO. I prefer to be able to click between windows without moving anything or un-hiding the taskbar (which ms has made a lot more difficult, by doing away with window borders and title-bars), and my most-used desktop shortcuts are arranged so that they're usually accessible, even if I have a dozen windows open. I certainly wouldn't go to full screen if it meant creating a lot of blank space.

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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      All of them. I use alt-tab to switch windows.

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      • M Mark_Wallace

        Just idle curiosity, but what kinds of program do you use full-screen? Me, I only ever use full screen for graphics apps, database editors, and video -- where the extra space is needed, IMO. I prefer to be able to click between windows without moving anything or un-hiding the taskbar (which ms has made a lot more difficult, by doing away with window borders and title-bars), and my most-used desktop shortcuts are arranged so that they're usually accessible, even if I have a dozen windows open. I certainly wouldn't go to full screen if it meant creating a lot of blank space.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        MarkTJohnson
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        IDE is definitely maximized and I try to get rid of as many of the little windows inside it as possible, but then I'm old I started with BRIEF and had it set to 50 line mode. When I'm looking at code I don't need all that extra noise. I've also in the past month moved from a Windows machine to a Mac. The development I'm currently working on is not Windows centric and the group of developers I'm now working with were mostly Silver Box people so I decided one more thing on my learning curve wouldn't be too much and I don't have to worry about the translation of how stuff gets done on Windows verses Mac. That said, I hate the Mac version of alt-tab. If your current application is maximized and you Command-Tab to a different application the new application does not appear. Maybe this is a "I don't understand the Mac well enough yet" thing but it is a pain in the lower extremities. And using a Windows VM inside a Mac will drive you nuts between all the different alt, control, command key combinations.:confused:

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        • M Mark_Wallace

          Just idle curiosity, but what kinds of program do you use full-screen? Me, I only ever use full screen for graphics apps, database editors, and video -- where the extra space is needed, IMO. I prefer to be able to click between windows without moving anything or un-hiding the taskbar (which ms has made a lot more difficult, by doing away with window borders and title-bars), and my most-used desktop shortcuts are arranged so that they're usually accessible, even if I have a dozen windows open. I certainly wouldn't go to full screen if it meant creating a lot of blank space.

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          TNCaver
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          Videos (sometimes), Cubase. I too prefer to click between windows rather than their taskbar icons, or hitting Alt-Tab or whatever. I also hate having to minimize all the open windows just to find and click on a desktop shortcut icon to start a program, so I hide desktop icons and either start programs from the taskbar or its pop-up list of desktop items, or the Start menu.

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          • M MarkTJohnson

            IDE is definitely maximized and I try to get rid of as many of the little windows inside it as possible, but then I'm old I started with BRIEF and had it set to 50 line mode. When I'm looking at code I don't need all that extra noise. I've also in the past month moved from a Windows machine to a Mac. The development I'm currently working on is not Windows centric and the group of developers I'm now working with were mostly Silver Box people so I decided one more thing on my learning curve wouldn't be too much and I don't have to worry about the translation of how stuff gets done on Windows verses Mac. That said, I hate the Mac version of alt-tab. If your current application is maximized and you Command-Tab to a different application the new application does not appear. Maybe this is a "I don't understand the Mac well enough yet" thing but it is a pain in the lower extremities. And using a Windows VM inside a Mac will drive you nuts between all the different alt, control, command key combinations.:confused:

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            Mark_Wallace
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            MarkTJohnson wrote:

            sing a Windows VM inside a Mac will drive you nuts between all the different alt, control, command key combinations

            True. It's one of the reasons I prefer to see the background windows and click on them.

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            • M MarkTJohnson

              IDE is definitely maximized and I try to get rid of as many of the little windows inside it as possible, but then I'm old I started with BRIEF and had it set to 50 line mode. When I'm looking at code I don't need all that extra noise. I've also in the past month moved from a Windows machine to a Mac. The development I'm currently working on is not Windows centric and the group of developers I'm now working with were mostly Silver Box people so I decided one more thing on my learning curve wouldn't be too much and I don't have to worry about the translation of how stuff gets done on Windows verses Mac. That said, I hate the Mac version of alt-tab. If your current application is maximized and you Command-Tab to a different application the new application does not appear. Maybe this is a "I don't understand the Mac well enough yet" thing but it is a pain in the lower extremities. And using a Windows VM inside a Mac will drive you nuts between all the different alt, control, command key combinations.:confused:

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              MarkTJohnson wrote:

              And using a Windows VM inside a Mac will drive you nuts between all the different alt, control, command key combinations.:confused:

              Had the same sort of problems with my recent adventure with an Ubuntu VM under a Mac because the former mostly used the same shortcuts as my PC. Mostly I suffered the same reasons you did, lost time due to the Mac being a Mac was as least a learning experience. Setting up the dev environment again after the IT guy finally got me a loaner PC would've been pure waste.

              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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              • M Mark_Wallace

                Just idle curiosity, but what kinds of program do you use full-screen? Me, I only ever use full screen for graphics apps, database editors, and video -- where the extra space is needed, IMO. I prefer to be able to click between windows without moving anything or un-hiding the taskbar (which ms has made a lot more difficult, by doing away with window borders and title-bars), and my most-used desktop shortcuts are arranged so that they're usually accessible, even if I have a dozen windows open. I certainly wouldn't go to full screen if it meant creating a lot of blank space.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                Caslen
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                For LABView - and even then it's not enough!

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                • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                  Mark_Wallace wrote:

                  what kinds of program do you use full-screen

                  Almost everything... But I have 3 screens to spread application on... [EDIT] Reading Marco's replace: I mixed full-screen with maximized... Se answer as corrected...

                  Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                  I concur with this... I tend to maximize on side monitors in full screen mode and have tiled apps in the center monitor when I'm not in full bore developer mode. At the point that I do flip that switch all three become full screen and I strategically place windows in various monitors so as I need to switch beyond the three up on the screens that they are convenient to cross reference or copy from one to the next.

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                  • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                    Mark_Wallace wrote:

                    what kinds of program do you use full-screen

                    Almost everything... But I have 3 screens to spread application on... [EDIT] Reading Marco's replace: I mixed full-screen with maximized... Se answer as corrected...

                    Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                    Greg Lovekamp
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                    I also have three monitors, and do most things maximized to full screen. On the left, portrait-oriented monitor is web browser, Adobe reader, or Word, whichever I am using at that time. On the right, landscape-orientated monitor is email, calendar, or Excel, again whichever I am using. In the middle, landscape-oriented widescreen is SQL Server Management Studio, Visual Studio, or Remote Desktop. Other stuff I may need, such as File Explorer or a mainframe screen, I just pop up windows overlaying one of the other screens which is least important at that moment.

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                    • M Mark_Wallace

                      Just idle curiosity, but what kinds of program do you use full-screen? Me, I only ever use full screen for graphics apps, database editors, and video -- where the extra space is needed, IMO. I prefer to be able to click between windows without moving anything or un-hiding the taskbar (which ms has made a lot more difficult, by doing away with window borders and title-bars), and my most-used desktop shortcuts are arranged so that they're usually accessible, even if I have a dozen windows open. I certainly wouldn't go to full screen if it meant creating a lot of blank space.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      Yortw
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                      I *tend* to use everything exception Windows Explorer full screen, often because I have multiple copies of that open to different folders and drag files between. I also don't use console/powershell windows full screen. Oh, and calculator, because why would you. Everything else, VS, Outlook, browsers, games, office apps etc. I use full screen with one on each of 2 or 3 monitors, and task switch between instances/apps via the keyboard. That's probably just me though. I'm usually in the minority.

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