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  • M Marco Bertschi

    I just did it myself

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    Nelek
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    Sorry... I was already editing it when you wrote, my version is public. I have answered below with the link of the Author.

    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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    • N Nelek

      The plagiarist is: syed shanu - Professional Profile[^] and he is here long enough to perfectly know that this is not tolerated. @Sean-Ewington I think you should have a look over here, he might have forgotten the link or might not. At least I think a closer look is needed (eventually a wipe if your scrutiny is positive for him / a closer look to other articles).

      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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      Marco Bertschi
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      Nelek wrote:

      link

      If the article has such large chucks of foreign code in it (in relation to the code in total) a link won't help much, I'm afraid.

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      • M Marco Bertschi

        Nelek wrote:

        link

        If the article has such large chucks of foreign code in it (in relation to the code in total) a link won't help much, I'm afraid.

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        Nelek
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        With link I mean the reference to the original source / recognition to the other author.

        Marco Bertschi (SFC) wrote:

        a link won't help much, I'm afraid.

        I already said it: He is here long enough to know better. But still have "summoned" Sean, so a closer look can be done. It will be anyways needed, he is going to fight / ask for his account back.

        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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        • M Marco Bertschi

          Nelek wrote:

          With link I mean the reference to the original source / recognition to the other author.

          Yes, but if (as it is in this case) the article mainly consists of things taken from someone else's site it's still plagiarism.

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          Nelek
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          I know, that's why I already reported both

          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          • N Nelek

            With link I mean the reference to the original source / recognition to the other author.

            Marco Bertschi (SFC) wrote:

            a link won't help much, I'm afraid.

            I already said it: He is here long enough to know better. But still have "summoned" Sean, so a closer look can be done. It will be anyways needed, he is going to fight / ask for his account back.

            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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            Marco Bertschi
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            Nelek wrote:

            With link I mean the reference to the original source / recognition to the other author.

            Yes, but if (as it is in this case) the article mainly consists of things taken from someone else's site it's still plagiarism.

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            • N Nelek

              I know, that's why I already reported both

              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              Marco Bertschi
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              :thumbsup:

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              • N Nelek

                The plagiarist is: syed shanu - Professional Profile[^] and he is here long enough to perfectly know that this is not tolerated. @Sean-Ewington I think you should have a look over here, he might have forgotten the link or might not. At least I think a closer look is needed (eventually a wipe if your scrutiny is positive for him / a closer look to other articles).

                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                Sean Ewington
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                There's a lot of articles there. I'll dig in. Will take a little time, though

                Thanks, Sean Ewington CodeProject

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                • M Marco Bertschi

                  Found, yet not reported by Tino Fourie: External Program Text Read using VB.NET[^] Article in question[^]

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                  Pete OHanlon
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                  Why do you think this is plagiarized? The only versions of this I see are both by the same user (he posted on C-Sharp Corner and in Technet). He regularly posts versions of the same article in multiple locations.

                  This space for rent

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                  • S Sean Ewington

                    There's a lot of articles there. I'll dig in. Will take a little time, though

                    Thanks, Sean Ewington CodeProject

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                    Pete OHanlon
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                    I would hold on a mo Sean. Let's get it clarified that this article is plagiarized first - I'm not so sure it is.

                    This space for rent

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                    • P Pete OHanlon

                      Why do you think this is plagiarized? The only versions of this I see are both by the same user (he posted on C-Sharp Corner and in Technet). He regularly posts versions of the same article in multiple locations.

                      This space for rent

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                      Marco Bertschi
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                      The message where Tim explained his concerns in detail is gone with the article.. Anyways, the biggest discussion point was the rather large chunk of code he grabbed from here[^] He seemingly has grabbed a lot of the code to download from there, and that's just rewrapping an old gift.

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                      • M Marco Bertschi

                        The message where Tim explained his concerns in detail is gone with the article.. Anyways, the biggest discussion point was the rather large chunk of code he grabbed from here[^] He seemingly has grabbed a lot of the code to download from there, and that's just rewrapping an old gift.

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                        Pete OHanlon
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                        I see that Syed linked out to that page in his list of references.

                        This space for rent

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                        • M Marco Bertschi

                          The message where Tim explained his concerns in detail is gone with the article.. Anyways, the biggest discussion point was the rather large chunk of code he grabbed from here[^] He seemingly has grabbed a lot of the code to download from there, and that's just rewrapping an old gift.

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                          Pete OHanlon
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                          Nevermind - I managed to see where he's doing the repackaging. Very naughty.

                          This space for rent

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                          • P Pete OHanlon

                            I see that Syed linked out to that page in his list of references.

                            This space for rent

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                            Jochen Arndt
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                            He added the link after Tino's message. But it still does not match the requirements:

                            • Even with the link there is no indication what has been copied.
                            • There may be a license discrepance (article is CPOL but the used source may have a different license). He should have asked the author.
                            • The source code (downloads and browse) does not contain a reference.
                            • Most of the article code is located in one file which is completely based on the source from Kelly's Chronicles.
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                            • P Pete OHanlon

                              I would hold on a mo Sean. Let's get it clarified that this article is plagiarized first - I'm not so sure it is.

                              This space for rent

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                              Marco Bertschi
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                              This thread has risen over anything that can be used to discuss. Are you now sure, or unsure?

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                              • J Jochen Arndt

                                He added the link after Tino's message. But it still does not match the requirements:

                                • Even with the link there is no indication what has been copied.
                                • There may be a license discrepance (article is CPOL but the used source may have a different license). He should have asked the author.
                                • The source code (downloads and browse) does not contain a reference.
                                • Most of the article code is located in one file which is completely based on the source from Kelly's Chronicles.
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                                Marco Bertschi
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                                Thanks for the clarification works, Jochen!

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                                • S Sean Ewington

                                  There's a lot of articles there. I'll dig in. Will take a little time, though

                                  Thanks, Sean Ewington CodeProject

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                                  Marco Bertschi
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                                  Go ahead, see Jochen's message below.

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                                  • P Pete OHanlon

                                    Nevermind - I managed to see where he's doing the repackaging. Very naughty.

                                    This space for rent

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                                    syed shanu
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                                    Dear All, @Sean-Ewington ,I have send you mail,Today i chat with Mr Kelly Martens and asked permission to use the function and also in article to add his name and link to his original blog post,Kindly check your mail and if all fine kindly reopen the closed article. Thank you all for your comments.let me clear something here. 1) The article which is in discussion was been initially published during 2014.it was the time when i start writing articles. 2).The idea of the article is to read and write text from the external program without modifying the source code. 3) For this concept i search and found few articles which is related to that and using that i have made a sample which is some what advance version for reading and writing text from external programs. 4) When i read Kelly's Chronicles article all his background process few functions was related to my work and used and extended that to make with live sample. 5) In Kelly's Chronicles link he has mentioned as " I won’t be able to use these concepts at work yet but will once we upgrade our framework version. Hope it helps someone."Even kelly's Chronicles point is the source code is useful for some for implementing in their project and also i have developed this article not for own use ,I made that for the community. 6) I have added kelly's Chronicles name and link as reference in my article. 7) The article is closed now,I know well as Plagiarized article should be deleted,I respect that but the article is not exactly plagiarized ,as i have presented the reference links and my demo application is entirely different from others and it contains few functions which will be as common function method for reading and writing text from and to external programs. I just want to clarify what it has and never mind even if its deleted as the article is very old I respect Plagiarized article should be deleted.

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                                    • S Sean Ewington

                                      There's a lot of articles there. I'll dig in. Will take a little time, though

                                      Thanks, Sean Ewington CodeProject

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                                      syed shanu
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                                      @Sean-Ewingtonn ,I have send you mail,Today i chat with Mr Kelly Martens and asked permission to use the function and also in article to add his name and link to his original blog post,Kindly check your mail and if all fine kindly reopen the closed article.

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