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  • L Lost User

    Software developers teaching robots to fight..? They've got no chance! :laugh:

    Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.

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    Daniel Pfeffer
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    As Sun Tzu said, fighting is the most primitive way of making war on your enemies. :-D

    If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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      As Sun Tzu said, fighting is the most primitive way of making war on your enemies. :-D

      If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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      Lost User
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      Yes, but the man was also a master of the obvious, like telling us to take care that the wind comes from behind when you intend to set something on fire.

      The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
      This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
      "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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        Yes, but the man was also a master of the obvious, like telling us to take care that the wind comes from behind when you intend to set something on fire.

        The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
        This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
        "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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        W Balboos GHB
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        CDP1802 wrote:

        Yes, but the man was also a master of the obvious,

        Perhaps it's just that he knew his audience? Actually, when I create a user interface, it's much the same, conceptually (except the fire part). The "Press Any Key" scenario is something I've actually witnessed, live. Thus, we complete the circle, for software developer -> fight -> obvious precautions: He obviously had user problems of his own.

        Ravings en masse^

        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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          Yes, but the man was also a master of the obvious, like telling us to take care that the wind comes from behind when you intend to set something on fire.

          The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
          This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
          "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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          Nathan Minier
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          You'd be amazed how necessary that sort of instruction is. Have a look at a Claymore mine if you have any questions..."Front Toward Enemy"

          "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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            You'd be amazed how necessary that sort of instruction is. Have a look at a Claymore mine if you have any questions..."Front Toward Enemy"

            "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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            charlieg
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            Claymore - :) When my son had his own squad of newbie privates, he would always ask them before going on patrol, "I go through the door first, please don't shoot me in the back. Got it?" "how necessary" - years (decades) ago, my dad wrote a program for IBM that did the divisional budget. This was before the days of the PC. People would enter their #s and it would roll them up in a report. He got a call one day: user: "Your program does not work." him: "Really? Where are you in running it?" user: "It's stuck on my username. It's just blinking at me." him: "Press return." user: "Hey, you fixed it!" These users still exist today.

            Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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              CDP1802 wrote:

              Yes, but the man was also a master of the obvious,

              Perhaps it's just that he knew his audience? Actually, when I create a user interface, it's much the same, conceptually (except the fire part). The "Press Any Key" scenario is something I've actually witnessed, live. Thus, we complete the circle, for software developer -> fight -> obvious precautions: He obviously had user problems of his own.

              Ravings en masse^

              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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              Lost User
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              Obviously, soldiers always have been trained to do exactly what they are told and not to waste any time thinking about it. Like the guys I had trained urban combat with. We were told to line up to the right and to the left of a door, throw in a grenade and then storm the room. The other group did exactly that - without waiting for the grenade. You should have seen their faces.

              The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
              This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
              "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                You'd be amazed how necessary that sort of instruction is. Have a look at a Claymore mine if you have any questions..."Front Toward Enemy"

                "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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                Lost User
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                Yes, but GI proofing everything takes that to a whole new level. I expect warning labels like 'may contain traces of explosives' any time now.

                The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                  Claymore - :) When my son had his own squad of newbie privates, he would always ask them before going on patrol, "I go through the door first, please don't shoot me in the back. Got it?" "how necessary" - years (decades) ago, my dad wrote a program for IBM that did the divisional budget. This was before the days of the PC. People would enter their #s and it would roll them up in a report. He got a call one day: user: "Your program does not work." him: "Really? Where are you in running it?" user: "It's stuck on my username. It's just blinking at me." him: "Press return." user: "Hey, you fixed it!" These users still exist today.

                  Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                  >>These users still exist today. And they are still looking for the "any" key. :) Old system had a run light and a wait light. Operator was standing, just looking at the machine. "What is the matter"? "The light says wait".

                  Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous

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                    Claymore - :) When my son had his own squad of newbie privates, he would always ask them before going on patrol, "I go through the door first, please don't shoot me in the back. Got it?" "how necessary" - years (decades) ago, my dad wrote a program for IBM that did the divisional budget. This was before the days of the PC. People would enter their #s and it would roll them up in a report. He got a call one day: user: "Your program does not work." him: "Really? Where are you in running it?" user: "It's stuck on my username. It's just blinking at me." him: "Press return." user: "Hey, you fixed it!" These users still exist today.

                    Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                    Lost User
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                    charlieg wrote:

                    "I go through the door first, please don't shoot me in the back. Got it?"

                    That's why our sarges are smart enough to follow their squad. That and the tradition that our sarge is always more intimidating than the enemy.

                    The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                    This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                    "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                    • L Lost User

                      Obviously, soldiers always have been trained to do exactly what they are told and not to waste any time thinking about it. Like the guys I had trained urban combat with. We were told to line up to the right and to the left of a door, throw in a grenade and then storm the room. The other group did exactly that - without waiting for the grenade. You should have seen their faces.

                      The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                      This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                      "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                      Daniel Pfeffer
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                      CDP1802 wrote:

                      The other group did exactly that - without waiting for the grenade.

                      :omg: I don't know if such soldiers scare the enemy, but they certainly scare me!

                      If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                        CDP1802 wrote:

                        The other group did exactly that - without waiting for the grenade.

                        :omg: I don't know if such soldiers scare the enemy, but they certainly scare me!

                        If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                        Lost User
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                        Chances are good that they will remember the lesson. In training a grenade does little more than making you look quite dumb. When there is no more time for training, Darwin probably takes over.

                        The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                        This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                        "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                        • L Lost User

                          Yes, but GI proofing everything takes that to a whole new level. I expect warning labels like 'may contain traces of explosives' any time now.

                          The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                          This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                          "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                          charlieg
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                          :thumbsup:

                          Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                          • L Lost User

                            Yes, but the man was also a master of the obvious, like telling us to take care that the wind comes from behind when you intend to set something on fire.

                            The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                            This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                            "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                            Frank Alviani
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                            I have a WW I engineer's manual I found years ago in a used book store. It includes the warning "Never crimp blasting caps with your teeth".. :~ I assume that was inserted as a response to one or more real incidents... X|

                            'PLAN' is NOT one of those four-letter words.
                            'When money talks, nobody listens to the customer anymore.'

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                              Yes, but GI proofing everything takes that to a whole new level. I expect warning labels like 'may contain traces of explosives' any time now.

                              The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                              This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                              "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                              Foothill
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                              Well, as a gag about how Navy maintenance documentation was written, we came up with a little gem starting: USNMAITMAN 1.0.0.1

                              D1R - Waste Liquid Evacuation [Perform this maintenance task first each day and throughout the day as required] 1.  Find the nearest head. 2.  Starting from the left, identify the first unoccupied wall mounted liquid waste disposal appliance. 2.1 If there are no unoccupied wall mounted liquid waste disposal appliances, wait until one becomes available. 3.  Stand in front of the wall mounted liquid waste disposal appliance.     NOTE* Do not stand more than 6" away from the closest part of the wall mounted liquid waste disposal appliance. 4.  Using the thumb and index finger of your right hand, grasp the zipper of your leg coverings. ...

                              I think you get the point.

                              if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); } Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016

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