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  • V Vivi Chellappa

    There is an excellent solution and it was found very successful in Spain a few centuries ago. Deport all Muslims back to their home countries! :cool:

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    Pete OHanlon
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    So Muslims that are born in a country, may be they are 4th or 5th generation, which country do they get deported to?

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    • S Slacker007

      God be with the victims and their families. Hope you guys learn that you have really big fucking problems right now with no solutions in site, and your governments are to blame.

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      And Merkel and the Eurocrats just keep inviting more and more muslims in.... It is going to end in a very violent fashion. Meanwhile in the UK, we have discovered a big new paedo ring of muslims we let in in the 70s. What do you want to happen to your kids, fucked by a grunting aged muslim pig or blown to bits at a pop concert? Great fucking choice eh?

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      • P Pete OHanlon

        So Muslims that are born in a country, may be they are 4th or 5th generation, which country do they get deported to?

        This space for rent

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        Munchies_Matt
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        Where their great grandparents came from of course. Buy their property and business' off them at market rates. Give them the cash. Put them on planes. Problem solved in a fair and decent way.

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          Where their great grandparents came from of course. Buy their property and business' off them at market rates. Give them the cash. Put them on planes. Problem solved in a fair and decent way.

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          Pete OHanlon
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          That's assuming their great grandparents came from the same place.

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          • P Pete OHanlon

            That's assuming their great grandparents came from the same place.

            This space for rent

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            If their ancestors don't all come from the same country, why not allow them to choose their destination from among the countries of origin? </irony-sarcasm> EDIT: added irony/sarcasm

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            • P Pete OHanlon

              That's assuming their great grandparents came from the same place.

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              You mean Pakistanis often marry Syrians? You would be lucky. They probably only marry people from their own village. Anyway, give them the choice. Perhaps they can have dual naationality, who gives a fuck, provided they arent in the UK. The first thing to do is outlaw halal meat production. It is illegal anyway, under EU and UK law. Then ban the burkah, and all head coverings, as being representetive of women repression. Then lets empty the prisons and repatriate all muslim inmates. And then enforce UK law as it stands, hate speach, illegal, so any imam calling jews anc christians kaffur, locked up. Any book that does the same. Illegal. SO the koran and hadith are banned. ANyone holding one is locked up. ANd deported. Lets just make it so uncomfortable that many of them leave of their own accord. The left overs probably arent that islamic and might be allowed to stay.

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              • P Pete OHanlon

                So Muslims that are born in a country, may be they are 4th or 5th generation, which country do they get deported to?

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                Vivi Chellappa
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                Nuke Mecca and Medina and tell the Mozzies they can pray to a glass parking lot! Tell them "What goes around, comes around" and point to the innumerable shrines of other religions they have demolished, including, in the most recent past, the Bamiyan Buddha. Shut down all mosques. Impose a ban on assembly of Mozzies. Make sure you have butchers selling only pork in Muslim neighbourhoods. If they want civil rights when they are in a minority, they should be prepared to grant civil rights to others in countries where they are in a majority. Reciprocity. Otherwise known as payback. It is a bitch, I know.

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                • D Daniel Pfeffer

                  If their ancestors don't all come from the same country, why not allow them to choose their destination from among the countries of origin? </irony-sarcasm> EDIT: added irony/sarcasm

                  If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                  Be careful what you ask for.

                  Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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                    You mean Pakistanis often marry Syrians? You would be lucky. They probably only marry people from their own village. Anyway, give them the choice. Perhaps they can have dual naationality, who gives a fuck, provided they arent in the UK. The first thing to do is outlaw halal meat production. It is illegal anyway, under EU and UK law. Then ban the burkah, and all head coverings, as being representetive of women repression. Then lets empty the prisons and repatriate all muslim inmates. And then enforce UK law as it stands, hate speach, illegal, so any imam calling jews anc christians kaffur, locked up. Any book that does the same. Illegal. SO the koran and hadith are banned. ANyone holding one is locked up. ANd deported. Lets just make it so uncomfortable that many of them leave of their own accord. The left overs probably arent that islamic and might be allowed to stay.

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                    The first thing to do is outlaw halal meat production

                    I agree 100%. I can understand that before some centuries this was a acceptable (and maybe the best available) praxis, but meanwhile we have better possibilities. But even our better possibilities can fail and need to be controlled better.

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                      Be careful what you ask for.

                      Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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                      You're right; I must have left out the 'sarcasm'/'irony' indicator on this. My apologies. Whether anyone likes it or not, a person born in the UK is a natural-born citizen of the country. While there may be a legal case for revoking the nationality and deportation of a naturalized terrorist, I don't see how you could do this for native-born ones.

                      If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                        You mean Pakistanis often marry Syrians? You would be lucky. They probably only marry people from their own village. Anyway, give them the choice. Perhaps they can have dual naationality, who gives a fuck, provided they arent in the UK. The first thing to do is outlaw halal meat production. It is illegal anyway, under EU and UK law. Then ban the burkah, and all head coverings, as being representetive of women repression. Then lets empty the prisons and repatriate all muslim inmates. And then enforce UK law as it stands, hate speach, illegal, so any imam calling jews anc christians kaffur, locked up. Any book that does the same. Illegal. SO the koran and hadith are banned. ANyone holding one is locked up. ANd deported. Lets just make it so uncomfortable that many of them leave of their own accord. The left overs probably arent that islamic and might be allowed to stay.

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                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                        The first thing to do is outlaw halal meat production. It is illegal anyway, under EU and UK law.

                        Are you also going to ban Kosher meat production? It's very similar to Halal.

                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                        Then ban the burkah, and all head coverings, as being representetive of women repression.

                        I think you might have some problems with this. Are you going to ban the wearing of long-sleeve dresses? Scarves? How exactly do you define a "burkah"?

                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                        Then lets empty the prisons and repatriate all muslim inmates.

                        What about Muslim criminals born in the UK? Are you going to strip them of their citizenship based on their religion?

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                        Any book that does the same. Illegal. SO the koran and hadith are banned. ANyone holding one is locked up. ANd deported.

                        There are plenty of things that would probably be classed as "hate speech" in the Bible, and many other books. Are you going to ban them all?

                        If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                        • M Munchies_Matt

                          Where their great grandparents came from of course. Buy their property and business' off them at market rates. Give them the cash. Put them on planes. Problem solved in a fair and decent way.

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                          An you say all that as 'a better person'... The problem with the (Islamic) religious war is that it makes no difference between soldiers and non-soldiers, between old and young... For that we call it terrorism... So what make you 'a better person' if you do the same? Regardless of age/deeds/sex/occupation - you transport them out of the country because they are Muslim... It has been tried with different interpretations if 'transport' and on different population... No much good in the long run... Isn't all this means that I (or anyone I know) have the answer, but it does not justify some wrong-doing...

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                          • D Daniel Pfeffer

                            You're right; I must have left out the 'sarcasm'/'irony' indicator on this. My apologies. Whether anyone likes it or not, a person born in the UK is a natural-born citizen of the country. While there may be a legal case for revoking the nationality and deportation of a naturalized terrorist, I don't see how you could do this for native-born ones.

                            If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                            On another reading your meaning is very clear. Indeed I agree with you.

                            Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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                            • V Vivi Chellappa

                              Nuke Mecca and Medina and tell the Mozzies they can pray to a glass parking lot! Tell them "What goes around, comes around" and point to the innumerable shrines of other religions they have demolished, including, in the most recent past, the Bamiyan Buddha. Shut down all mosques. Impose a ban on assembly of Mozzies. Make sure you have butchers selling only pork in Muslim neighbourhoods. If they want civil rights when they are in a minority, they should be prepared to grant civil rights to others in countries where they are in a majority. Reciprocity. Otherwise known as payback. It is a bitch, I know.

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                              Daniel Pfeffer
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                              The problem with your suggestions is that they are contrary to the most basic principles of Western Civilization. The biggest problem with Europe is multiculturalism, i.e. the idea that all cultures are equal. They obviously are not. If someone brings his custom of child marriage from the Third World to the UK, it should not be excused on the grounds of "cultural diversity"; he and his accessories (the girl's parents) should be prosecuted for statutory rape. If a girl's family think that "honour killings" are acceptable, perhaps a life sentence bunged up with their own chamber pots will teach them differently. And if some murderous bastards even think of planning terrorist actions, the laws designed to handle the IRA are still on the books; lock them up until they're too feeble to even lift a knife, to say nothing of stabbing someone with it!

                              If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                              • D Daniel Pfeffer

                                Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                The first thing to do is outlaw halal meat production. It is illegal anyway, under EU and UK law.

                                Are you also going to ban Kosher meat production? It's very similar to Halal.

                                Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                Then ban the burkah, and all head coverings, as being representetive of women repression.

                                I think you might have some problems with this. Are you going to ban the wearing of long-sleeve dresses? Scarves? How exactly do you define a "burkah"?

                                Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                Then lets empty the prisons and repatriate all muslim inmates.

                                What about Muslim criminals born in the UK? Are you going to strip them of their citizenship based on their religion?

                                Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                Any book that does the same. Illegal. SO the koran and hadith are banned. ANyone holding one is locked up. ANd deported.

                                There are plenty of things that would probably be classed as "hate speech" in the Bible, and many other books. Are you going to ban them all?

                                If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                Even you did not ask me, I feel free to give my comments

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                                Are you also going to ban Kosher meat production? It's very similar to Halal.

                                From my point of view yes, if we have better possibilities. The question is, are the new possibilities really better?

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                                I think you might have some problems with this. Are you going to ban the wearing of long-sleeve dresses? Scarves? How exactly do you define a "burkah"?

                                "burkah"::= hiding the face. Even I'm not allowed to do this under some circumstances.

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                                  Even you did not ask me, I feel free to give my comments

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                                  Are you also going to ban Kosher meat production? It's very similar to Halal.

                                  From my point of view yes, if we have better possibilities. The question is, are the new possibilities really better?

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                                  I think you might have some problems with this. Are you going to ban the wearing of long-sleeve dresses? Scarves? How exactly do you define a "burkah"?

                                  "burkah"::= hiding the face. Even I'm not allowed to do this under some circumstances.

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                                  0x01AA wrote:

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                                  Are you also going to ban Kosher meat production? It's very similar to Halal.

                                  From my point of view yes, if we have better possibilities. The question is, are the new possibilities really better?

                                  The question is - are you banning the practice of religiously-acceptable animal slaughter because it is excessively cruel to animals, or are you banning it because of anti-{Jewish, Moslem} sentiment? From the cruelty point of view, I doubt that a Kosher/Halal slaughterhouse is any less cruel than a "modern" slaughterhouse. If you are of the opinion that vegetarianism is morally better than meat eating, that is a different debate.

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                                  "burkah"::= hiding the face. Even I'm not allowed to do this under some circumstances.

                                  So, will ski masks be illegal, too? Or will there be a special dispensation for using them on the ski slopes? How about cross-country skiing?

                                  If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                    0x01AA wrote:

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                                    Are you also going to ban Kosher meat production? It's very similar to Halal.

                                    From my point of view yes, if we have better possibilities. The question is, are the new possibilities really better?

                                    The question is - are you banning the practice of religiously-acceptable animal slaughter because it is excessively cruel to animals, or are you banning it because of anti-{Jewish, Moslem} sentiment? From the cruelty point of view, I doubt that a Kosher/Halal slaughterhouse is any less cruel than a "modern" slaughterhouse. If you are of the opinion that vegetarianism is morally better than meat eating, that is a different debate.

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                                    "burkah"::= hiding the face. Even I'm not allowed to do this under some circumstances.

                                    So, will ski masks be illegal, too? Or will there be a special dispensation for using them on the ski slopes? How about cross-country skiing?

                                    If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                    The question is - are you banning the practice of religiously-acceptable animal slaughter because it is....

                                    No, I would banning it if there is a better way. BTW: Same praxis was common also in Europe before some "couple" of years.

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                                    So, will ski masks be illegal, too

                                    Stay serious! [Edit]And yes, if somebody feels to Need to wear a burka, please go to an area where it is common to do it. A Location where also wearing a Bikini by foreigns is not allowed...[/Edit]

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                                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                      The first thing to do is outlaw halal meat production. It is illegal anyway, under EU and UK law.

                                      Are you also going to ban Kosher meat production? It's very similar to Halal.

                                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                      Then ban the burkah, and all head coverings, as being representetive of women repression.

                                      I think you might have some problems with this. Are you going to ban the wearing of long-sleeve dresses? Scarves? How exactly do you define a "burkah"?

                                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                      Then lets empty the prisons and repatriate all muslim inmates.

                                      What about Muslim criminals born in the UK? Are you going to strip them of their citizenship based on their religion?

                                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                      Any book that does the same. Illegal. SO the koran and hadith are banned. ANyone holding one is locked up. ANd deported.

                                      There are plenty of things that would probably be classed as "hate speech" in the Bible, and many other books. Are you going to ban them all?

                                      If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                      >Are you also going to ban Kosher Yes. The rules are the rules, period. >Are you going to ban the wearing of long-sleeve dresses? Scarves? sigh. the difference is pretty obvious you know. > Are you going to strip them of their citizenship based on their religion? Yes. Didnt I make it obvious enough that that was my intent? > Are you going to ban them all? The rules are the rules. Period.

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                                        0x01AA wrote:

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                                        Are you also going to ban Kosher meat production? It's very similar to Halal.

                                        From my point of view yes, if we have better possibilities. The question is, are the new possibilities really better?

                                        The question is - are you banning the practice of religiously-acceptable animal slaughter because it is excessively cruel to animals, or are you banning it because of anti-{Jewish, Moslem} sentiment? From the cruelty point of view, I doubt that a Kosher/Halal slaughterhouse is any less cruel than a "modern" slaughterhouse. If you are of the opinion that vegetarianism is morally better than meat eating, that is a different debate.

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                                        "burkah"::= hiding the face. Even I'm not allowed to do this under some circumstances.

                                        So, will ski masks be illegal, too? Or will there be a special dispensation for using them on the ski slopes? How about cross-country skiing?

                                        If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                        > are you banning the practice of religiously-acceptable animal slaughter because Because it is against UK law. If a religion practiced paedophilia would you permit it? Of course not. The law is the law. Period. > So, will ski masks be illegal, Dont be silly. The repression of women for religious reasons is what I am talking about, not head coverings persee, and it takes many forms, from head and body coverings to forbidding them to drive, and have freedom of choice.

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                                          An you say all that as 'a better person'... The problem with the (Islamic) religious war is that it makes no difference between soldiers and non-soldiers, between old and young... For that we call it terrorism... So what make you 'a better person' if you do the same? Regardless of age/deeds/sex/occupation - you transport them out of the country because they are Muslim... It has been tried with different interpretations if 'transport' and on different population... No much good in the long run... Isn't all this means that I (or anyone I know) have the answer, but it does not justify some wrong-doing...

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                                          > An you say all that as 'a better person' No, as a DIFFERENT person. Western and Islamic values are too different to share the same country, and to do so causes them both stress, so they must be physically separated.

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