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  • B Brad Jennings

    BTW, it's not that I actually approve of stealing copyrighted material, it's that I've often downloaded mp3s to "preview" what I was thinking about buying. Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson

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    Lost User
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    The reason why people feel the need to steal is because all these are heavily overpriced. You can't buy all the music that comes out. Obviously, there are people who are so heavily into music that they want to hear anything that comes out. Music industry will have to make it really cheap. Otherwise, despite all the "artificial" barriers, people will still find ways to get pirated stuff. Btw, is hacking an ilegal operation legal? My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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      The recording industry has tapped into two Internet file-swapping services and is flashing messages to music traders warning them they're breaking the law. "COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT WARNING," the message reads. "When you break the law, you risk legal penalties. There is a simple way to avoid that risk: DON'T STEAL MUSIC." At the same time, the industry is collecting the user names of people suspected of illegally offering copyright material with the file-sharing services Kazaa and Grokster, but it doesn't intend to pursue legal action, said Recording Industry Association of America President Cary Sherman. Recording industry targets users of Kazaa, Grokster with warning messages[^] Don't :beer: and drive.

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      If anyone hacked into a legally operated computer, then they will have FBI charge them as a terrorist. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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        The reason why people feel the need to steal is because all these are heavily overpriced. You can't buy all the music that comes out. Obviously, there are people who are so heavily into music that they want to hear anything that comes out. Music industry will have to make it really cheap. Otherwise, despite all the "artificial" barriers, people will still find ways to get pirated stuff. Btw, is hacking an ilegal operation legal? My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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        Brad Jennings
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        Thomas George wrote: Btw, is hacking an ilegal operation legal? Good point, two wrongs don't make a right. Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson

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        • T Ted Ferenc

          Years back there were similar arguments about casette tapes. Now who in their right mind would buy expensive bottled water when it is free from a tap?


          If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants. - Isaac Newton 1676

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          Nitron
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          we have to pay for tap water here in the US - Nitron


          "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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          • B Brad Jennings

            Thomas George wrote: Btw, is hacking an ilegal operation legal? Good point, two wrongs don't make a right. Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson

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            Brad Jennings wrote: two wrongs don't make a right. but three lefts do! :rolleyes: - Nitron


            "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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              Brad Jennings wrote: it's that I've often downloaded mp3s to "preview" what I was thinking about buying. Exactly, I've downloaded....say three MP3's this week. I've consequently bought an album....how are they losing out? They still make their money.


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              l a u r e n
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              exactly


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                Brad Jennings wrote: two wrongs don't make a right. but three lefts do! :rolleyes: - Nitron


                "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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                Brad Jennings
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                :-D Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                  we have to pay for tap water here in the US - Nitron


                  "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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                  James T Johnson
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                  Nitron wrote: we have to pay for tap water here in the US Depends on where you live, if you live in the city then you probably have to pay for the water you use; but for those in the country you have well water which is free for the most part. You have to pay for the well to be drilled and the pump plus the electricity for the pump. The downside is that if you lose electricity you lose your water too. Then again the cost to fill the $1 bottle of water from your tap is mere pennies (if even that) :) James "It is self repeating, of unknown pattern" Data - Star Trek: The Next Generation

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                    Nitron wrote: we have to pay for tap water here in the US Depends on where you live, if you live in the city then you probably have to pay for the water you use; but for those in the country you have well water which is free for the most part. You have to pay for the well to be drilled and the pump plus the electricity for the pump. The downside is that if you lose electricity you lose your water too. Then again the cost to fill the $1 bottle of water from your tap is mere pennies (if even that) :) James "It is self repeating, of unknown pattern" Data - Star Trek: The Next Generation

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                    James T. Johnson wrote: the cost to fill the $1 bottle of water from your tap is mere pennies (if even that) Yep. Here, the price of water is slightly less than 1 cent per gallon - and this is water-hungry S Calif.

                    "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." - Jesus
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                    • K Kant

                      The recording industry has tapped into two Internet file-swapping services and is flashing messages to music traders warning them they're breaking the law. "COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT WARNING," the message reads. "When you break the law, you risk legal penalties. There is a simple way to avoid that risk: DON'T STEAL MUSIC." At the same time, the industry is collecting the user names of people suspected of illegally offering copyright material with the file-sharing services Kazaa and Grokster, but it doesn't intend to pursue legal action, said Recording Industry Association of America President Cary Sherman. Recording industry targets users of Kazaa, Grokster with warning messages[^] Don't :beer: and drive.

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                      Kant wrote: The recording industry has tapped into two Internet file-swapping services and is flashing messages to music traders warning them they're breaking the law. And they aren't breaking the law doing this?:mad: No, I've never used Napster/Kaazaa/Gnutella/whatever. But I believe in freedom. Vikram. "There's probably a Nish-like alien answering VB questions on a CP forum as we speak." - adamUK in The Lounge, discussing aliens and parallel universes. "Do not give redundant error messages again and again." - A classmate of mine, while giving a class talk on error detection in compiler design.

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                        we have to pay for tap water here in the US - Nitron


                        "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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                        Vikram A Punathambekar
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                        Nitron wrote: we have to pay for tap water here in the US So do we in India. Worse, due to the monsoon failure (err...it's never "succeeded"), we get water only once in 3 days. :mad: So, we stock up water in huge amounts. But we use borewells for other purposes (bathing, washing clothes and utensils, etc). Vikram. "There's probably a Nish-like alien answering VB questions on a CP forum as we speak." - adamUK in The Lounge, discussing aliens and parallel universes. "Do not give redundant error messages again and again." - A classmate of mine, while giving a class talk on error detection in compiler design.

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                          we have to pay for tap water here in the US - Nitron


                          "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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                          Ted Ferenc
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                          Same in the UK, my point as you no doubt appreciate, was that with "good marketing" and good products people will buy goods even though there are "free" alternatives out there


                          If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants. - Isaac Newton 1676

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