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    I know that programming questions are not to be published in the Lounge and this could qualify, but still... I tried the american coffee, and... I liked it. Even my girlfriend, who doesn't like (italian) coffee at all, liked it. So the question is: how do I brew it at home? In Italy we have mailny espresso machines and moka cafetieres, and I know nothing else. Thanks for your suggestions :)

    * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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      I know that programming questions are not to be published in the Lounge and this could qualify, but still... I tried the american coffee, and... I liked it. Even my girlfriend, who doesn't like (italian) coffee at all, liked it. So the question is: how do I brew it at home? In Italy we have mailny espresso machines and moka cafetieres, and I know nothing else. Thanks for your suggestions :)

      * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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      Buy cheap powdered coffee and a filter. Put coffee into filter. Heat water. Pour water over ground coffee. Add a cows' worth of milk. Presto, American coffee.

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        Buy cheap powdered coffee and a filter. Put coffee into filter. Heat water. Pour water over ground coffee. Add a cows' worth of milk. Presto, American coffee.

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        Basically a tea :D I like it black and unsugared (that's why I'm thinking of switching to american coffee).

        * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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          I know that programming questions are not to be published in the Lounge and this could qualify, but still... I tried the american coffee, and... I liked it. Even my girlfriend, who doesn't like (italian) coffee at all, liked it. So the question is: how do I brew it at home? In Italy we have mailny espresso machines and moka cafetieres, and I know nothing else. Thanks for your suggestions :)

          * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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          Get a cafetiere[^] and ground coffee (you can use Espresso if you want to start with). You put coffee ground in, add hot water, and let it stew to the level you want. Add milk and sugar if you wish (or an extra shot of espresso if you need waking up) and Robert is your father's brother.

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            Basically a tea :D I like it black and unsugared (that's why I'm thinking of switching to american coffee).

            * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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            I guess you could water down a real coffee until you come close to the taste :D Coffee is not just a stimulant, it is also a laxative. Drink in moderation :-\

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              Get a cafetiere[^] and ground coffee (you can use Espresso if you want to start with). You put coffee ground in, add hot water, and let it stew to the level you want. Add milk and sugar if you wish (or an extra shot of espresso if you need waking up) and Robert is your father's brother.

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              That's American coffee; weak and with milk. I'd prefer an Irish one.

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                I guess you could water down a real coffee until you come close to the taste :D Coffee is not just a stimulant, it is also a laxative. Drink in moderation :-\

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                Not really, it changes a lot - in fact watered down espresso or moka is quite terrible.

                * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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                  Not really, it changes a lot - in fact watered down espresso or moka is quite terrible.

                  * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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                  I don't know what a moca is, but espresso is just water that has been passed through ground coffee. The only difference is the amount of water used.

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                    That's American coffee; weak and with milk. I'd prefer an Irish one.

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                    I like that too, but you should go very easy on the coffee.:java:

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                      I know that programming questions are not to be published in the Lounge and this could qualify, but still... I tried the american coffee, and... I liked it. Even my girlfriend, who doesn't like (italian) coffee at all, liked it. So the question is: how do I brew it at home? In Italy we have mailny espresso machines and moka cafetieres, and I know nothing else. Thanks for your suggestions :)

                      * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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                      Easy, make a cup of good flavoured Italian Coffee, and pour into a cup. Pour the coffee down the sink. Top up the cup with hot, warm or tepid water and you have American Coffee.

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                        I know that programming questions are not to be published in the Lounge and this could qualify, but still... I tried the american coffee, and... I liked it. Even my girlfriend, who doesn't like (italian) coffee at all, liked it. So the question is: how do I brew it at home? In Italy we have mailny espresso machines and moka cafetieres, and I know nothing else. Thanks for your suggestions :)

                        * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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                        Despite all the Euro-jabber, the primary difference between American coffee and almost everyone elses coffee is the roast. It's notably lighter. The fact that it's not as strong as espresso is because it's not made like espresso. You were given lots of advice, mostly knee-jerk criticism (a Euro-Habit when discussing American fare), but the roast and strength are the two characteristics that define it. "Latin-Roast" coffee, which is what I mostly buy, is in between, often favoring a darker side of in-between. All coffee, despite the over-priced systems, is an elution of ground roasted beans by (normally very hot) water. That, too, makes a big difference: DRIP - very common - coffee is ground and place in a filter - hot water poured through once. PERK - Coffee is in a basket and boiling water causes a pumping action that pumps water up to the coffee from where it drips back into the pot. This continues until "done", which is automatic for electric pots and up to your taste for stove-top models. In this method, the coffee is heated and repumped many times - and this strongly influences the flavor. MUD - Use very finely ground coffee and add boiling water. Stir. Wait. Stir. The finely ground coffee will settle to the bottom in a stable cake (hence very fine grind, like Turkish coffee). Coffee flavor is at its most natural state - and really damn good. VACCUUM DRIP - a piece of lab-ware for the home. In this device, water is in a lower pot, coffee in an upper funnel that fits air-tight to the lower pot, and has some sort of filter (net or "Cory rod" that allows the free flow of liquid. When the water in the lower pot boils it if forced to the upper pot by steam and there brews the coffee. It can be held there somewhat indefinitely based upon your personal taste - brewing and keeping hot as long as you like without boiling. When taken from the heat source, condensed steam in the bottom causes a partial vacuum which sucks the eluted coffee back to the bottom. I love these and if you can find a glass one, it's awesome. You know how the espresso-type machines work.

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                          Get a cafetiere[^] and ground coffee (you can use Espresso if you want to start with). You put coffee ground in, add hot water, and let it stew to the level you want. Add milk and sugar if you wish (or an extra shot of espresso if you need waking up) and Robert is your father's brother.

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                          OriginalGriff wrote:

                          ...Robert is your father's brother.

                          While this works, Robert is your Mother's Brother sounds better.

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                            Easy, make a cup of good flavoured Italian Coffee, and pour into a cup. Pour the coffee down the sink. Top up the cup with hot, warm or tepid water and you have American Coffee.

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                            Now I know how my American mates are drinking like a 40oz cup of "coffee". :suss:

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                              I know that programming questions are not to be published in the Lounge and this could qualify, but still... I tried the american coffee, and... I liked it. Even my girlfriend, who doesn't like (italian) coffee at all, liked it. So the question is: how do I brew it at home? In Italy we have mailny espresso machines and moka cafetieres, and I know nothing else. Thanks for your suggestions :)

                              * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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                              Cowboy coffee: 1. Boil a couple of mugs of water. 2. Throw in a handful of coffee grounds, no need to wash hand first. 3. Wait a few minutes. 4. Drink Wimps can strain the mixture when pouring, to remove grounds. Q.E.D.

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                                Easy, make a cup of good flavoured Italian Coffee, and pour into a cup. Pour the coffee down the sink. Top up the cup with hot, warm or tepid water and you have American Coffee.

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                                Yup, the taste is actually the same :D sometimes though I prefer it as I can lower my daily amount of sugar and keep chugging coffee without destroying my heart!

                                * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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                                  Despite all the Euro-jabber, the primary difference between American coffee and almost everyone elses coffee is the roast. It's notably lighter. The fact that it's not as strong as espresso is because it's not made like espresso. You were given lots of advice, mostly knee-jerk criticism (a Euro-Habit when discussing American fare), but the roast and strength are the two characteristics that define it. "Latin-Roast" coffee, which is what I mostly buy, is in between, often favoring a darker side of in-between. All coffee, despite the over-priced systems, is an elution of ground roasted beans by (normally very hot) water. That, too, makes a big difference: DRIP - very common - coffee is ground and place in a filter - hot water poured through once. PERK - Coffee is in a basket and boiling water causes a pumping action that pumps water up to the coffee from where it drips back into the pot. This continues until "done", which is automatic for electric pots and up to your taste for stove-top models. In this method, the coffee is heated and repumped many times - and this strongly influences the flavor. MUD - Use very finely ground coffee and add boiling water. Stir. Wait. Stir. The finely ground coffee will settle to the bottom in a stable cake (hence very fine grind, like Turkish coffee). Coffee flavor is at its most natural state - and really damn good. VACCUUM DRIP - a piece of lab-ware for the home. In this device, water is in a lower pot, coffee in an upper funnel that fits air-tight to the lower pot, and has some sort of filter (net or "Cory rod" that allows the free flow of liquid. When the water in the lower pot boils it if forced to the upper pot by steam and there brews the coffee. It can be held there somewhat indefinitely based upon your personal taste - brewing and keeping hot as long as you like without boiling. When taken from the heat source, condensed steam in the bottom causes a partial vacuum which sucks the eluted coffee back to the bottom. I love these and if you can find a glass one, it's awesome. You know how the espresso-type machines work.

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                                  Thanks for the thorough explanation, I tried almost every italian coffee (except the Napoletana) but I'm terribly ignorant of the others.

                                  * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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                                    Get a cafetiere[^] and ground coffee (you can use Espresso if you want to start with). You put coffee ground in, add hot water, and let it stew to the level you want. Add milk and sugar if you wish (or an extra shot of espresso if you need waking up) and Robert is your father's brother.

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                                    So you use a french press to make american coffee? :doh: I'm sensing a mixup of definitions here.

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                                      Despite all the Euro-jabber, the primary difference between American coffee and almost everyone elses coffee is the roast. It's notably lighter. The fact that it's not as strong as espresso is because it's not made like espresso. You were given lots of advice, mostly knee-jerk criticism (a Euro-Habit when discussing American fare), but the roast and strength are the two characteristics that define it. "Latin-Roast" coffee, which is what I mostly buy, is in between, often favoring a darker side of in-between. All coffee, despite the over-priced systems, is an elution of ground roasted beans by (normally very hot) water. That, too, makes a big difference: DRIP - very common - coffee is ground and place in a filter - hot water poured through once. PERK - Coffee is in a basket and boiling water causes a pumping action that pumps water up to the coffee from where it drips back into the pot. This continues until "done", which is automatic for electric pots and up to your taste for stove-top models. In this method, the coffee is heated and repumped many times - and this strongly influences the flavor. MUD - Use very finely ground coffee and add boiling water. Stir. Wait. Stir. The finely ground coffee will settle to the bottom in a stable cake (hence very fine grind, like Turkish coffee). Coffee flavor is at its most natural state - and really damn good. VACCUUM DRIP - a piece of lab-ware for the home. In this device, water is in a lower pot, coffee in an upper funnel that fits air-tight to the lower pot, and has some sort of filter (net or "Cory rod" that allows the free flow of liquid. When the water in the lower pot boils it if forced to the upper pot by steam and there brews the coffee. It can be held there somewhat indefinitely based upon your personal taste - brewing and keeping hot as long as you like without boiling. When taken from the heat source, condensed steam in the bottom causes a partial vacuum which sucks the eluted coffee back to the bottom. I love these and if you can find a glass one, it's awesome. You know how the espresso-type machines work.

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                                      Well said... the bulk of the comments have been "If you don't do it the way I like it, it's wrong...", oh, and add milk and sugar. I like my coffee with a dark roast, and black - no sugar, no milk, no creamer... just water and coffee. And if others don't like it? Feel free to mix your beverage as you desire.

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                                        Well said... the bulk of the comments have been "If you don't do it the way I like it, it's wrong...", oh, and add milk and sugar. I like my coffee with a dark roast, and black - no sugar, no milk, no creamer... just water and coffee. And if others don't like it? Feel free to mix your beverage as you desire.

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                                        That's become my coffee, too. Alas, I'm a bit of a tea snob. I won't annoy anyone for drinking whatever type they like, but putting milk in tea is truly an abomination. If it's their tea, I'll just sit quietly. However, if I game them the leaves I may protest. Still - once I give it to them, it's theirs to do with as they wish. On the other hand, it's like making a whisky sour with a single malt.

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                                          That's become my coffee, too. Alas, I'm a bit of a tea snob. I won't annoy anyone for drinking whatever type they like, but putting milk in tea is truly an abomination. If it's their tea, I'll just sit quietly. However, if I game them the leaves I may protest. Still - once I give it to them, it's theirs to do with as they wish. On the other hand, it's like making a whisky sour with a single malt.

                                          Ravings en masse^

                                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                          W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                          putting milk in tea is truly an abomination.

                                          Burn the Heretic!

                                          W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                          making a whisky sour with a single malt.

                                          People have been hanged for lesser offenses! :mad:

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