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  • D den2k88

    I know that programming questions are not to be published in the Lounge and this could qualify, but still... I tried the american coffee, and... I liked it. Even my girlfriend, who doesn't like (italian) coffee at all, liked it. So the question is: how do I brew it at home? In Italy we have mailny espresso machines and moka cafetieres, and I know nothing else. Thanks for your suggestions :)

    * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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    I was under the impression that american coffee is just like the italian, but with 10 times more water or milk.

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      That's become my coffee, too. Alas, I'm a bit of a tea snob. I won't annoy anyone for drinking whatever type they like, but putting milk in tea is truly an abomination. If it's their tea, I'll just sit quietly. However, if I game them the leaves I may protest. Still - once I give it to them, it's theirs to do with as they wish. On the other hand, it's like making a whisky sour with a single malt.

      Ravings en masse^

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      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      Tim Carmichael
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      My mother took her tea with milk and sugar.. I like it black, like my coffee. And hot... I may live in South Carolina, but I still prefer hot tea.

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        My mother took her tea with milk and sugar.. I like it black, like my coffee. And hot... I may live in South Carolina, but I still prefer hot tea.

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        Tim Carmichael wrote:

        I may live in South Carolina, but I still prefer hot tea.

        That sort of confirms a non-scientific observation I've made. In hot weather, hot tea refreshes; hot coffee doesn't. Of all the various herbs available and used throughout the world, those ancient Chinese really selected a good one.   Confirmed, perhaps, by the incredible spread of it throughout the world.

        Ravings en masse^

        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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        • L Lost User

          I was under the impression that american coffee is just like the italian, but with 10 times more water or milk.

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          W Balboos GHB
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          I verbosely explain some of the differences, above[^]. The idea of "more milk" - perhaps you've never heard of cappuccino? Here's some nutshell concepts:   Espresso/demitasse/Turkish etc. are brewed for drinking in small cups   American coffee is brewed for drinking by the mug-full   Espresso roasts are very darkly roasted, nearly black.   American coffee is lightly roasted (restaurant coffee a bit darker)   And, of course, the preparation method:   BBQ isn't baking isn't frying isn't microwaving.

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          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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          • D den2k88

            Thanks for the thorough explanation, I tried almost every italian coffee (except the Napoletana) but I'm terribly ignorant of the others.

            * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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            Foothill
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            While I can't compete with that detailed description, I can expand on some equipment. I have one of these: drip coffee maker[^] to brew the coffee. You also might invest in a burr grinder[^] so you can buy the beans and grind them fresh. As for the coffee, here's a selfless plug for a local coffee roaster that is excellent: PT's Coffee[^]

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            • W W Balboos GHB

              Tim Carmichael wrote:

              I may live in South Carolina, but I still prefer hot tea.

              That sort of confirms a non-scientific observation I've made. In hot weather, hot tea refreshes; hot coffee doesn't. Of all the various herbs available and used throughout the world, those ancient Chinese really selected a good one.   Confirmed, perhaps, by the incredible spread of it throughout the world.

              Ravings en masse^

              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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              Tim Carmichael
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              I drink hot coffee all day, every day, all year long. If I am out with my wife, she like hot tea, so we get a pot. To me, both refresh...

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              • D den2k88

                I know that programming questions are not to be published in the Lounge and this could qualify, but still... I tried the american coffee, and... I liked it. Even my girlfriend, who doesn't like (italian) coffee at all, liked it. So the question is: how do I brew it at home? In Italy we have mailny espresso machines and moka cafetieres, and I know nothing else. Thanks for your suggestions :)

                * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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                Jeremy Falcon
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                BAM![^]

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                • J Jeremy Falcon

                  BAM![^]

                  Jeremy Falcon

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                  Lost User
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                  Or maybe this one: [http://www.specialty-coffee-advisor.com/cowboy-coffee.html\](http://www.specialty-coffee-advisor.com/cowboy-coffee.html)

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                    Or maybe this one: [http://www.specialty-coffee-advisor.com/cowboy-coffee.html\](http://www.specialty-coffee-advisor.com/cowboy-coffee.html)

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                    Jeremy Falcon
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                    Now we're talking.

                    Jeremy Falcon

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                    • J Jeremy Falcon

                      Now we're talking.

                      Jeremy Falcon

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                      I had the Chance to try it one time at a phoenix horse range... and I enjoyed it really after two hours horse ride to the breakfast :laugh:

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                      • L Lost User

                        I had the Chance to try it one time at a phoenix horse range... and I enjoyed it really after two hours horse ride to the breakfast :laugh:

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                        Jeremy Falcon
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                        Not to sound like a grandpa, but sometimes the best way are the slow and old ways though. Maybe, just maybe people can learn stuff in 80s of life. Maybe.

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                        • J Jeremy Falcon

                          BAM![^]

                          Jeremy Falcon

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                          den2k88
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                          Thanks a lot. Now the quest would be finding one in Italy (before giving up and ordering from Amzon).

                          * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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                            I guess you could water down a real coffee until you come close to the taste :D Coffee is not just a stimulant, it is also a laxative. Drink in moderation :-\

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                            Kirk 10389821
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                            what are you Russian? My Russian friends call American Coffee: Coffee Juice Literally the Juice taken when you squeeze a little bit of real coffee into a cup of hot water. On the other hand, Russian Coffee, to me, was thicker than Molasses or Black Tar. And it explained all of the Potholes in russian roads. They were drinking the blacktop...

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                            • D den2k88

                              I know that programming questions are not to be published in the Lounge and this could qualify, but still... I tried the american coffee, and... I liked it. Even my girlfriend, who doesn't like (italian) coffee at all, liked it. So the question is: how do I brew it at home? In Italy we have mailny espresso machines and moka cafetieres, and I know nothing else. Thanks for your suggestions :)

                              * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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                              Kirk 10389821
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                              A couple of things. You can buy Instant Coffee, like Nescafe, and just add hot water. I know a lot of people in Europe who do this, and I do this since I am the only coffee drinker in the house, and only drink 1-2 cups a day. Second, in the states, we can buy bags of beans, and grind them fresh at the grocery store. This is my favorite. But I learned the MAGIC of the grind (Coarse to Extra Fine). The Coarser the grind, the LESS Bitterness you get (Opposite of Starbucks). I like a coarse grind! The Finer the grind, the MORE Bitterness you get (Starbucks), and the darker the coffee. Enjoy!

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                                A couple of things. You can buy Instant Coffee, like Nescafe, and just add hot water. I know a lot of people in Europe who do this, and I do this since I am the only coffee drinker in the house, and only drink 1-2 cups a day. Second, in the states, we can buy bags of beans, and grind them fresh at the grocery store. This is my favorite. But I learned the MAGIC of the grind (Coarse to Extra Fine). The Coarser the grind, the LESS Bitterness you get (Opposite of Starbucks). I like a coarse grind! The Finer the grind, the MORE Bitterness you get (Starbucks), and the darker the coffee. Enjoy!

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                                den2k88
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                                Kirk 10389821 wrote:

                                You can buy Instant Coffee, like Nescafe, and just add hot water.

                                Italian Nescafè is different from the one sold elsewhere (tried many times) and it is pure fecal matter.

                                Kirk 10389821 wrote:

                                The Coarser the grind, the LESS Bitterness you get (Opposite of Starbucks). I like a coarse grind! The Finer the grind, the MORE Bitterness you get (Starbucks), and the darker the coffee.

                                That I already knew, it is the same for Italian coffee and Espresso.

                                * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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                                • T Tim Carmichael

                                  My mother took her tea with milk and sugar.. I like it black, like my coffee. And hot... I may live in South Carolina, but I still prefer hot tea.

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                                  sgtahan
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                                  Well, here in Georgia (US) we like our tea with plenty of ice and lots of sugar. ;P Steve Tahan Appling, GA, USA

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                                    ...Robert is your father's brother.

                                    While this works, Robert is your Mother's Brother sounds better.

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                                    > While this works, Robert is your Mother's Brother sounds better. In these more equal times I also often hear "Bob's your auntie".

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                                    • D den2k88

                                      Thanks a lot. Now the quest would be finding one in Italy (before giving up and ordering from Amzon).

                                      * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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                                      Jeremy Falcon
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                                      Have faith. You can do it man!

                                      Jeremy Falcon

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                                      • K Kirk 10389821

                                        what are you Russian? My Russian friends call American Coffee: Coffee Juice Literally the Juice taken when you squeeze a little bit of real coffee into a cup of hot water. On the other hand, Russian Coffee, to me, was thicker than Molasses or Black Tar. And it explained all of the Potholes in russian roads. They were drinking the blacktop...

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                                        Dutch - most cultures drink it stronger than the Americans :) I wouldn't dare come near Russian coffee, afraid it may drink me :thumbsup:

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