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  • J Jeremy Falcon

    But that's like with anything in life. I mean we all have dating horror stories I'm sure. All I know is I took Comp Sci in high school and now look. You're stuck with me. You're welcome.

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    Kevin Marois
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    You're among the gifted few

    If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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      True, but that would be a small fraction of students out of 30+ per class. Waste of resources.

      If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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      Jeremy Falcon
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      But that's like with anything in life. I mean we all have dating horror stories I'm sure. All I know is I took Comp Sci in high school and now look. You're stuck with me. You're welcome.

      Jeremy Falcon

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        You're among the gifted few

        If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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        Jeremy Falcon
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        Do I get like a cool pen or badge for this honor? I want in on the club.

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        • J Jeremy Falcon

          Do I get like a cool pen or badge for this honor? I want in on the club.

          Jeremy Falcon

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          Kevin Marois
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          Ya get something like [this](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/\_4hy2\_h8gD9Q/TR4ZZPHfCYI/AAAAAAAAAOs/rRfdifQ\_q2c/s1600/nerd-oscars.jpg)

          If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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          • K Kevin Marois

            True, but that would be a small fraction of students out of 30+ per class. Waste of resources.

            If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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            jeron1
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            Like math, foreign language, philosophy,... classes, I rather think it's the exposure that counts. We are surrounded by computers, trying to garner more interest in what makes them tick is, at least to me, a good thing.

            "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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            • K Kevin Marois

              Ya get something like [this](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/\_4hy2\_h8gD9Q/TR4ZZPHfCYI/AAAAAAAAAOs/rRfdifQ\_q2c/s1600/nerd-oscars.jpg)

              If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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              Jeremy Falcon
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              Yay!

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              • K Kent Sharkey

                AppleInsider[^]:

                At a Monday technology summit with U.S. President Donald Trump, Apple CEO Tim Cook reportedly suggested making programming a mandatory subject in the country's schools.

                Hopefully not in Objective-C

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                Marc Clifton
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                I think we should first make speaking in complete, intelligible sentences a requirement. Something Trump obviously failed at in elementary school. X| Marc

                Latest Article - Create a Dockerized Python Fiddle Web App Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                • J Jeremy Falcon

                  I actually agree with it. I mean we teach calculus in high school and while that's not required things like geometry are. Computers are taking over the world like it or not. Schools should prepare kids for that. Does it mean our jobs will have to evolve too? Yes. But that's the way it is with every industry that's maturing. What people don't usually realize is devs got in on this at the bleeding edge of a new industry being created. One that is taking over the world. Things will change. Now if we could only teach kids finances.

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                  Nelek
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                  Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                  Now if we could only teach kids finances.

                  :doh: I would prefer to teach them ethics, moral and common sense... Kids nowadays... :sigh: :sigh:

                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                  • J Jeremy Falcon

                    Do I get like a cool pen or badge for this honor? I want in on the club.

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                    Nelek
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                    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                    Do I get like a cool pen or badge for this honor?

                    What about codeproject-mug[^] or CodeProject T-Shirt[^] :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                    • K Kent Sharkey

                      AppleInsider[^]:

                      At a Monday technology summit with U.S. President Donald Trump, Apple CEO Tim Cook reportedly suggested making programming a mandatory subject in the country's schools.

                      Hopefully not in Objective-C

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                      Coding shouldn't be mandatory, but computer usage should be. The more global issue is that the number of workers using computers but not understanding the basics of how they work and what they can and cant do. This should include the internet as well.

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                        I think we should first make speaking in complete, intelligible sentences a requirement. Something Trump obviously failed at in elementary school. X| Marc

                        Latest Article - Create a Dockerized Python Fiddle Web App Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                        He was years ahead of his time - he was speaking Twitter-speak well before there was Twitter! :laugh:

                        If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                          He was years ahead of his time - he was speaking Twitter-speak well before there was Twitter! :laugh:

                          If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                          Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                          he was speaking Twitter-speak well before there was Twitter!

                          That was the sms-speech, you know? :laugh:

                          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                            Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                            Now if we could only teach kids finances.

                            :doh: I would prefer to teach them ethics, moral and common sense... Kids nowadays... :sigh: :sigh:

                            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                            Rob Grainger
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                            Nelek wrote:

                            I would prefer to teach them ethics, moral and common sense... Kids nowadays...

                            Said every generation since Adam.

                            "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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                              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                              Do I get like a cool pen or badge for this honor?

                              What about codeproject-mug[^] or CodeProject T-Shirt[^] :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

                              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                              Jeremy Falcon
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                              I'm still holding out for the CP underwear.

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                                Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                Now if we could only teach kids finances.

                                :doh: I would prefer to teach them ethics, moral and common sense... Kids nowadays... :sigh: :sigh:

                                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                Jeremy Falcon
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                                Nelek wrote:

                                common sense

                                If it were only possible. #wishfulthinking

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                                • C cjb110

                                  Coding shouldn't be mandatory, but computer usage should be. The more global issue is that the number of workers using computers but not understanding the basics of how they work and what they can and cant do. This should include the internet as well.

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                                  Vark111
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                                  Agree 100%. And security should be like a third of the course. Viruses and how to avoid them. Malware attack vectors. Minimization and protection methods. Now that I think about it, computer classes should be a lot like STD classes: What to look for, what are the horrible, horrible things that could happen if you don't protect yourself, and how to properly protect yourself.

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