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  • D Doug Goulden

    Chris Losinger wrote: GWB's administration refuses to release 9/11 report. Are you suprised? Chris Losinger wrote: Congress is not amused. Yeah the Democrats need something to try to help their election ..... Chris Losinger wrote: Citizens wonder "WTF" ? Politics as usual ..... Chris Losinger wrote: (poster expects to be called various names for daring to look away from the bright shining light) I think your losing your sense of humor ;P:laugh: Commie :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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    Doug Goulden wrote: Are you suprised? That this administration wants to hide it? No. That an American administration wants to hide it? Yes. Doug Goulden wrote: Yeah the Democrats need something to try to help their election ..... From the article: Graham’s stand may not be terribly surprising, given that the Florida Democrat is running for president and is seeking to use the issue himself politically. But he has found a strong ally in House Intelligence Committee Chairman Goss, a staunch Republican (and former CIA officer) who in the past has consistently defended the administration’s handling of 9-11 issues and is considered especially close to Cheney. “I find this process horrendously frustrating,” Goss said in an interview. He was particularly piqued that the administration was refusing to declassify material that top intelligence officials had already testified about. “Senior intelligence officials said things in public hearings that they [administration officials] don’t want us to put in the report,” said Goss. “That’s not something I can rationally accept without further public explanation.”

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      Doug Goulden wrote: Yeah the Democrats need something to try to help their election ..... R.T.F.A. one of the two congressmen being discussed has a little "R" next to his name. Doug Goulden thusly proclaimed: I think your losing your sense of humor after two weeks of fighting with CRichEdit, I can't muster anything short of bile. -c

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      Chris Losinger wrote: R.T.F.A. I did, and aren't we a little harsh today? ;) And one has a "D" ...... To be honest and not quite so tongue in cheek, I think the politicians are trying to cover for the fact that US intelligence services undoubtedly did fail. But I think you could argue that the information coordination has gotten better, and the threats are obviously taken a lot more seriously. Chris Losinger wrote: after two weeks of fighting with CRichEdit, I can't muster anything short of bile Bad project huh? Hang in there. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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        Chris Losinger wrote: R.T.F.A. I did, and aren't we a little harsh today? ;) And one has a "D" ...... To be honest and not quite so tongue in cheek, I think the politicians are trying to cover for the fact that US intelligence services undoubtedly did fail. But I think you could argue that the information coordination has gotten better, and the threats are obviously taken a lot more seriously. Chris Losinger wrote: after two weeks of fighting with CRichEdit, I can't muster anything short of bile Bad project huh? Hang in there. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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        Doug Goulden wrote: I think the politicians are trying to cover for the fact that US intelligence services undoubtedly did fail. that was obvious to me like ten mintues after the second plane hit. anyone who hasn't come to that conclusion after a year and a half probably shouldn't be allowed to vote, drive or reproduce. Doug Goulden wrote: But I think you could argue that the information coordination has gotten better, and the threats are obviously taken a lot more seriously. no doubt on the latter. we're not allowed to know about the former. -c

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          Doug Goulden wrote: Are you suprised? That this administration wants to hide it? No. That an American administration wants to hide it? Yes. Doug Goulden wrote: Yeah the Democrats need something to try to help their election ..... From the article: Graham’s stand may not be terribly surprising, given that the Florida Democrat is running for president and is seeking to use the issue himself politically. But he has found a strong ally in House Intelligence Committee Chairman Goss, a staunch Republican (and former CIA officer) who in the past has consistently defended the administration’s handling of 9-11 issues and is considered especially close to Cheney. “I find this process horrendously frustrating,” Goss said in an interview. He was particularly piqued that the administration was refusing to declassify material that top intelligence officials had already testified about. “Senior intelligence officials said things in public hearings that they [administration officials] don’t want us to put in the report,” said Goss. “That’s not something I can rationally accept without further public explanation.”

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          yaname wrote: That this administration wants to hide it? No Do you honestly think that any other administration would have handled it differently? To many turf battles in Washington to allow anything approaching an honest self apraisal of something like this. I have no doubt that there are some people who really want to get to the bottom of the failures that day, there are to many people who stand to gain or lose politically. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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            GWB's administration refuses to release 9/11 report. Congress is not amused. Citizens wonder "WTF" ? http://www.msnbc.com/news/907379.asp?0cv=KA01[^] (poster expects to be called various names for daring to look away from the bright shining light) -c

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            Unlike all previous adminstrations which released all such documents to the public with no beuracratic delays of any kind. Yawn...

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              Unlike all previous adminstrations which released all such documents to the public with no beuracratic delays of any kind. Yawn...

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              Stan Shannon wrote: Yawn yeah, i know, we should all just bend over and accept GWBs honorable governance like good little republicans. -c

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                Stan Shannon wrote: Yawn yeah, i know, we should all just bend over and accept GWBs honorable governance like good little republicans. -c

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                I'll follow whatever honorable revolution against the government you want to lead - but I don't find interpreting business as usual politics as something invented by GWB to be an especially heroic position to take. If that's the best you've got, I'd say Bush is doing ok.

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                  Unlike all previous adminstrations which released all such documents to the public with no beuracratic delays of any kind. Yawn...

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                  Five Monkeys and a Banana, anyone?


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                    I'll follow whatever honorable revolution against the government you want to lead - but I don't find interpreting business as usual politics as something invented by GWB to be an especially heroic position to take. If that's the best you've got, I'd say Bush is doing ok.

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                    Stan Shannon wrote: but I don't find interpreting business as usual politics as something invented by GWB but i thought 9/11 changed everything. -c

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                      GWB's administration refuses to release 9/11 report. Congress is not amused. Citizens wonder "WTF" ? http://www.msnbc.com/news/907379.asp?0cv=KA01[^] (poster expects to be called various names for daring to look away from the bright shining light) -c

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                      Doesn't surprise me a bit. Isn't there stuff about the Kennedy assasination that is still top secret? ...and that was one death! :rolleyes: Mike Mullikin :beer:

                      "When I wake up in the morning, I just can't get started until I've had that first, piping hot pot of coffee. Oh, I've tried other enemas..." Emo Phillips

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                      • D Doug Goulden

                        yaname wrote: That this administration wants to hide it? No Do you honestly think that any other administration would have handled it differently? To many turf battles in Washington to allow anything approaching an honest self apraisal of something like this. I have no doubt that there are some people who really want to get to the bottom of the failures that day, there are to many people who stand to gain or lose politically. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                        This administration is widely regarded - from both sides of the aisle - as being overly secretive. The highlights in the media have been Cheney's energy task force and, to a lesser extent, their refusal to release Reagan's papers. Those of us with cynical natures assume the latter is to protect George H. W. "Hey, I was out of the loop" Bush, among others.

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